Now this is a bit of an out there theory or it may be compleatly obvious to some. In Dragon age the stolen throne king Maric meets Flemeth and she provides help to maric and loghain on the condition maric keeps a mysterious promise... What if this promise was to conceive a child with her (Morrigan). However this was not to happen there and then, perhaps a few years later, after all Conceving a child with a outlaw king would be pointless unless he actualy becomes king because there would be no profit in it . When Flemeth takes over morrigans body she could become queen of all Ferelden (not foreseeing the Blight and are warden interfearing) after all Origins is only set 5 years after Marics death the stolen throne taking place roughly 30 years before origins so it is entirely possible that Maric is Morrigans farther. Lets face it aswel the way Morrigan and Alistar bicker they could be brother and sister.
Ive never read the novels but i no the general story if theres something in the story that says what the promise is and im compleatly wrong please tell me.
Morrigan is Alistars half sister
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 09:47
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Yes, them bickering is the ultimate proof that they are brother and sister, it's in their genome.
How would Flemeth prove that Morrigan is the child of Maric?
How would Flemeth prove that Morrigan is the child of Maric?
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 09:48
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Someone else posted this theory. They look nothing alike.
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 09:50
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So what? I look nothing like my half-sister but I know for a fact we're related.Sesshomaru47 wrote...
Someone else posted this theory. They look nothing alike.
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 09:51
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my mate has a half sister whos half black they dont look anything alike and how did they know alistar was a basterd king because people knew and most likley loghain knew but didnt know who the child was i mean the time frames there and plus what other promise could it be. If you listen to morrigans storys about flemeth its deffinitaly not outside her rang of power.
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 09:56
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But they have sex in the female DP ending. That's icky.
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 09:56
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"please do not put spoilers in your title" Well not in the right sense that something in the game is spoiled, but this is kind of hard news to give someone who hasn't read the book yet.
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 10:04
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vypz wrote...
alistar was a basted king
What was he basted with? And does it make yummy gravy?
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 10:05
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lool my badAnniLau wrote...
vypz wrote...
alistar was a basted king
What was he basted with? And does it make yummy gravy?
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 10:06
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My biggest issue with the theory is that the Witch of the Wilds is an old woman in that scene. I don't know how much magic would be required in that situation. It would also make Morrigan around 33-ish. She doesn't seem to be quite that old in the game. I know, I know, look at Eamon to see how much people can NOT look like their ages, but still.
Also, the obvious ewww factor later on...
Also, the obvious ewww factor later on...
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 10:08
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lol i duno Alistar is ment to be a pretty bad cookAnniLau wrote...
So no yummy gravy then?
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 10:08
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What the old God may look like if you pimped Alistair out.
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 10:09
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AnniLau wrote...
So no yummy gravy then?
You can baste me in yummy gravy.
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 10:13
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What the old God may look like if you pimped Alistair out.
He has his fathers eyes.
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 10:14
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Such a good looking ladHerr Uhl wrote...
imported_beer wrote...
What the old God may look like if you pimped Alistair out.
He has his fathers eyes.
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 10:30
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alistar neva slept wid morrigan on ne of my playthroughs lol
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 10:33
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Flemeth is in a different body in The Stolen Throne than the one she raised and possibly conceived Morrigan in. If you talk with Morrigan she will tell you of a time that her mother was young and looked very much like her. In The Stolen Throne Flemeth looks very much like how she does in DA:O.
From what Maric says in The Calling it seems to me that he and Flemeth had a discussion about the future of Ferelden when he was inside the hut with her.
From what Maric says in The Calling it seems to me that he and Flemeth had a discussion about the future of Ferelden when he was inside the hut with her.
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 10:35
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Personally, I don't think that theory makes much sense. Flemeth, in my opinion, did not really want to become the queen of all Ferelden.
So here I'll post my own conspiracy theory: I believe that Flemeth's 'demon' was actually one of the Old Gods speaking to her, and as they had first taught magic to man that Old God taught magic to Flemeth so she could take revenge, which would explain why Flemeth knows magic that was lost since the days of Arlathan (that only a few Dalish Keepers still know) but unlike them, can turn into a high dragon.
Morrigan states that after making the deal with this 'demon' he had made her strong. Normally, an abomination would immediately take over the body of the mage it spoke to, so how could it be that any old demon was speaking to Flemeth? The Old Gods didn't have a way to get out from underground, so they would need another way out: the dark ritual could be a way. Flemeth's deal with this demon could have just been her promise to find a way to bring him back.
Then, the final peice of my lame imagination run wild is the grimoir. You won't catch this detail unless you talk to Morrigan and she tells you what her mother's grimoir looks like: a leather bound spiral with the design of a leafless tree. This back to the opening credits, this very image comes up with while Duncan narrarates, "they were cast out, twisted and cursed by their own corruption. They returned as monsters, the first of the darkspawn." When the Old Gods first tried to escape their prison, their plan had ultimately backfired, as now they were being summoned from their prison to be tainted. Now, thought Duncan is narrarating the history of the darkspawn... think of it as if he were talking about the Old Gods instead. It kind of just clicks.
My theory is probably just a bunch of hogwash, but to be honest, I don't see how Flemeth benefits from having a child of royal blood--especially since women cannot overthrow a king due to their standing in society (I'm being honest here, not sexist. Nobody would kick a male king off the throne, even if he was of royal blood, to put a woman on that is not known by the people). What makes more sense to me when Maric gave her a promise is that he promised to bring the Grey Wardens back to Ferelden. Because I'm a self-absorbed ****** I'm also going to tie this into my theory: Flemeth wouldn't want the world to succumb to a blight, because otherwise, the darkspawn would just raise up another archdemon, possibly her archdemon, and that would just blow. This also explains why she had the treaties: she needed the blight to be over as quickly and cleanly as possible.
So here I'll post my own conspiracy theory: I believe that Flemeth's 'demon' was actually one of the Old Gods speaking to her, and as they had first taught magic to man that Old God taught magic to Flemeth so she could take revenge, which would explain why Flemeth knows magic that was lost since the days of Arlathan (that only a few Dalish Keepers still know) but unlike them, can turn into a high dragon.
Morrigan states that after making the deal with this 'demon' he had made her strong. Normally, an abomination would immediately take over the body of the mage it spoke to, so how could it be that any old demon was speaking to Flemeth? The Old Gods didn't have a way to get out from underground, so they would need another way out: the dark ritual could be a way. Flemeth's deal with this demon could have just been her promise to find a way to bring him back.
Then, the final peice of my lame imagination run wild is the grimoir. You won't catch this detail unless you talk to Morrigan and she tells you what her mother's grimoir looks like: a leather bound spiral with the design of a leafless tree. This back to the opening credits, this very image comes up with while Duncan narrarates, "they were cast out, twisted and cursed by their own corruption. They returned as monsters, the first of the darkspawn." When the Old Gods first tried to escape their prison, their plan had ultimately backfired, as now they were being summoned from their prison to be tainted. Now, thought Duncan is narrarating the history of the darkspawn... think of it as if he were talking about the Old Gods instead. It kind of just clicks.
My theory is probably just a bunch of hogwash, but to be honest, I don't see how Flemeth benefits from having a child of royal blood--especially since women cannot overthrow a king due to their standing in society (I'm being honest here, not sexist. Nobody would kick a male king off the throne, even if he was of royal blood, to put a woman on that is not known by the people). What makes more sense to me when Maric gave her a promise is that he promised to bring the Grey Wardens back to Ferelden. Because I'm a self-absorbed ****** I'm also going to tie this into my theory: Flemeth wouldn't want the world to succumb to a blight, because otherwise, the darkspawn would just raise up another archdemon, possibly her archdemon, and that would just blow. This also explains why she had the treaties: she needed the blight to be over as quickly and cleanly as possible.
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Serissia wrote...
Flemeth is in a different body in The Stolen Throne than the one she raised and possibly conceived Morrigan in. If you talk with Morrigan she will tell you of a time that her mother was young and looked very much like her. In The Stolen Throne Flemeth looks very much like how she does in DA:O.
From what Maric says in The Calling it seems to me that he and Flemeth had a discussion about the future of Ferelden when he was inside the hut with her.
I never read the book but I think the promise was to allow the Grey wardens in Fereldan.
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 10:42
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I disagree.
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Whenever I see Morrigan, I see Grima Wormtongue from LOTR. Now those two could be siblings. Not only do they look alike, but both are self-serving, manipulative and downright nasty. (in my opinion)
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Whenever I see Morrigan, I see Grima Wormtongue from LOTR. Now those two could be siblings. Not only do they look alike, but both are self-serving, manipulative and downright nasty. (in my opinion)
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Posté 13 avril 2010 - 10:43
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Listing to Juneya and awesomeeffect2 my theory does seem compleat crap nw esppecialy reading Juneyas but think like this felemeth did not know maric would have a child with Fiona (the calling spoilers to follow) thats who i belive Alistas real mother to be, not goldanas mother (i know another conspiracy). if the deamon was really an old god who possesed felemeth wouldnt it make sence for her to seek being the ruler of the kingdom with the only known accsess to the deeproads admitingly thats orzamar but you can see what im gettin at hopefully?
