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[Xandurpein]

Leliana = Very sexy french accent

Isolde = Awful whining french accent

[CalJones]

Urshakk wrote...

As far as I know...

Erlina: Kath Soucie

Isolde: Louiza Patikas

Liselle: (the flower girl in Denerim) Shannon Blanchet

Rioridan: Stephane Cornicard

Ah yes, I got my Orlesians mixed up. Kath Soucie also does Marjolaine (not Isolde).

[Meliorist13]

Too bad you can't lock the whiny b***h in a room with Sten for an hour.

[Urshakk]

Meliorist13 wrote...

Too bad you can't lock the whiny b***h in a room with Sten for an hour.

Would their conservation begin with "You are a woman"?

[sylvanaerie]

Urshakk wrote...

Meliorist13 wrote...

Too bad you can't lock the whiny b***h in a room with Sten for an hour.

Would their conservation begin with "You are a woman"?

MAKER no!  Don't do that to Sten...Isolde's voice has been known to kill at short range....TEEEEGAAAANNN!!!

[Bratt1204]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Urshakk wrote...

Meliorist13 wrote...

Too bad you can't lock the whiny b***h in a room with Sten for an hour.

Would their conservation begin with "You are a woman"?

MAKER no!  Don't do that to Sten...Isolde's voice has been known to kill at short range....TEEEEGAAAANNN!!!

[RogueWriter3201]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Urshakk wrote...

Meliorist13 wrote...

Too bad you can't lock the whiny b***h in a room with Sten for an hour.

Would their conservation begin with "You are a woman"?

MAKER no!  Don't do that to Sten...Isolde's voice has been known to kill at short range....TEEEEGAAAANNN!!!

Apparently growing up with Six sisters has given me a resilence to Screechy voices because Isolde's wailing doesn't bother me at all. Guess I have like...screeching deflector shields...or some-such.

[Urshakk]

*prints this*

*plays darts using the picture as the target*

*whistles*

Modifié par Urshakk, 18 avril 2010 - 11:12 .

[Bootsykk]

I actually like Arlessa Isolde a lot. Sure, she is a little annoying at first, but I think she has a really interesting character. She f*cked up big time with Connor, but she was really only trying to keep her child safe.

Then, she offers to sacrifice herself to save her kid. I don't know any kind of dedication greater than that--not to mention that it's blood magic, and she has no guarantee to see if that would work. And then, if you go to kill Connor, she realizes that it's cruel to keep him alive with the amount of pain he's suffering.

To be honest, to call her an annoying **** that is enjoyable to make suffer is really unbelievable to me. Sure, she's proud, and she's arrogant... but I don't think she deserves that. Especially not a desperate mother who is that passionate about keeping her child.

EDIT: She's one of those characters who, like Loghain, i think is really misunderstood due to first impressions or something another character says about her.

Modifié par Juneya, 18 avril 2010 - 11:37 .

[sylvanaerie]

Its beyond that she is annoying. If she were just annoying I could forgive her. But she is annoying and stupid. By her secrecy and her actions she set up a chain of events that nearly destroyed her family and everyone in Redcliffe. If you call her out on this she still assigns the blame to Jowan. Teagan can't even reach her to make her understand the gravity of her actions. There were lots of men women and children (Under her protection as she is Arlessa) who died because of what she did.



Mages are sent to the tower for training for this very reason. While I am not a proponent of the Chantry point of view what happened to Connor would make him a poster child for the Chantry cause.



That she finally accepts Connor is beyond hope (If you go the kill Connor route and I have ONLY done this once and it was like pulling teeth without novacaine to go through it) or that she will allow Jowan to sacrifice her to atone (in part for her involvement in this) alleviates her stupidity somewhat BUT her primary goal is free Connor, NOT atonement. Connor is always her first priority (priority, not concern) a concerned mother would have gotten her child the help he needed not hidden the problem out of misplaced love/humiliation and made the situation worse. When he does go to the tower Connor does well for himself (Unless you sold his soul to the desire demon) so its not like she was going to lose him but her actions have cost many lives and possibly the life of her son as well.



And she has the stones to shriek "IM the Arlessa, who is SHE to decide what we do". WHO am I? Im the one cleaning up this mess you made when I SHOULD be out fighting the dang blight. Stupid cow...Once she said that, I knew I would never let her get away with this again in any other playthrough (this was in my Kill Connor storyline). Had she remembered THAT and remembered her responsibilities to both her family and her holding she wouldn't be in this mess now.



So, no I have no compassion for her anymore.

[C9316]

Like i said killing isolde is ridding the world of her idiocy therefore god will bless you lol

[Thor Rand Al]

VentraleStar wrote...

She's a mother who loves her son....You have to realize that. Though she can be **** jerk.

I'm a mother with 2 son's that I love, but that doesn't mean I'm going put everyone's life in jeapardy by hiring a bloodmage to hide the fact that my child's got magic in his blood.  She was being down right SELFISH.


I can't believe how Eamon takes it so easily.  She literally destroy's a town, almost kills Eamon, her son and herself because she's afraid to lose him.  And what I found interesting was the fact that Eamon's anger was turned towards the bloodmage and not his wife, if not for her none of this would of happened.


But I've always gone to the mages.  I can never kill a child and despite it being her fault, that boy still needs his mother and I couldn't bare to take that away no matter what.

[Urshakk]

Juneya wrote...
EDIT: She's one of those characters who, like Loghain, i think is really misunderstood due to first impressions or something another character says about her.

You really can't compare the first impressions bewteen the two.

Isolde is obviously hiding something and treats you coldly when you first meet her. The only things you've heard about her are from Alistair and Owen (which is all crap and not true).

Loghain you meet at Ostagar, so the first impression you get is him abandoning you and everyone else.

Totally different first impressions: Secretive v.s. Regicide.

Nothing is misunderstood. She turns out to be hiding what's going on in Castle Redcliffe.

Modifié par Urshakk, 19 avril 2010 - 01:19 .

[krasnoarmeets]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Oogrooq wrote...

The french accents were generally pretty terrible. I wanted to cut Marjolaine's tongue out. And that lady at Denerim that sells perfume or something? Ergh! The only decent accent was Riordan, and that's probably because the guy is actually french (I think).

Yes.  Riordan's VA's native language is French (though I don't know if he IS French or French Canadian).  Also Leliana's accent is real. 

Marjolaine is voiced by Kath Soucie who does VO work for a lot of cartoons in the states.  (Rugrats for one).  Her accent is completely fake and inspired by I guess Pepe LePew (another cartoon character with a fake accent) *Sigh*  I believe she also voices Anora's maid, Erlina too.  Sounds like her anyway.  And she does the human female PC Sultry voice subset. 

It's interesting you should say that coz he actually sounds like a Welsh hybrid. Wonder if he's Breton. 

[sylvanaerie]

lol kk I just looked him up, He was born in Normandie, France.

@Urshakk
What does Owen say about her?  I have only gotten dialogue trees concerning the situation at Redcliffe village and his daughter, Valena.  Does he say something about Isolde too?

EDIT 

NM Hechicera just answered my question thanks

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 19 avril 2010 - 01:29 .

[Hechicera]

I dislike her. But after multiple playthroughs exploring dialog my opinion softened from "I will kill her every time, and find a way for it to work in the RP" to "OK, if it is RP she dies".



The obvious have been stated ... TEEEEGANNNN! And her over familiarity with Teagan makes you grate. Even if he didn't sleep with her, she is not above using her sexuality to compel males, openly. Makes you feel bad for her husband too. One of the dialogs states people were even suspicious of her motives with Eamon initially. The whole helicopter parenting of her precious snowflake, at the expense of other people's lives ... ugh. Yes, I'm a mom, but I dislike helicopter parent / my precious snowflake would never .... types intensely. So part of that is my projection onto her character. And of course how she treated Alistair and her disdain for mages make my Alistair friendly chracters and my mages both despise her.



The negative that hasn't been mentioned is the scuttlebutt from the drunken smith when you question him about events before agreeing to look for his daughter - one of Isolde's maids. He tells you that his daughter thinks she may be sleeping with JOWAN!



Other than her willingness to die to (finally) fix her mistakes and save her son, when you find out her that mages run in her family and most were abusive and evil, I do feel a little bad. But then why hide Connor? Sleep with Jowan? That is one high strung woman who makes no sense.

[eucatastrophe]

Hey just a quick word:

We have no proof and she might as well be banging Teagan but the Codex makes it plenty clear that she loves Eamon. Her distress at his illness and the measures she takes (sending them on the Sacred Ashes quest) does speak volumes of love.



It is most likely: she deeply loves Eamon and Teagan is her sex buddy.

[Urshakk]

Hechicera wrote...
The negative that hasn't been mentioned is the scuttlebutt from the drunken smith when you question him about events before agreeing to look for his daughter - one of Isolde's maids. He tells you that his daughter thinks she may be sleeping with a tutor she hired. 

Yea when I first heard that I was a little skeptical coming from a drunk, so when I discovered it was Jowan I found it really amusing and obviously not true. My mage PC was like, "Jowan? Jowan the wimp? Jowan sleep with the Arlessa? Ha! Ya right"

Modifié par Urshakk, 19 avril 2010 - 01:38 .

[Meliorist13]

...suspects she's sleeping with Jowan? ACK!
If it's true,
What a perfect match I
bet they sound like two puppies without their mother when they go at it.
Kudo's
to Jowan if it is so, at least he is trying to 'man' up for a change.

Nevertheless,
all the more reason to kill the sorry skank.

Modifié par Meliorist13, 19 avril 2010 - 01:40 .

[eucatastrophe]

Urshakk wrote...

Hechicera wrote...
The negative that hasn't been mentioned is the scuttlebutt from the drunken smith when you question him about events before agreeing to look for his daughter - one of Isolde's maids. He tells you that his daughter thinks she may be sleeping with JOWAN!

Yea when I first heard that I was a little skeptical coming from a drunk, so when I discovered it was Jowan I found it really amusing and obviously not true. My mage PC was like, "Jowan? Jowan the wimp? Jowan sleep with the Arlessa? Ha! Ya right"

Pretty much this ^^
Valena probably thought the whole hush-hush behaviour of Jowan and Isolde was an affair and not something more nefarious IE Connor being a mage.

Besides, I doubt Jowan can even get it up.

[sylvanaerie]

I dunno. I don't think she is sleeping around I think she does love her husband (its the only thing that gives her pause when you are arguing over killing Connor with her and she begs you not to make her choose between them). I think she does love her family (I still don't like how familiar she is with Teagan but I don't think HE would do that to his brother either). It could simply be she is close to him in a brotherly way.



*Sigh* Still doesn't change how I feel. She was stupid and selfish and so many innocent people paid for her stupidity and selfishness with their lives.

[keesio74]

I hated her initially because I didn't trust her and thought she was leading Teagan into a trap. But once I figured out what was going on, I sympathized with her plight even though part of it was her fault. But she did it out of fear for her son and not any malice. I don't love her but I was glad I was able to save her and Connor both

[Meliorist13]

Urshakk wrote...



*prints this*

*plays darts using the picture as the target*

*whistles*

You know what that gap between her teeth is?  An aiming point.

[Urshakk]

Meliorist13 wrote...
You know what that gap between her teeth is?  An aiming point.

Urshakk approves +5

eucatastrophe wrote...
Besides, I doubt Jowan can even get it up.

Jowan disapproves -69

Modifié par Urshakk, 19 avril 2010 - 07:19 .

[Urshakk]

Elhanan wrote...

I suspect that Isolde and Bann Teagan are having an affair, and that Conner may be his son. I also believe Arl Eamon knows, or at least has evidence of this, but mainly due to his lifetime of experience with Alistair and his abandonment, simply chooses to be above it all. This belief is mostly due to love letters being found at Redcliff and the Estate in Deneri, as well as Isoldes' abrasive but persuasive appeal to Teagan.

Wait, what? How did I miss this.

Bullocks, if Isolde just became pregnant one day and Eamon knows he didn't do it, you can bet your arse he would be all over her till he had the name. Since this is not the case, Connor is obviously Eamons kid.

Nonsense, those love letters have nothing to do with Isolde and Teagan. They are addressed and signed clearly by different people on each of the letters.

She is being persuasive because she is desperate, not because of some affair.

Modifié par Urshakk, 19 avril 2010 - 10:19 .