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[Garuda One]

Im hesitant on posting this on BioWares forums let alone the forums for the new MMO there making so Ill see what people think here first.

BioWare, check these videos out first for pure enjoyment and secondly to make sure this doesn't happen to you.

Red Letter Media

Star Wars: The Phantom Menace Review

Star Wars Episode 2: Attack of the Clones Review

I think he makes really good points that anyone anywere should take as simply guidelines. Also, BioWare as a company as of right now and what they create now is perfectly fine. I'm more worried about the future then anything because I feel they are going to make even more money, but at that point will be more blinded by the sheer amounts of money, girls jumping up and down asking for BioWare staff to sign there chest that they may slowly forget why people loved there games. 

-Editing it to fix hyperlinks-

Modifié par Garuda One, 14 avril 2010 - 02:05 .

[Collider]

Lol, I loved those videos. Thanks for sharing.

[exxxed]

Hah! That guy is amazing.



So funny and yet so true!



Thanks and take care.

[Stanley Woo]

Make sure we don't create something that breaks box office records and makes millions upon millions of dollars in just the release weekend? Make sure we don't make something that's talked about everywhere? Make sure people don't come out of experiencing our product with wonderment and awe, to the point of feeling disappointed that the real world can't measure up? Make sure that our products are only critically successful rather than commercially successful?

[Garuda One]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Make sure we don't create something that breaks box office records and makes millions upon millions of dollars in just the release weekend? Make sure we don't make something that's talked about everywhere? Make sure people don't come out of experiencing our product with wonderment and awe, to the point of feeling disappointed that the real world can't measure up? Make sure that our products are only critically successful rather than commercially successful?

Not sure if your raging or disproving me or... what I dont even. All Im saying is that later down the road don't lose what you've done from your past games, thats all. So far everything is fine as of right now Woo I more wanted people to see this so it doesn't happen to them later in creating somthing people enjoyed for what it was. When people start getting the big bucks they slowly unknowingly loose what and why people enjoyed that said created thing to begin with. I see this as for anyone, be it creating a story, creating a work of art or anything in between, thats it. Not to mention its a good laugh if your down in the dumps.

[HolyMoogle]

Meh.



Star Wars fans have the thickest pairs of rose-tinted glasses of any fandom. And that guys voice makes me feel like I'm drowing in my own saliva >_<

[Garuda One]

HolyMoogle wrote...

Meh.

Star Wars fans have the thickest pairs of rose-tinted glasses of any fandom. And that guys voice makes me feel like I'm drowing in my own saliva >_<

I think thats what so great, his voice makes me laugh so much. Also again it's why Im hesitent on even attempting to post this on the other forums. If Woo disapproves Ill probably get beaten to a pulp and then slowly disected by god knows who.

[Collider]

It's his voice, yea.

[DragonRageGT]

Well, other than the original trilogy, the second SW trilogy is among those "worst movies ever", just like the guy said and that was not a joke, although he was comic about it.

And the best SW game ever must be X-Wing Alliance because that's all there is to it. Flying cool warcrafts and shooting enemies from your cockpit! (which, btw, fills the story between ep. 5 and 6, explaining a lot of what was seen in Return of the Jedi. Awesome game indeed!)

Modifié par RageGT, 14 avril 2010 - 08:51 .

[Gill Kaiser]

Despite his serial killer schtick, that guy really knows what he's talking about when it comes to reviewing movies. Before I watched those reviews I knew I hated the Star Wars prequels, but I couldn't quite pinpoint what it was about them that made them so different from the original trilogy. That guy helped me understand and I feel I understand methods of storytelling in general better because of it.

The prequel trilogy is what happens when you give a single guy unlimited funds, the technology to do whatever he wants, and nobody to stop him. After seeing the prequel trilogy I have serious doubts that Lucas was the one responsible for the greatness of the original trilogy. Either the guy completely changed over the intervening years, or during the first trilogy he had lots of talented people keeping him in line and shooting down his more stupid ideas.

[Terror_K]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Make sure we don't create something that breaks box office records and makes millions upon millions of dollars in just the release weekend? Make sure we don't make something that's talked about everywhere? Make sure people don't come out of experiencing our product with wonderment and awe, to the point of feeling disappointed that the real world can't measure up? Make sure that our products are only critically successful rather than commercially successful?

If you guys want to just shovel out crap and make money simply by slapping the Mass Effect name on it knowing that people will buy it solely because of that, then go ahead. But that attitude isn't exactly helping paint yourselves better to those who already think you guys are starting to put profit before quality. And it doesn't give me much confidence in ME3 either.

[Icinix]

Just wanted to get in and say that Ewan McGregor holding his mouth moaning about how Anakin killed 'younglings' is the most painful moment I have ever experienced in a movie. And I love Ewan McGregor, and love Star Wars.



I think BioWare rocks, and they do good work. Every game has niggles, and every game always will. But they are still very high quality, went back and played KOTOR the other day, and realised how buggy it is, played the first Mass Effect, and realised half of it was one part of the game being replayed and still it had bugs. This idea that BioWare has dropped off their game, and I stress IN MY OWN OPINION, has come from nowhere. They do good work, continue to do good work, and I have little doubt that their future work will be awesome too.

Just saying is all.

[initcrash]

Terror_K wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Make sure we don't create something that breaks box office records and makes millions upon millions of dollars in just the release weekend? Make sure we don't make something that's talked about everywhere? Make sure people don't come out of experiencing our product with wonderment and awe, to the point of feeling disappointed that the real world can't measure up? Make sure that our products are only critically successful rather than commercially successful?

If you guys want to just shovel out crap and make money simply by slapping the Mass Effect name on it knowing that people will buy it solely because of that, then go ahead. But that attitude isn't exactly helping paint yourselves better to those who already think you guys are starting to put profit before quality. 

ME: Galaxy

Terror_K wrote...
And it doesn't give me much confidence in ME3 either.

i'm still optimistic about that, considering how great ME2 was.

Modifié par initcrash, 14 avril 2010 - 10:34 .

[GothamLord]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Make sure we don't create something that breaks box office records and makes millions upon millions of dollars in just the release weekend?

Lots of movies open up with a blast on their opening weekend. Its their ability to maintain in the top three that determines if its actually good.


Make sure we don't make something that's talked about everywhere?

Crystal Pepsi was talked about globally when it came out. It was generally realized to be a bad idea.


Make sure people don't come out of experiencing our product with wonderment and awe, to the point of feeling disappointed that the real world can't measure up?

I come out of sci-fi moves all the time disappointed the world doesnt measure up. After all its Sci-fi... Everyone has blasters, they travel in space at faster than light speeds, alien races, laser swords, droids. I come out of fantasy movies disappointed I cant conjure fireballs with magic in my hands. People also experience wonderment and awe in the fact that Uwe Boll can still get work and paid for it on top of that.


Make sure that our products are only critically successful rather than commercially successful?

Critical success leads to commercial success. New fans and players are buying the original Mass Effect game and coming into the universe on word of mouth. Most games have their six or so months of greatest and are then tossed aside for the next "cool" thing. Not alot of games can claim to still be selling copies at over two plus years old.

Modifié par GothamLord, 14 avril 2010 - 10:56 .

[Terror_K]

initcrash wrote...

Terror_K wrote...
And it doesn't give me much confidence in ME3 either.

i'm still optimistic about that, considering how great ME2 was.

Yes, and I'm still pessimistic about it, considering how great ME2 wasn't.

[Livemmo]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Make sure we don't create something that breaks box office records and makes millions upon millions of dollars in just the release weekend? Make sure we don't make something that's talked about everywhere? Make sure people don't come out of experiencing our product with wonderment and awe, to the point of feeling disappointed that the real world can't measure up? Make sure that our products are only critically successful rather than commercially successful?

You're doing it wrong.

[Jeremy Shepherd]

Wow, none of that was funny in the least bit. The voice, the metaphors, etc. None of that funny unless you have a simple mind.



Either way, Bioware is on track. I couldn't play ME2 for a second time for awhile, but I am finally back into it. It's a good game with a few issues. Bioware tried to fix the issues from the first game and created a good game with different issues. That is how it is and how it will be.



Bioware give you guys an opportunity to speak your minds, so do it. But don't do it in a completely unfunny and dumb way.



And to be clear, those videos weren't funny at all. I'd rather go to other sources, rather than someone speaking in a monotone voice, mocking all gamer and movie goer fans. Think about it, before hand.

[Sgt Lindog]

i dont see where the OP was going with this

i dont think bioware are anything like george lucas or james cameron and so far theyve done a pretty good job of giving the fans what they want within reason..

[BomimoDK]

they just shouldn't franchisify it for the sake of bucks.... star was was a 6 episode saga... what's that cartoon series doing in there? making cheap bucks.



Bioware, stay your course. don't sell out. i guess was the point?

[Garuda One]

BomimoDK wrote...

they just shouldn't franchisify it for the sake of bucks.... star was was a 6 episode saga... what's that cartoon series doing in there? making cheap bucks.

Bioware, stay your course. don't sell out. i guess was the point?

Pretty much what my point was. BioWare make great stories but once they jump on the MMO banwagon I hope they keep to how they are now or even before a little bit.

Modifié par Garuda One, 14 avril 2010 - 11:55 .

[DTKT]

Actually, why would a business make a decision that would go agaisnt the first and only goal of a business?



It might please the critics, but if it doesnt sell, it's worth nothing.

[vhatever]

Can anyone name me a bioware sequel that wasn't better than the original?

[DTKT]

vhatever wrote...

Can anyone name me a bioware sequel that wasn't better than the original?

I'm sure plenty will argue that ME2 was a dumbed down RPG compared to ME1. I disagree completly but heh.

[BomimoDK]

Garuda One wrote...

BomimoDK wrote...

they just shouldn't franchisify it for the sake of bucks.... star was was a 6 episode saga... what's that cartoon series doing in there? making cheap bucks.

Bioware, stay your course. don't sell out. i guess was the point?

Pretty much what my point was. BioWare make great stories but once they jump on the MMO banwagon I hope they keep to how they are now or even before a little bit.

i don't think their MMO is gonna be any problem at all. i don't see much wrong with this company at all. i like what they're doing so far.