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Why did the Collectors release the Omega plague?


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And turians evolved from what? Birds? Salarians from salamanders? Krogans from.... eh... dinosaurs?



Now we've got CRAZY AVIAN POWER and CRAZY SALAMANDER POWER and best of all CRAZY DINOSAUR POWER!!



Rawr.

#52
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Nightwriter wrote...

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Basically that at the end of the horrible war, humans will do the last minute thing that no Alien is ever prepared for, and the human heroes will say the catchphrase and the Aliens both ally will be like "IT IS IMPOSSIBLE", and then the bad aliens die in ahuge explosion. See: Every populist scifi action anything ever made.


Um... CRAZY MONKEY POWER ftw?


Pretty much.

You don't have to rely on planning or science when you have CRAZY MONKEY POWER, and even super anal science fantasy haters like Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven and Dean Ing used it like a rented mule. Hell, Niven owes his entire career to it.

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Nightwriter wrote...

And turians evolved from what? Birds? Salarians from salamanders? Krogans from.... eh... dinosaurs?

Now we've got CRAZY AVIAN POWER and CRAZY SALAMANDER POWER and best of all CRAZY DINOSAUR POWER!!

Rawr.


No we don't. Only humans have it.

Ever.

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Shop that with a Mac delivered computer virus in one hand, and laser pistol in the the other and that's pretty much it.

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Xaijin wrote...

No we don't. Only humans have it.

Ever.


You humans are all racist.

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"Tell that to the Covenant"

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@ JKoopman: They're combat barks, so they're not part of an actual conversation. I've seen people mentioning they heard him saying them, and people saying that they've never heard any of them (I think I've heard at least one, but my last PT was Insanity, so I wasn't paying very much attention to what he was saying--but I had a few 'huh, that doesn't sound familiar' moments). I think they're just really rare in his rotation? He does seem to spam the basic 'assuming direct control'/'this hurts you' a loooot. Nobody on the wikia is asking about it, and they're usually a curious bunch. Hm. Might have to ask about the trigger for it myself (I'd heard that it's only in the final battle against the baby Reaper, I tend to kill it too fast for more than a wave of Collectors to shop up).

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sniper1250 wrote...

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Yeah, it kind of bugs me that humans are the HAX race after being on the
galactic scene for less than fiftty years.


If a game was about a galaxy that had aliens in it, and humans weren't a prominent or powerful race and could never in anyway compare to the powers that be, and you had to play as a human, would you honestly be able to say you would buy and play that? People play games to be bullies, not to be pushed around by them.


I'd buy and play that. I don't always want to play the mighty hero, being a normal person against impossible odds has its appeal too. If I can play Call of Cthulhu I can play anything.

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No one likes it when the Evil Aliens with all the giant guns win (like they should). Doesn't sell tickets.

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enormousmoonboots wrote...

@ JKoopman: They're combat barks, so they're not part of an actual conversation. I've seen people mentioning they heard him saying them, and people saying that they've never heard any of them (I think I've heard at least one, but my last PT was Insanity, so I wasn't paying very much attention to what he was saying--but I had a few 'huh, that doesn't sound familiar' moments). I think they're just really rare in his rotation? He does seem to spam the basic 'assuming direct control'/'this hurts you' a loooot. Nobody on the wikia is asking about it, and they're usually a curious bunch. Hm. Might have to ask about the trigger for it myself (I'd heard that it's only in the final battle against the baby Reaper, I tend to kill it too fast for more than a wave of Collectors to shop up).


I've heard the turian one, what with not ever not having Garrus in tow.

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Thats why we have Galactic Civilization and Space Empires. To put those filthy backwards humans into their place!

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Xaijin wrote...

No one likes it when the Evil Aliens with all the giant guns win (like they should). Doesn't sell tickets.


Now I'm no one:crying:

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Massadonious1 wrote...

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... And as Massadonious showed our monkey ancestor to the Collector General, the Collector General said unto him...

SO GLORIOUS AND MAGNIFICENT A SPECIES WE HAVE
NEVER SEEN.

SUCH BEAUTY AND ELEGANCE HAS NEVER BEFORE
BEEN IMAGINED IN THE GREATEST OF COLLECTOR
DREAMS.

SURELY THEIR GENETIC POTENTIAL IS LIMITLESS.

FOOLISH MORTAL, WE MUST HAVE THESE... THESE
HUMANS WHICH CAME FROM THE GREAT MONKEY
FOR OUR OWN, FOR THEY ARE SURELY THE BEST
AND MOST INTELLIGENT THE GALAXY HAS TO
OFFER.

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Which potentially might be the actual outline for Me2.

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Nightwriter wrote...

Hey, this may be a stupid question, but I never really understood the purpose behind the plague the Collectors released on Omega. Why did they do that? Can anyone tell me?

I thought the Collectors' whole goal was to find a suitable race for Reaper reproduction and build a new one. Well, they'd already found humans suitable for the task and were abducting us for their purposes.

So why release this huge experimental plague on a bunch of non-humans to test genetic variances?

Maybe they thought it would help with retaking the galaxy, afterall the other races have been warned about the Reapers now.  Even with the Turian Councilor being a tool of the Shadow Broker. 
;)

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Nightwriter wrote...

And turians evolved from what? Birds? Salarians from salamanders? Krogans from.... eh... dinosaurs?

Now we've got CRAZY AVIAN POWER and CRAZY SALAMANDER POWER and best of all CRAZY DINOSAUR POWER!!

Rawr.

Birds evolved from Dinosaurs. :P

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Jax Sparrow wrote...
Maybe they thought it would help with retaking the galaxy, afterall the other races have been warned about the Reapers now.  Even with the Turian Councilor being a tool of the Shadow Broker. 
;)


Maybe he is the Shadow Broker :bandit: .

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Jax Sparrow wrote...
Birds evolved from Dinosaurs. :P


We all evolved from jellyfishes... OMG! The Hanar! They're the mind behind the Reapers! The most ancient species in the Galaxy! :o

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Kenrae wrote...

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I'd buy and play that. I don't always want to play the mighty hero, being a normal person against impossible odds has its appeal too. If I can play Call of Cthulhu I can play anything.


I've heard of Call of Cthulhu but I've never played it. If you are human and never actually succed in your bigger tasks because of that fact, then yes that's what I meant and you are one of a very small group of people that are willing to play like that. I would also be willing to play such a scenerio, but only if it was decently written.
But for the most part, yes humans and by extension the player character in this situation, need to be able to rise above events and succed or the game isn't all that entertaining. Failure beyond your control happens enough in real life and is a major reason why people like video games as an escape so much.

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here is a summary of the collector's plans with the plague.

1: break fans.

2: everyone choke and die

3: ???

4: PROFIT!

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Supposedly the ultimate goal of the plague was to kill all the aliens, and leave humans alive so that the Collectors could grab the substantial human population in Omega.



This is such a stupid plan I have to imagine a Vorcha came up with it and told Harbinger while he was drunk on fermented human goo.

It assumes that:

- Omega has no defences (it's a criminal den in an asteroid field, try and argue that it doesn't. TRY)

- The humans can't operate the defences (because there totally aren't any humans in merc bands or anything there)

- The defences aren't automated

- The Collector's cigar ship could withstand these defences (piddly Horizon guns make it run away)




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It was because humans had genetic maluebility rather than diversity.

If it was about diversity Asari would win hands down seeing as how actually reproducing with their own species is considered shameful.

I would love smoking hot Asari husks... Did I just say that?

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Rocket Weazle wrote...

It was because humans had genetic maluebility rather than diversity.
If it was about diversity Asari would win hands down seeing as how actually reproducing with their own species is considered shameful.
I would love smoking hot Asari husks... Did I just say that?


Reliance on other species to reproduce shows genetic weakness.

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The Angry One wrote...

Rocket Weazle wrote...

It was because humans had genetic maluebility rather than diversity.
If it was about diversity Asari would win hands down seeing as how actually reproducing with their own species is considered shameful.
I would love smoking hot Asari husks... Did I just say that?


Reliance on other species to reproduce shows genetic weakness.

It's not like they can't reproduce amongst themselves, Isn't it just an Asari myth that you're hurting the gene pool if your have pureblood children, but it isn't really seeing as both parents could have been fatherd by seperate species... Aw heck I don't know anything about genetics so I'm not gonna pretend.