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[Nightwriter]

zazally wrote...

I would love to save my game before the omega 4 relay mission so any warnings on when to do it?

I save right before I access the galaxy map after the entire crew has been abducted and you're about to go rescue them.

[zazally]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

zazally wrote...

I would love to save my game before the omega 4 relay mission so any warnings on when to do it?

Well the obvious answer to that is after the crew is abducted

I know but I would love to save it even earlier I am a bit worried that when I work on peoples loyalty missions the rescue mission cutscene might start

[Amethyst Deceiver]

the final rescue mission will never start if you ignore the reaper IFF level.



save that for the very last. do everyone's loyalty missions before you even go to the reaper ship

[Rocket Weazle]

zazally wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

zazally wrote...

I would love to save my game before the omega 4 relay mission so any warnings on when to do it?

Well the obvious answer to that is after the crew is abducted

I know but I would love to save it even earlier I am a bit worried that when I work on peoples loyalty missions the rescue mission cutscene might start

Just before the reaper IFF mission.

[Vemarkis]

I simply avoided the crew abduction by not going anywhere near the galaxy map after I got legion, I simply went to talk to Legion and then done the loyalty mission, crew abduction happened after that. Had all squaddies loyal before that .

[Skilled Seeker]

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

Rocket Weazle wrote...
end squad: anyone loyal won't die so doesn't matter who.

this is false.

if you bring grunt and zaeed with you, the defenders will be too weak and either mordin, tali or jack will die, regardless of loyalty

This is also wrong. You can bring Zaeed and Grunt with you to the final boss but be sure to send Mordin back with the crew. If they are all  loyal no one will die.

[Amethyst Deceiver]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

Rocket Weazle wrote...
end squad: anyone loyal won't die so doesn't matter who.

this is false.

if you bring grunt and zaeed with you, the defenders will be too weak and either mordin, tali or jack will die, regardless of loyalty

This is also wrong. You can bring Zaeed and Grunt with you to the final boss but be sure to send Mordin back with the crew. If they are all  loyal no one will die.

wrong. out of the top 3 defenders you need to have at least 2 defending, or else any one of the bottom 3 squishies can randomly die.

this has been proven already

Modifié par Amethyst Deceiver, 13 avril 2010 - 12:56 .

[Skilled Seeker]

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

Rocket Weazle wrote...
end squad: anyone loyal won't die so doesn't matter who.

this is false.

if you bring grunt and zaeed with you, the defenders will be too weak and either mordin, tali or jack will die, regardless of loyalty

This is also wrong. You can bring Zaeed and Grunt with you to the final boss but be sure to send Mordin back with the crew. If they are all  loyal no one will die.

wrong. out of the top 3 defenders you need to have at least 2 defending, or else any one of the bottom 3 squishies can randomly die.

this has been proven already

Oh please shut up. I have taken Zaeed and Grunt with me to the final boss while sending Mordin back and I am telling you no one died.

[Amethyst Deceiver]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

Rocket Weazle wrote...
end squad: anyone loyal won't die so doesn't matter who.

this is false.

if you bring grunt and zaeed with you, the defenders will be too weak and either mordin, tali or jack will die, regardless of loyalty

This is also wrong. You can bring Zaeed and Grunt with you to the final boss but be sure to send Mordin back with the crew. If they are all  loyal no one will die.

wrong. out of the top 3 defenders you need to have at least 2 defending, or else any one of the bottom 3 squishies can randomly die.

this has been proven already

Oh please shut up. I have taken Zaeed and Grunt with me to the final boss while sending Mordin back and I am telling you no one died.

the definition of RANDOM means it doesnt happen every single time. just because you managed to get lucky doesnt mean sh*t

[Skilled Seeker]

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

Rocket Weazle wrote...
end squad: anyone loyal won't die so doesn't matter who.

this is false.

if you bring grunt and zaeed with you, the defenders will be too weak and either mordin, tali or jack will die, regardless of loyalty

This is also wrong. You can bring Zaeed and Grunt with you to the final boss but be sure to send Mordin back with the crew. If they are all  loyal no one will die.

wrong. out of the top 3 defenders you need to have at least 2 defending, or else any one of the bottom 3 squishies can randomly die.

this has been proven already

Oh please shut up. I have taken Zaeed and Grunt with me to the final boss while sending Mordin back and I am telling you no one died.

the definition of RANDOM means it doesnt happen every single time. just because you managed to get lucky doesnt mean sh*t

No idiot it isn't random its because the entire crew was loyal and the weakest member was not present. The hold the line scrore is therefore high enough for everyone to survive. I have repeated this multiple times to be sure so don't argue with me.

[Amethyst Deceiver]

ive had jack randomly die 3 out 5 times when 2 of the 3 defenders were not there

[Skilled Seeker]

Furthermore once I had just Grunt out of the top 3 defending (Garrus + Mordin came with me and Zaeed died) and Miranda was disloyal and still no one died. So as long as you have 1 loyal hold the line member present and Mordin somewhere else then you will be fine.

[Amethyst Deceiver]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Furthermore once I had just Grunt out of the top 3 defending (Garrus + Mordin came with me and Zaeed died) and Miranda was disloyal and still no one died. So as long as you have 1 loyal hold the line member present and Mordin somewhere else then you will be fine.

please stop talking out of your ass. just because you have had luck with certain scenarios doesnt make it a fact.

what you consider "you will be fine", others have had casualties with the same scenario.

i' ve completed endgame at least 50+ times with various variables, enough to know whats bull**** and what isnt

Modifié par Amethyst Deceiver, 13 avril 2010 - 01:08 .

[Skilled Seeker]

Its even easier for everyone to survive now as Kasumi has been added. Seriously if you manage to get someone killed on the hold the line segment you fail. Horribly.

[Amethyst Deceiver]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Its even easier for everyone to survive now as Kasumi has been added. Seriously if you manage to get someone killed on the hold the line segment you fail. Horribly.

agreed. but you still have your facts wrong. "probability" and "possibility" are 2 different things

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

but you still have your facts wrong. "probability" and "possibility" are 2 different things

QFT, Skilled your talking out your backside with that 1 loyal everyone else survives BS that wouldn't work in every single instance.

[Daforth]

My perfect ending setup: all loyal, all upgrade installed (these two is mandatory)

Act 1:
- Specialist - Tali or Legion, or Kasumi (mostly Tali as Legion is more useful in my squad, depending on played class, same applies for Kasumi)
- Fire team leader: Garrus (can be Miranda too, but first I hate her, second she can be more useful in my squad)
- Squad: depends on played class, does not really matter (as both the specialist and fire team leader is good to the task and everyone is loyal, take whoever is fit your playstyle)

Act2:
- Barrier: Samara (Jack also good, but it is my personal preference, if you want to use Samara for fight, take Jack as barrier holder, Miranda is a big no, don't be tempted by her overconfident bull****)
- Fire team leader: Garrus (same as before regarding Miranda)
- Escort: Mordin (or Tali or Jack, but I suggest Mordin, somehow he has the highest probability for going down during HTL)
- Squad: same as before, taking into consideration that husks and scions will be involved

Act3 (Hold the line):
- Leave Grunt, Zaeed and Garrus for defense
- Take whoever is fit to your playstyle, does not really matter as everyone is loyal, Mordin is sent back and the three major HTL score character is in the defense, none will die

Follow this and you will not left anyone behind

Modifié par Daforth, 13 avril 2010 - 01:40 .

[ResidentNoob]

Perfect ending setup:

-Gain loyalty of ALL squadmates.
-Buy ship armour upgrade from Jacob, ship shields upgrade from Tali, and
ship weapons upgrade from Garrus.

Act 1: Infiltration
-Tech specialist: Tali/Legion/Kasumi
-Secondary team leader: Garrus/Jacob/Miranda

Act 2: The Long Walk
-Biotic Barrier: Jack/Samara/Morinth
-Secondary team leader: Garrus/Jacob/Miranda
-Escort the crew: Any loyal squadmate.

Final act:
-Leave Garrus, Grunt and Zaeed to hold the line
-Teammates taken to fight final boss must be loyal

Modifié par ResidentNoob, 13 avril 2010 - 02:07 .

[Draguling]

Zaeed also works excellent for secondary team.







So who else thought Thane was right for the infiltration job?..

[Beriks]

Well my first playthrough as a Vanguard I chose Grunt for the escort, and hadn't DL'ed Zaeed or Kasumi, I brought Tali and Miranda along with me.

None of the HTL members died, but since I hadn't been able to calm down Jack and Miranda, Miranda died, so could be why none of the HTL died, but Donno. Just finished with an engineer, and got averyone through.

This was my setup

After collecting the IFF I did Legions Loyalty quest. I actually forgot to wake him the first time, so had to back track because the abduction scene appeared (first time i hit the Galaxy Map), and while i did Legions loyalty quest my crew got juiced.

But after a quick reload:

All Squaddies recruited (including Zaeed and Kasumi). All loyal quests done and all ship upgrades bought.

Vent: Legion
Fire team: Garrus
Squad: Me(Engineer) Miranda and Mordin (Great team for taking down Collectors btw)


Escort: Jack
Diversion: Garrus
Biotic: Samara
Squad: the same as above

And this time I got the perfect ending

Modifié par Beriks, 19 avril 2010 - 10:48 .