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[Dark Lilith]

Blackveldt wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

I don´t see the problem with "legs and cleavage". I mean, sometimes it´s a bit ridiculous, but would you honestly prefer the women in games to be fat and ugly?

There is such a thing as 'too much.'  "Fat and ugly [women]" have nothing to do with placing higher emphasis on physical features such as "legs and cleavage" over more significant traits, skills, or even basic role(s) (in game).

Again, I point to this video which is rather well-done in its analytical assessment of such subject matter.

this video is indeed very true.Much emphasis is placed on sexuality in not only game mediums but almost all mediums.I don't think you'll see a lot of change until certain changes happen in a male dominated world where women are still and often treated as less than nor equal to men. I myself like a scantily clad woman character and male characters as well,but then I march to the sound of a different drummer anyway.

[Tirigon]

Godak wrote...

Iron Man195 wrote...

Why can't we all just be nude? Yeah, there's a question for you, makes you wonder.

Sunburn.

Besides of that it would make me wish to be blind. No offense.

[Statulos]

The great advantage of RPG´s is the conversational side of the games. I mean, cleavage may work fine to make a sexy character, but even if Morrigan was dressed with nun robes (which can be the case), she still has a very sensual voice (kuddos for Claudia Black!) and a no less sensual way of adressing topics very often times.

Nobody gets a bitter taste with a candy, that´s for sure, but I think it´s far more effective to show overt sexuality by means of spoken word and mannerism than with tight clothing. Sure, if they come from both, even better!

Another good example of this is Tali. Sure, she´s not the same as Morrigan or Miranda who are clear; but by means of the way she talks, the way she moves and even the way she hold´s Sheppard´s hands, the tone and intent of her words is clear, very clear; and tremendously cute at the same time.

Modifié par Statulos, 18 avril 2010 - 05:10 .

[Tirigon]

YEA Tali is very sexy. Just sad that underneath her mask there are terrible, TERRIBLE things.

[Statulos]

And now it´s the moment I tease my beard thinking... Why nobody has posted this in the music thread?

Modifié par Statulos, 18 avril 2010 - 09:05 .

[MoneyDeluxe]

OP take it from someone who knows about this stuff, even contemplating such a topic is clinically insane.

[FlintlockJazz]

Dark Lilith wrote...

this video is indeed very true.Much emphasis is placed on sexuality in not only game mediums but almost all mediums.I don't think you'll see a lot of change until certain changes happen in a male dominated world where women are still and often treated as less than nor equal to men. I myself like a scantily clad woman character and male characters as well,but then I march to the sound of a different drummer anyway.

Its not a case of 'male dominance' but a case of 'sex sells' (for both genders).  Advertising companies would show full on sex shows if they were allowed to.  Until they have social obligations forced on them companies will continue to use such tactics, regardless of gender.

[Wicked 702]

Seagloom wrote...

@Tirigon - I think the Morrigan bit is subjective considering how many guys seem to find her hawt around these parts, and that she was intentionally designed as sexually attractive. (I realize you tacked on IMO but the preceding sentence read like an objective statement.)

For months before Dragon Age released, Morrigan was the poster child for the lust in advertisement taglines. I also posit Morrigan does care for her looks at least a little to wear make-up and appreciate finer jewelry. I'm not interested in butting into your debate, but that line was too hard for me to resist.

I'm afraid I'm jumping in a little late here again. Not disagreeing with anything here just adding my 2 cents. Statulos basically stated a part of what I was thinking on the next page.

For Morrigan, her sexual appeal goes beyond the basic looks and clothing. For a lot of people, Claudia Black has a very sexy voice. Many guys won't notice it but it's the subconscious effect of things like that, or for another example those piercing yellow eyes of hers, that bring that various levels of attraction. Just like in most situations, the man or woman that stands out from the rest tends to get more interest. Whatever your "thing" is, it's grabbing you on a deeper level than just omg bewbz!

I would argue the same for Alistair's voice. His 2 day stubble beard as well. He has the sort of rugged knightlyness that many women have been conditioned to find attractive. I think it's more than the abs....

[Panderfringe]

Women should be wrapped in hiqabs, it's the only way to stop their effect on men's perverted lust.



Do you people actually consider waht you say, or do you just jump right in?

[Loerwyn]

Panderfringe wrote...

Women should be wrapped in hiqabs, it's the only way to stop their effect on men's perverted lust.

Do you people actually consider waht you say, or do you just jump right in?

That doesn't solve the issue.
It justs turns it so women feel they have to "repress" their sexuality.

[Panderfringe]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

Panderfringe wrote...

Women should be wrapped in hiqabs, it's the only way to stop their effect on men's perverted lust.

Do you people actually consider waht you say, or do you just jump right in?

That doesn't solve the issue.
It justs turns it so women feel they have to "repress" their sexuality.

That's

the

point

[Loerwyn]

If you're being sarcastic, then maybe you have a point.

If not, then it's a silly idea. It doesn't "stop the effect" at all. It changes the situation so women feel ashamed of their own bodies, as if they're not fit to be seen. If anything, it increases the lust factor because it's "taboo" and so forth.

[Panderfringe]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

If you're being sarcastic, then maybe you have a point.

Of course I am, what the hell

[chiliztri]

FYI, sarcasm does not translate over the internet.

[Panderfringe]

Yes it does. Unless you are completely incapable of reading the tone of a sentence. In which case there's probably some centre of learning you could probably learn something from?

[Feraele]

Statulos wrote...

The great advantage of RPG´s is the conversational side of the games. I mean, cleavage may work fine to make a sexy character, but even if Morrigan was dressed with nun robes (which can be the case), she still has a very sensual voice (kuddos for Claudia Black!) and a no less sensual way of adressing topics very often times.

Nobody gets a bitter taste with a candy, that´s for sure, but I think it´s far more effective to show overt sexuality by means of spoken word and mannerism than with tight clothing. Sure, if they come from both, even better!

Another good example of this is Tali. Sure, she´s not the same as Morrigan or Miranda who are clear; but by means of the way she talks, the way she moves and even the way she hold´s Sheppard´s hands, the tone and intent of her words is clear, very clear; and tremendously cute at the same time.

Thats exactly what I stated a few days ago...SUBTLE is sexy too.     You don't have to let it all hang out..to be sexy.    Leaving something to the imagination works too. 

[Wicked 702]

I considered what I said. I don't think any of it was controversial or offensive. If you have a differing opinion feel free to debate the points and we can have a discussion.

[Feraele]

Panderfringe wrote...

Yes it does. Unless you are completely incapable of reading the tone of a sentence. In which case there's probably some centre of learning you could probably learn something from?

Works better with little emotey faces. ;P

[Panderfringe]

Celrath wrote...

Panderfringe wrote...

Yes it does. Unless you are completely incapable of reading the tone of a sentence. In which case there's probably some centre of learning you could probably learn something from?

Sure It dose, Just keep telling yourself that

Sardonicism, sarcasm's older, better read brother.

[Dark Lilith]

It justs turns it so women feel they have to "repress" their sexuality.

OMFG!!!!  this is so hilarious I couldn't pass it up. OH yes,scimpty clothing in a game makes me repress my sexuality!!!!

[Seagloom]

Well, Panderfringe, while you may have a point about sarcasm, do realize many people will not pick up on it on the internet. Trying to be witty or making a joke your intended audience is unlikely to understand makes the entire exercise fairly pointless.

[Panderfringe]

Dark Lilith wrote...

It justs turns it so women feel they have to "repress" their sexuality.

OMFG!!!!  this is so hilarious I couldn't pass it up. OH yes,scimpty clothing in a game makes me repress my sexuality!!!!

No, we're talking about actual repression like wearing a hiqab.