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The following is an opinion, an observation over many months now of DA:O replay after replay. Analyzation of player base reactions and character support and an overall assumption, on my part, on plans as they apply to the future of the DA IP and how we, as fans screwed up majorly in most of our assumptions, this focuses on Morrigan specifically as the focus of the thread, this is not to say Morrigan is the only place we made bad choices or choices that really, in all logic made no sense, but just a single area of focus to centralize my theorycrafting around in regards to DA2 and the future of DA IP offerings, most especially ones that somehow reintroduce Morrigan into the plotline somehow (which quite a large chunk of the fanbase hopes for.)
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Morrigan, the girl you love to hate but love anyways:

So lets consider Morrigan stock game, mods with new headmorphs, however you present her shes the games femme fatale. The cold glares, the icy personality, the intellect, the I'm definitely better than you attitude (and she is better than you since even in the stock game shes got a custom torso model to make her all runway modelesque while the base female model is quite a bit less feminine and blockier) and I know it....and all that.

Shes the bad girl, and of course everyone immediately fell in love. OMG Morrigan you had my baby...I'll find you and...build a little house with a white picket fence around it for us to raise our strange abomination old god-child together!

In a word, we got trapped by Morrigan's depth of character and her game given looks (thank you Dragon Age Redesigned and or Improved Atmosphere) and her snarky, ****y, but undeniable charm.

Lets look at things logically for a moment, though really there are so many points of failed logic in the progression of the DA:O story that this is just as much our fault as it is the developers...but really its the players that are to blame here.

When you first meet Morrigan shes arrogant to the point of ridiculous, but your inner brain goes "oh this is a hot one" and you pick all the path of least resistance responses, of course there are others who probably picked the paths of more resistance but the story is going to take you to Flemeth's hut one way or another, so it really doesn't matter if your cerebro-phallic connection kicked in on first meeting.

We then meet Flemeth, whos own legend is quite grim in and of itself, but, for some reason Flemeth has seen fit to ward and guard the Grey Warden treaties, for no stated reason other than "Why not" but, there are deeper reasons there, its hardly the job of an entity/person like Flemeth to wander around collecting old documents, she specifically took these treaties and warded them against the day she saw in the future which was to be your arrival on the scene prior to the Blight. So we establish here that Flemeth knew of the coming Blight, Flemeth knew it would be you to defeat it, Flemeth also knew to send Morrigan with you, for her ultimate purpose, which is, truly, the conception of the old god-child between the Grey Warden (or A Grey Warden) and Morrigan.

Now along the way we're given conciliatory gifts, ways to soften Morrigan, humanize her, make her love us, and make her easier to love, but, thats where we all went wrong....Morrigan wasn't meant to be loved. Morrigan coming right out of the gate is doing things that will, in general, annoy and frustrate most players who tend to approach new fantasy RPGs and play more like paladins than anything else, out of general habit. She disapproves of you making the "right" decisions, shes constantly insulting and needling more likeable characters such as Leiliana and Alistair, she sneers at other peoples beliefs openly, treating people that believe differently than she as idiots...she is, in a word, not a very likeable person at all...except of course, shes got that hard to get quality, and the sharp wit which keeps drawing players towards her, regardless of her being designed to be hard to like.


So about halfway through the game or whenever you complete the tower, you come across the Black Grimoire, which leads you to the loyalty quest for Morrigan, which is, tada....please go kill my mother because otherwise she will eventually seek me out and possess me.

Now by this time most of us have dumbly fallen into the trap....though really given the choices of gifts she responds to, if you've ever had to deal with a gold digger you should have taken a warning right there, but I digress, as stated, by this time we have fallen into the trap...we LIKE/LOVE Morrigan..she is our friend, Flemeth is just this old witch who possesses the bodies of nubile, intelligent, powerful young women to extend her own life....that....for some reason never did us any harm, warded the Grey Warden Treaties so they would be intact to give them to you as she forsaw in her visions, ensured we were rescued from overwhelming odds at the Tower of Ishal, healed our rather bad wounds and, set us on the path to stopping the Blight.

Err...now wait a minute, why are we murdering Flemeth? Oh yes, cerebro-phallic overload, Flemeth has done us no wrong, but the inferred history is that she is a monster, Morrigan on the other hand is our friend and demonstrates her rather monsterous personallity on a daily basis and we just giggle, oh that Morrigan shes so hard to please.

So we by default, sentence Flemeth to death in defense of our "friend/love interest" Morrigan, when as we all know, Morrigan has no intent on remaining our friend or love interest at all, she got what she wanted the night before the final battle...and she left.

But is it what she wanted? Or was it something Flemeth wanted, which she realized the power of herself, and was willing to take Flemeth out of the equation to possess it for herself?

We must assume that the Flemeth entity has seen quite a bit into the future, the guarding of the treaties, knowing the fate of Ser Jory, saving the hero and Alistair from the fall of Ostagar, the conception of the child, as Morrigan indicates in conversation the night before the battle, was Flemeths idea and Morrigan's role, all along, as your companion.

Now while I am sure some spared Flemeth and lied to Morrigan, most killed Flemeth out of reflex. And fell in "love" or became close friends with Morrigan in the process.Morrigan then takes our child or a child, out of the bargain, which becomes essentially the container or avatar of the mind of an old god.

The very same old gods that the Darkspawn spend hundreds of years underground digging and searching for.

So with that in mind, and keeping in mind that a lot of the things we are "told" in DA:O by various characters are, well, not exactly 100% true, we as players, instinctively made choices that were based on Pavlovian reactivity. And in doing so may have, in essence fallen into the trap which brings a whole new kind of threat to Thedas, one that perhaps Flemeth engineered in her own interests, but Morrigan, sensing the plan behind it all, decided to take to take it for herself..and thus, uses the legends of Flemeth's longevity process to incite the player to protect her.

But no, that is not what you are truly doing, you are being used as a pawn, just as you were used as a sperm donor (or manipulated into allowing Alistair to be used as one) to create the recepticle for the Old God, you were used as a pawn between Flemeth and Morrigan to decide who would ultimately control that Old God.

One can only speculate what the intentions would have been, perhaps Flemeth would have merged with the offspring, become a part of the Old God to increase her own power, perhaps Morrigan's intents are no less nefarious...regardless of either, we all set up the premise of DA2 without even batting an eye....woohoo lets do the horizontal boogie with Morrigan! And yes...we all did it, at least once....even lady friends of mine were terribly dissapointed Morrigan was not an option for them as a love interest...so the trap works not only on the cerebro-phallic connection in the minds of men alone, but also holds an attraction for women as well.

And in the end, none of it matters, the whole "I will find you Morrigan" at the gates, should you not take her with you to the Archdemon is immaterial....Morrigan doesn't intend to be found, a house with a picket fence and a child that could command the armies of the darkspawn sitting around making macaroni sculptures while the Grey Warden daddy whiled away his days in pleasant obscurity with his loving witch wife were never her intentions at all.

The child was the intention all along, the child is the reason there will be another threat within the "lifetime" of our Grey Warden (the ones that chose the ritual that is) and the child will be the one unalterable element of the DA2 plotline....regardless of what you did, Morrigan will have had this child. Ultimate Sacrifice wardens get epilogue info on Morrigan that she'd become an influential advisor to the Imperial Court in Orlais.....again a powerful position in the hands of a woman with a secret agenda to possess the mind of an old god and perhaps still able to find a way to achieve such from said position by using the Grey of Orlais to hunt in the deep roads for another buried old god, perhaps even cutting deals with the Architect to achieve such..

So for those of you that live by the words "I will find you Morrigan, I swear it.".....be careful what you wish for, you are most definitely going to get it....its just not going to be the reunion you hoped for.

The Old God-Child represents a new threat, something differerent than the Blights, a Thedas equivalent of an anti-christ figure which could lead and control the darkspawn and gain power in Thedas in ways that an archdemon/old god in the traditional "Blight" scenario never could.

So to me, the immutable plot element of DA2 is the Old God-Child. And the evidence is clear, for all our heroic might, for all the words spoken, we were a tool in the hands of Flemeth and/or Morrigan, to create this scenario.

Just some late past the games release thoughts...that peer into the unknown future where there could, potentially, be a DA2. (that isn't pawned off on Obsidian Entertainment, making it immediately suck lemons).

Anyways...as stated, these are my opinions, they are not required to be right for anyone but me. And this is not designed to say "Morrigan is stupid and people that like her are dumb"....thats hardly the case. Morrigan is a brilliant and vibrant character who has one of the best female VO workers at BioWare playing her part, and it was easy to fall into her web.

And in doing so....doomed Thedas to a dark age unlike any Blight that has ever befallen the world.

Damn you Morrigan. Damn you.

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Modifié par SLPr0, 13 avril 2010 - 05:49 .


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I think your theory leaves out *a lot* of rp based things, especially with female characters. It also doesn't take into account that by the end of the game, Morrigan actually appears to care about her lover/friend and doesn't want harm to come to them. *shrugs* While I do think the DR and child will be seen again, from my canon playthrough, it didn't end up that way through being tricked and drawn into a web.

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I play mostly female characters (and am female IRL), so my cerebo-phallic connection is already broken. :) And yet my female PCs come to befriend and trust Morrigan. For sure, she is not telling you the whole story, but no matter what you do, you're going to be someone's pawn. Flemeth's or Morrigan's, take your pick. It's like you tell Flemeth when you confront her: "Should I dance to your tune instead?"

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I don't care what you say, Mo is still my homegirl. She called me friend and sister :(

She broke my M!Mahariel's heart, though.



Thoughtful post, btw!

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You assume that 1. The player is male, and straight (Cerebro-Phallic, just learned the word or what? I call it horny) 2. Morrigan tries to seduce you/become your friend from the beginning (and it isn't the other way round) 3. That she never cares about the warden 4. That you didn't spare Loghain (everybody always forgets the Loghain/Morrigan sex :sadface: ).



Otherwise, I'll leave you to your theories.

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It's not like anyone actually thinks Flemeth is really dead. Even the codex isn't convinced. You basically just bought Morrigan some time to do whatever she had planned without her mother being able to interfere.

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I knew she was up to no good - I just didn't want me or Alistair to die. Let someone else deal with her demon spawn

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All things I had considered as plausible some time ago despite how much I liked her in my first and only playthrough. So no Flemeth, no child, and no more warden in my playthrough. If they want it to be a round-about thing with someone who wasn't controlled by me, then thats OK if this plays out that way, but it wouldn't have been due to my actions.



On my next playthrough I'll allow things to run this course just for poops and guffaws.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

You assume that 1. The player is male, and straight-

Uh.. no...no I think you missed the point entirely.

(Cerebro-Phallic, just learned the word or what? I call it horny)

Cerebro-Phallic is not even a word, its a word I made up that indicates "thinking with your genitals". And actually in the proper latin genera is probably horribly incorrect at that. Its not about "being horny" its about a sexually motivated decision making process or process of activities which are spurred from a sexual motivation.

2. Morrigan tries to seduce you/become your friend from the beginning (and it isn't the other way round)

As stated, the trap is there, yes we try to seduce her/become her friend because the character is brilliantly balanced to push us towards that behavior, its Pavlovian as I stated. So for all the accuracy of the statement that we are the ones attempting the seduction, the written environment and developement of the character of Morrigan is designed to illicit that response in the first place...so you are, in fact, seduced into seducing her.

3. That she never cares about the warden

I never inferred that she didn't "care" about the Warden, all indications are, in final dialogs with her that there is a part of Morrigan which regrets how things have to be....so she does care, but her agenda, and her focus, which is power, and in this case perhaps ultimate power, takes precedence over her relationship with the Warden, be it love or friendship.

4. That you didn't spare Loghain (everybody always forgets the Loghain/Morrigan sex :sadface: ).

I only spared Loghain once, losing Alistair was too high a price to pay to do it again, regardless I used him as the donor that time, it makes very little difference who the donor is, we still played right into the trap. Be it a male Warden, Alistair or Loghain...the child is the goal...and given her willingness to have it with any of the three regardless of her relationship with the Warden (I mean if shes your friend and you're a female Warden, why's she in such a hurry to hop in bed with your potential LI Alistair, I mean you get a thin explanation that Riordan has been tainted for "too long" and thus hes not qualified...frankly I think thats bunk). So the Loghain option is immaterial. The goal is the child, and she'll have it one way or another.

Otherwise, I'll leave you to your theories.


Feel free? Thank you? I'm not sure how to respond to that.

Modifié par SLPr0, 13 avril 2010 - 05:46 .


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SLPr0 wrote...
Cerebro-Phallic is not even a word, its a word I made up that indicates "thinking with your genitals". And actually in the proper latin genera is probably horribly incorrect at that. Its not about "being horny" its about a sexually motivated decision making process or process of activities which are spurred from a sexual motivation.

I'm not a native, so I assumed it was a word or expression, and the rest is semantics. I meant it as a sexually motivated decision, thinking with the other head or whatever you want to call it. If you are not sexually attracted to her (or women at all), this point falls flat.

As stated, the trap is there, yes we try to seduce her/become her friend because the character is brilliantly balanced to push us towards that behavior, its Pavlovian as I stated. So for all the accuracy of the statement that we are the ones attempting the seduction, the written environment and developement of the character of Morrigan is designed to illicit that response in the first place...so you are, in fact, seduced into seducing her.

What I meant is that she does not necessarily do that on purpose, as you imply with the trap thing, and how you react to that is personal. Many simply dislike her for it. She is there, and the reason she doesn't try to seduce you/Alastair/Loghain is that she assumed there would be more fresh male GW at the final battle than you and Alastair/Loghain.

I never inferred that she didn't "care" about the Warden, all indications are, in final dialogs with her that there is a part of Morrigan which regrets how things have to be....so she does care, but her agenda, and her focus, which is power, and in this case perhaps ultimate power, takes precedence over her relationship with the Warden, be it love or friendship.

And this is assuming that she plans to become powerful with the help of the child. When I read it I got the feeling that it was implied that she did not care for the warden.

I only spared Loghain once, losing Alistair was too high a price to pay to do it again, regardless I used him as the donor that time, it makes very little difference who the donor is, we still played right into the trap. Be it a male Warden, Alistair or Loghain...the child is the goal...and given her willingness to have it with any of the three regardless of her relationship with the Warden (I mean if shes your friend and you're a female Warden, why's she in such a hurry to hop in bed with your potential LI Alistair, I mean you get a thin explanation that Riordan has been tainted for "too long" and thus hes not qualified...frankly I think thats bunk). So the Loghain option is immaterial. The goal is the child, and she'll have it one way or another.

The last point was a joke.

Feel free? Thank you? I'm not sure how to respond to that.

No need to respond. I just wrote that as to make it clear that I'm not writing in some kind of fanboy rage.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 13 avril 2010 - 06:08 .


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Cool story bro.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

It's not like anyone actually thinks Flemeth is really dead. Even the codex isn't convinced. You basically just bought Morrigan some time to do whatever she had planned without her mother being able to interfere.


You're right.  If I remember correctly, even Morrigan says that this will only buy some time.  Morrigan's conversation after killing Flemeth led me to believe that even though she was "killed", she's not really gone. 

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SLPr0 wrote...

Cerebro-Phallic is not even a word, its a word I made up that indicates "thinking with your genitals". And actually in the proper latin genera is probably horribly incorrect at that. Its not about "being horny" its about a sexually motivated decision making process or process of activities which are spurred from a sexual motivation.

And women are what... thinking with your genitals??

As stated, the trap is there, yes we try to seduce her/become her friend because the character is brilliantly balanced to push us towards that behavior, its Pavlovian as I stated.

Actually it seems to me that Morrigan is written to annoy and/or repulse the PC, considering her reactions to what are likely your early quests, the Circle Tower and Redcliffe.  This is even acknowledged in what she says to you when you earn her trust, i.e. that she expected you to cast her out due to her way with people.

I never inferred that she didn't "care" about the Warden, all indications are, in final dialogs with her that there is a part of Morrigan which regrets how things have to be....so she does care, but her agenda, and her focus, which is power, and in this case perhaps ultimate power, takes precedence over her relationship with the Warden, be it love or friendship.

As I see it, she is being straight with you that she wants freedom (and yes that implies power, I don't know why it should imply "ultimate" power, however- Morrigan's impulse is survival, not world domination) and the fact that it will also save your life is something she sees as a bargaining chip at first.  However, as her care for the Warden increases, her reluctance to do the DR also seems to increase, and the fact that it will save your life seems more important.  By the end, I believe (based in large part on the Bioware blog comic, but also on comments she makes during the romance) that Morrigan sees what she is doing not only as necessary for herself, but as a good thing she can do for you.

(I mean if shes your friend and you're a female Warden, why's she in such a hurry to hop in bed with your potential LI Alistair, I mean you get a thin explanation that Riordan has been tainted for "too long" and thus hes not qualified...frankly I think thats bunk). So the Loghain option is immaterial. The goal is the child, and she'll have it one way or another.

Of course her goal is the child.  Is this somehow disputed?  As for "being in a hurry," as you find out with the Morrigan romance, she doesn't share.  As you say (seemingly contradicting yourself), her goal is the child, not a kinky one-off with her best friend's man.

Modifié par Addai67, 13 avril 2010 - 06:40 .


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Interesting thread.

I am one of those who cannot stand Morrigan. I think it's fairly clear throughout that (whatever she may come to feel for the Warden, be it friend or lover, this is secondary to her own considerations) first and foremost she is self-centred (as you rightly point out the gifts she likes are clues to this, generally being to satisfy her own vanity), and she cleverly manipulates those around her to her own ends.

Not everyone, male or female, will fall for that sort of person be it in real life or a game. I have not been taken in by her, being that I find that sort of thing a complete turn-off regardless of looks and a nice body, although will sometimes play along with her game (from an rp perspective) to see where that game leads. And it is an interesting game she's playing.

Edit to add: If people are falling into a Morrigan-trap, they probably only have themselves to blame ^_^

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It's probably true that a lot of people who romanced Morrigan were metagaming to some extent, as she doesn't lend herself to romance easily. Still, I let her have the demon baby because I agreed with her: some things need preserving.

Provided the baby isn't born corrupt and tainted, which Morrigan assures us it won't be (and it makes sense that it wouldn't be, otherwise what would be the point?), then the Dark Ritual saves the soul of one of the most ancient and intelligent entities in Thedas. If there's even a chance of talking to an uncorrupted Old God, we should jump at the chance.

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I have a quick question, as someone who chose morrigans DR and tried to break her down the whole game on both of my play throughs. Why does she tell you about the ritual at all? I know with all play throughs she offers it to everyone, but every play through is different so circumstances do take an effect as to why.



I would love to believe that at the end of the game the whole "regret felt from ring" epilog might be an indication of my future encounter being a plesent one, but I don't expect a townhouse and a child.



Ultimatly i just want to know what cynical people think, and by that i mean more cynical then I anyhow. I don't see much good coming from the Old God Child and think its definitly going to be a protagonist with/without morrigan. However, In my play throughs she seemed quite willing to sex without having a reason, why did she tell me her plans if could have just simply not said anything and it and disappeared. I would not have been any the wiser and probly think "hey at least i got one more go out of it ha". I can only assume this was just to enrich the plot hook for future games as theres no real reason to tell the GW.

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Theory is a bit flawed on many levels, but regardless, it is just a theory.

Three of my characters did not trust morrigan, but still befriended her. Those you don't trust as much in cases like that, you tend to keep closer. Because doing otherwise, leaves you open to betrayal, at least that way you expect it.

While 2 of my characters, had hard time accepting that she was so uncaring.

Sort of reminded me of Viconia in Baldur's Gate, one hell of a barbbed tongue etc... but was nothing more than a mask in the end.

We all metagame to an extent in games, it's a fact and denying such proves it even more.

Morrigan is populare because there is an appeal towards women like that, you just don't know what she's up to, so it draws you in.  Makes you want to dig deeper to figure it out, add on top of that her appearance, and the legend behidn flemeth, and it justifies why she looks that way.

As far as I see it, her atitude and looks, fit perfectly, and is more than likely flemeth herself in disguise, and the old lady her actual child. Yes powerful, but I'd be willing to be it was Morrigan herself that flew in and swooped you off, and pretty much her that's been acting and making you eat out of her palm from the very beginning. So it is expected that you would "Metagame her" because I think it is expected and wanted... because it is more than likely the canon story.  And killing flemeth was treated as a test, to see how far you would go, and if you believed her so deeply.

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Ultimatly i just want to know what cynical people think, and by that i mean more cynical then I anyhow. I don't see much good coming from the Old God Child and think its definitly going to be a protagonist with/without morrigan. However, In my play throughs she seemed quite willing to sex without having a reason, why did she tell me her plans if could have just simply not said anything and it and disappeared. I would not have been any the wiser and probly think "hey at least i got one more go out of it ha". I can only assume this was just to enrich the plot hook for future games as theres no real reason to tell the GW.


Well having played most of my games as a female Wardan, there wouldn't have been any baby by accident - when I've taken the DR option I've had Alistair do it.  There has to be some sort of explanation in order to offer the DR and chance of survival for both PC and Alistair, not dependent upon gender or whether you bedded/romanced Morrigan.

Also if she hadn't told you, wouldn't you have wondered why you/Alistair survived, given that you know a Warden has to die to kill the archdemon?

I don't think it's a plot hook for the future, and I hope not, I want a new story, and I don't want Morrigan or child to appear again in the future!  And how could it be a plot hook, given that plenty of people didn't do the DR, basing a future game on it would annoy people in the same way that it annoyed some people being able to import their dead Warden into Awakening if they made the ultimate sacrifice. 

I think her telling you is for purposes of plot exposition - much like a Bond villain explaining exactly how he's going to kill Bond and take over the world, or Doctor Who explaining something to his assistant, for little more than the sake of making sure the audience understands what is happening, and feels the fulfillment of being given the whole story - it's not true to life, but it's usually a necessary part of providing a good entertainment experience.

It is also a pretty awesome RP decision (cliché or not) - save yourself/your friend/your lover at the expense of who knows what in the future, and I think the game would have been lesser had that option not been available as a decision that you have to actively take.

Edit to add:  I don't think I'm cynical as such, just getting old ^_^

Modifié par Epona222, 13 avril 2010 - 09:04 .


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I disagree completely.



Your rebuttal?

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I think they're valid points. But if me and my buddy ali would have survived i would have been from a RP standpoint a cocky jerk "Dude, check out how badass we are...still alive..". It would still raise eyebrows about morrigan. On the same note, i don't think that satisfies my question unfortunatly: (. Im still left with why would she tell? She could have just be like "Rhidorian/PC/Ali (in his case first time haha) ... this may be your last time to lay with a woman..." ect. I don't think morrigan would be like "heres my evil plan! now all i need you to do is....co operate ..." Thats why my thought process was its just a story telling tool, which i agree with epona.

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She could have just be like "Rhidorian/PC/Ali (in his case first time haha) ... this may be your last time to lay with a woman..." ect.

That might work for a MPC, especially one she's romancing. Alistair, however, hates her and Loghain would honestly rather die than sleep with her. We don't know if Riordan would work or if he'd be at all interested. And if you tell her to leave at some point, are you honestly going to believe that some mage you knew for twenty minutes before sending away a year ago really tracked you down because she wanted to make your last day or so memorable?



Basically she has to tell you or else you won't make Alistair/Loghain do it, because she cares about you and feels she should tell you, you have no idea why she randomly showed up, or you hate each other/are indifferent and her offer of sex comes out of the blue.

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I stopped liking Morrigan after bringing her along back to Ostagar. I was getting used to her constant disapprovals, even finding it funnily predictable in the end. But her reaction to my decision to let Cailan have a proper funeral pyre was a real turn off. I mean, disapproving for letting another human being regardless of being king or a commoner having a proper funeral? Wtf? Cynicism might be charming and attractive to a certain degree, but she crossed the line there. I can live with her having a demon child, but to quote Wynne: "Your blatant disregard for the dead strikes me as utterly inappropriate."

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Cool story bro.


I CONCUR, VERILY.

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I can live with her having a demon child, but to quote Wynne: "Your blatant disregard for the dead strikes me as utterly inappropriate."

Like she can talk. Isn't she tormenting Alistair with semi-explicit sex talk right after you find the body?

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She could have just be like "Rhidorian/PC/Ali (in his case first time haha) ... this may be your last time to lay with a woman..." ect.

Morrigan wouldn't sleep with Riordan. If you play a female warden you can suggest her  to sleep with Riordan instead of Alistair. Morrigan will say no because Riordan was tainted for too long and the ritual wouldn't work.