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[BomimoDK]

Seneva wrote...

Nerdrage tingling.

When I have the time to play, I play. When I don't have the time to play, I don't. WoW doesn't rule my life. If you don't like the game anymore, simply quit. No one cares if you quit. I certainly don't. If you lack selfcontrol then you have a problem.
If you think the game is about "enduring sadistic all-nighters" then you and I are playing a different game.

My "shallow understanding of gaming" That's a good one. I nearly spilled my coffee reading that.
I couldn't care less if you like a game or not. nor should you care wether I like a game or not.

wasn't it YOU who just attempted to whack OP for not having ûber L337 endurance to grind though this game? i'm okay with you playing since you enjoy it. i just can't stand the thought of people playing it for the sake of playing, or even worse... to fit in with others.
i know the game. i played it. i got bored. no one cares, so i'll just shut up about it.

a whole other thing i do dislike is the fact that this game rubs off on other games... and you can figure out what that does to my game experience when i think WoW has gotten tedious...
what did we need WoW style sidequests for in dragon age? grind, pick-up, locate, kill... that's what it was. sidequests by bioware used to have half a novel of story intertwined. i can't blame WoW for doing it since others have before... but i do blame the fact that WoW got mainstream for it, and by extension (allow me to be so bold, arrogant and may i say ignorant) Blizzard and the Players of WoW.

to me, wow is a grind fest... a merry go round that never ends, it's the same again and again. (not counting obvious factors as the social element and party/guild interaction/tactics since these are far from a factor when that quest concept is smacked into a single player game.

the industry is changing... in some peoples view, i just can't take it. in my view, and many others, good stuff gets lost for the sake of the greater masses. it's sad and good at the same time... too bad i'm the one saddened.

that's not to say that i do not appreciate the quality bump that games have got these days. it's more the way that the games become more and more... clones.

Modifié par BomimoDK, 14 avril 2010 - 06:45 .

[ImperialOperative]

Bomimo, congratulations on being the most incoherent poster I've ever seen on these boards.

[BomimoDK]

ImperialOperative wrote...

Bomimo, congratulations on being the most incoherent poster I've ever seen on these boards.

uhh... sorry, i guess.  in what way? half last page decided i was slow... because i reply to a post that's.. what? half a page old orr?

Modifié par BomimoDK, 14 avril 2010 - 06:52 .

[Ahzrei]

Busomjack wrote...

Why do these people keep on thinking that anyone outside their pathetic social clique gives a damn about their armor sets, their arena ratings blah blah blah?
I'm seriously convinced that these people do not find any entertainment outside of this damn game.  I have been doing some volunteer work recently and a few of the people I have met there are World Of Warcraft gamers and let me tell you, they are IMPOSSIBLE to socialize with.
No matter what subject I bring up be it games, sports, hobbies, books, movies etc. they'll just say

"yeah, thats nice...anyways let me tell you about this time I was farming for gems..."

I have to wonder.  Were these people such hopeless, shallow, uninteresting losers before they started World Of Warcraft or did World Of Warcraft destroy them?
Nobody else cares about how many points they can put into their stat bar.  It's not like your tombstone is going to mention how you killed Arthas in an elite raid.

I'm sick of this stupid game and it's legion of it's idiot fans who have no lives.  They should not be considered real gamers.  Real gamers play a variety of games, they don't dedicate their lives to a guild as if it's a full time job.
I don't even think these people find the game fun.  Nobody ever talks about the actual game, they talk only about the rewards like armor sets, weapons, titles, and achievments.  That is all that drives them.  They seek out these rewards like a crack addict seeks out a fix.  Thesepeople aren't gamers, they're slaves.

Anyways, yeah...just thought I'd rant a bit.  WOW sucks.

I play World of Warcraft. I raid two nights out of the week. I'd raid a third, but that's the day I play Dungeons and Dragons with a group of friends. I was anti-social long before World of Warcraft came along. WoW can destory social lives, certainly, but people who let this happen lack what we call priorities.

And it's a Heroic raid, sir, not elite. And killing Heroic Arthas at this point in time is no easy task.


You should never let a small portion of a massive population ruin your opinion of everyone in the larger group. That's something like eleven million people you're bad-mouthing right now whom you've never met, or even heard about. I don't like being judged based on someone elses social shortcommings anymore than you'd want me to call you an **** based on this one assholish post that you've made. I know, however, that this one post does not explain everything you've ever said- or even things you say on a normal basis.


And anyway, only playing one game can make you a "Gamer" by common social definition. Just because you don't like these few people that you associate with, and would rather not be grouped with them, doesn't mean that they don't "deserve" to be called gamers. What are you, 12?

[Rubbish Hero]

I don't think Mr T actually plays it.

[Kurt M.]

It's not completely WoW's fault. If this society wasn't so nihilistic, absurd, selfish and empty, always looking for more and for impossible perfections, there would be not even half of the players that there are actually. In my opinion, those types of addiction are the symptom of a much bigger problem, not a cause.

[Statulos]

Gladiador2 wrote...

It's not completely WoW's fault. If this society wasn't so nihilistic, absurd, selfish and empty, always looking for more and for impossible perfections, there would be not even half of the players that there are actually. In my opinion, those types of addiction are the symptom of a much bigger problem, not a cause.

Nihilism, absurdity and emptuness are quilities I highly value. Good description of what life actually is.

It´s up to everyone to make it meaningful.

[bzombo]

DragonOaf wrote...

And when people are obsessed with something, it is impossible to get them to shut up about it. I work with an intolerable amount of New York Yankees fans, and there is no way to get them to stop...

as a proud yankees fan, i am offended. anyway...seems a lot of people have issues with busomjack and feel the need to attack him because of their personal opinion of him. busomjack is a bit on the wacky side, but his posts are fun to read. i've had issues with him before, but i can move on. some people have gotten hung up on him and hate everything he does. seems like a waste of time for them to care so much.

[Kurt M.]

Statulos wrote...

Gladiador2 wrote...

It's not completely WoW's fault. If this society wasn't so nihilistic, absurd, selfish and empty, always looking for more and for impossible perfections, there would be not even half of the players that there are actually. In my opinion, those types of addiction are the symptom of a much bigger problem, not a cause.

Nihilism, absurdity and emptuness are quilities I highly value. Good description of what life actually is.

It´s up to everyone to make it meaningful.

You've completely missed the point.

I haven't talked about someone looking for his/her meaning of life. I'm talking about this society is slowly destroying them. Words like "honor", "sacrifice", "courage", "identity", etc.. are losing it's meaning due to selfish, individualism, mass shopping, destruction of each nation's own culture (in favor of the pre-fabricated, American one) and complete hedonism. People nowadays only aspire to have a good house/car/amount of money and the masificated and false statement of love, fueled by some mother****ers because it's the best way to keep people slept so they can't realize we're going to a complete civilization collapse. Or worse.

Yeah, I know, it sounds "cliche" and utterly catastrophic, but luckily I don't need any argument or anything to prove it. Time is enough.

[crysischaos]

I've never understood paying a month fee to play a game that you already bought. I know that Blizzard supports it with patches/additions and such, but $15 a month to play a game, is something I wouldn't do. One of the reasons I won't be playing SWTOR.

[Statulos]

How curious; i have seen those words on people like Aristophanes, Petrarca, Tacitus, Spengler, Metternich and many others pointing out at exactly the same since the dawn of civilization and we´re still here...

[chiliztri]

Gladiador2 wrote...

You've completely missed the point.

I haven't talked about someone looking for his/her meaning of life. I'm talking about this society is slowly destroying them. Words like "honor", "sacrifice", "courage", "identity", etc.. are losing it's meaning due to selfish, individualism, mass shopping, destruction of each nation's own culture (in favor of the pre-fabricated, American one) and complete hedonism. People nowadays only aspire to have a good house/car/amount of money and the masificated and false statement of love, fueled by some mother****ers because it's the best way to keep people slept so they can't realize we're going to a complete civilization collapse. Or worse.

Yeah, I know, it sounds "cliche" and utterly catastrophic, but luckily I don't need any argument or anything to prove it. Time is enough.

Why does everyone have to bring America into this? It's nice to blame a whole country instead of looking at yourself right?

[bzombo]

Gladiador2 wrote...

Statulos wrote...

Gladiador2 wrote...

It's not completely WoW's fault. If this society wasn't so nihilistic, absurd, selfish and empty, always looking for more and for impossible perfections, there would be not even half of the players that there are actually. In my opinion, those types of addiction are the symptom of a much bigger problem, not a cause.

Nihilism, absurdity and emptuness are quilities I highly value. Good description of what life actually is.

It´s up to everyone to make it meaningful.

You've completely missed the point.

I haven't talked about someone looking for his/her meaning of life. I'm talking about this society is slowly destroying them. Words like "honor", "sacrifice", "courage", "identity", etc.. are losing it's meaning due to selfish, individualism, mass shopping, destruction of each nation's own culture (in favor of the pre-fabricated, American one) and complete hedonism. People nowadays only aspire to have a good house/car/amount of money and the masificated and false statement of love, fueled by some mother****ers because it's the best way to keep people slept so they can't realize we're going to a complete civilization collapse. Or worse.

Yeah, I know, it sounds "cliche" and utterly catastrophic, but luckily I don't need any argument or anything to prove it. Time is enough.

hate america much? i love how the first thing some people do is just use america as the great evil destroying everyone else.  those same people beg for money when their economy collapses, beg for help when some psychopath tries to invade their country, and so on. america sucks until you need us. but this is an argument for another thread. i don't bash other people's countries, cultures, and governments, but so many seem intent on doing it to mine. america is not the great evil trying to ruin everything for everyone else. maybe more would be accomplished if people didn't look for someone to blame all the time and owned up to their problems. that sounds like a fantasy though. it's much easier to blame someone else. america is stealing your culture!!!!!

Modifié par bzombo, 14 avril 2010 - 07:42 .

[chiliztri]

bzombo wrote...

hate america much? i love how the first thing everyone does is just use america as the great evil destroying everyone else.  those same people beg for money when their economy collapses, beg for help when some psychopath tries to invade their country, and so on. america sucks until you need us. but this is an argument for another thread. i don't bash other people's countries, cultures, and governments, but so many seem intent on doing it to mine. america is not the great evil trying to ruin everything for everyone else. maybe more would be accomplished if people didn't look for someone to blame all the time and owned up to their problems. that sounds like a fantasy though. it's much easier to blame someone else. america is stealing your culture!!!!!

Well put my friend, well put.

[addiction21]

Gladiador2 wrote...


Yeah, I know, it sounds "cliche" and utterly catastrophic, but luckily I don't need any argument or anything to prove it. Time is enough.

At some point the waffle overlords will come and consume all the natural resources on the planet. That includes humans.
I need no evidence or an arguement because im a ****ing nut job.

[Kurt M.]

Fortunately, Plan Marshall (and similar ones) completely ignored Spain (thankfully), so we own nothing to Americans in questions of money. Besides, there's the issue of Cuba, *ajem*autobombingyourshipstoprovokeawar*ajem*, and so on...

Oh, and I admit it's OUR fault, too, for accepting that foreign and poisoned culture as our own, and not to reject it and give more value to our own (and much richer) one. In short, American culture is the virus, but it's our fault not being vaccined for it. So don't come here arguing you're the "saviors of the world". Anything that America gives comes with heavy interests. And besides, that tale is already boring.

Anyway, although I'm clearly anti-American, it wasn't my intention to begin a flamewar, nor I wasn't talking about anything else than American CULTURE. And about that (and that it's spreading), you know I'm right.

Modifié par Gladiador2, 14 avril 2010 - 07:59 .

[Statulos]

chiliztri wrote...

Gladiador2 wrote...

You've completely missed the point.

I haven't talked about someone looking for his/her meaning of life. I'm talking about this society is slowly destroying them. Words like "honor", "sacrifice", "courage", "identity", etc.. are losing it's meaning due to selfish, individualism, mass shopping, destruction of each nation's own culture (in favor of the pre-fabricated, American one) and complete hedonism. People nowadays only aspire to have a good house/car/amount of money and the masificated and false statement of love, fueled by some mother****ers because it's the best way to keep people slept so they can't realize we're going to a complete civilization collapse. Or worse.

Yeah, I know, it sounds "cliche" and utterly catastrophic, but luckily I don't need any argument or anything to prove it. Time is enough.

Why does everyone have to bring America into this? It's nice to blame a whole country instead of looking at yourself right?

I have been living in the US enough to see that you guys are not more, nor less stupid than us Spaniards or Norwegians (the other country I have been living in for a long time).

Gladiador2 wrote...

Fortunately, Plan Marshall completely
ignored Spain, thankfully, so we own nothing to Americans in questions
of money. Besides, there's the issue of Cuba,
*ajem*autobombingyourshipstoprovokeawar*ajem*, and so on...

40 years of oscurantism are not something to be happy about.

Modifié par Statulos, 14 avril 2010 - 08:00 .

[Godak]

Gladiador2 wrote...

Oh, and I admit it's OUR fault, too, for accepting that foreign and poisoned culture as our own, and not to reject it and give more value to our own (and much richer) one. In short, American culture is the virus, but it's our fault not being vaccined for it. So don't come here arguing you're the "saviors of the world". Anything that America gives comes with interests. And besides, that tale is already boring.

Anyway, although I'm clearly anti-American, it wasn't my intention to begin a flamewar, nor I wasn't talking about anything else than American CULTURE. And about that (and that it's spreading), you know I'm right.

*Sniff*

Close minded ignorance...It's almost enough to bring a tear to me eye!

I'd also like to point out that I don't believe that the US is the 'savior of the world'. Also, what you're experiencing isn't the spread of American culture...it's the spread off multiculturalism. Get over it.

Modifié par Godak, 14 avril 2010 - 08:02 .

[Kurt M.]

Statulos wrote...

I have been living in the US enough to see that you guys are not more, nor less stupid than us Spaniards or Norwegians (the other country I have been living in for a long time).

Oh, I don't say they're stupid. Au contraire! They're very smart. Too much.

40 years of oscurantism are not something to be happy about.

Yeah, I don't agree about that either. But, as you can see, it had it's points.

Modifié par Gladiador2, 14 avril 2010 - 08:05 .

[Statulos]

The US is the big boy of our time but all what you posted has been said of every major empire, every big coutry and every "decadent society" since writting was there.



I mean, I have red stuff very similar to what you posted in Sumerian texts.

[bzombo]

Gladiador2 wrote...

Fortunately, Plan Marshall (and similar ones) completely ignored Spain (thankfully), so we own nothing to Americans in questions of money. Besides, there's the issue of Cuba, *ajem*autobombingyourshipstoprovokeawar*ajem*, and so on...

Oh, and I admit it's OUR fault, too, for accepting that foreign and poisoned culture as our own, and not to reject it and give more value to our own (and much richer) one. In short, American culture is the virus, but it's our fault not being vaccined for it. So don't come here arguing you're the "saviors of the world". Anything that America gives comes with heavy interests. And besides, that tale is already boring.

Anyway, although I'm clearly anti-American, it wasn't my intention to begin a flamewar, nor I wasn't talking about anything else than American CULTURE. And about that (and that it's spreading), you know I'm right.

you see it as easier to blame someone else (or another country) for your problems. you admit you're anti-america. fine, hate us. i have done nothing to you, yet you insist on insulting my culture and way of life. i had not done that to you. you want to preserve your culture? good for you. i applaud that. sitting behind you keyboard half a world away and complaining that america is ruining your culture seems whiny and childish. american culture is not a virus. any country that is incorporating american culture is doing it because that country has chosen to and there is a market, so to speak, for it. you can bash all you want. i know you will anyway. i just find it offensive and irritating that there are people who need to blame america for all their problems when any problem they have was caused by their own failings and not the actions of a country halfway across the world. maybe you're the problem and not everyone else. ever think about that? sometimes you need to look at yourself and not try to lay your blame on someone or something that is not the problem. but since it's easier to look for who to blame no one bothers with that.

Modifié par bzombo, 14 avril 2010 - 08:20 .

[Statulos]

To be crear: the US is giving me a future that Spain has refused to give me again and again.

And hey, I still keep the accent from Cerrato and speak the same language that back there.

Modifié par Statulos, 14 avril 2010 - 08:40 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

[Onyx Jaguar]

Statulos wrote...

Gladiador2 wrote...

It's not completely WoW's fault. If this society wasn't so nihilistic, absurd, selfish and empty, always looking for more and for impossible perfections, there would be not even half of the players that there are actually. In my opinion, those types of addiction are the symptom of a much bigger problem, not a cause.

Nihilism, absurdity and emptuness are quilities I highly value. Good description of what life actually is.

It´s up to everyone to make it meaningful.

+1 BILLION

[ObserverStatus]