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[Erucolindo]

I decided to start this tread as a little non-bitter, non-hostile nudge to Bioware to release a patch for Awakenings that fixes the bugs found in the game. Most people have completed the expansion, even with the bugs, but I have chosen stop at what i'm guessing is about or around half way to allow time for those bugs to be fixed. I would really really like to play the game again.

Bugs I have:

Companions give 100% approval once they offically join me. This happened with two companions, and they were different then the companions reported by others with the same bug. It's already really easy to up approval rating. The ones that the bug didn't effect were still up towards 100 pretty quick. Except for Oggy. Even though he knows me from the previous game, he not only started at neutral, but I don't get many opportunities to raise his as I do with others.

Texture bug with Vilgilance: Now I admit, this bug doesn't effect anything, I still find it really annoying to play the game having to look at the wrong texture when the right one is so awesome, and wanted to fight the rest of the game with the correct texture. I know that I can disable Warden's Keep, but I didn't want to risk other problems that that might cause.

Please, if you also have some bugs, even similar ones to mine, post them as a civil, non-bitter reminder:)

[Ygolnac]

You are really lucky



I can't use Velanna at all



Sigurd, Oghren, Justice and Anders personal quests are broken



I have lost all my equipment in silverite mine



Half of the sidequests at vigil's keep are broken



BW, patch the game already!!!

[Victor Wachter]

I can't talk details at the moment, but there is another update in the works. We've all been working to compile issues and QA and the dev team have been in bug triage continuously to decide on the contents of the patch and what fixes it will contain.



I've been watching the tech forums more and more to at least get information on issues, even if I don't have a ready fix for them. I'd encourage you to post to the appropriate ones to talk in detail about any issues that are really annoying you. There are posts at the top of each that detail how to report bugs so we can get the best understanding of what's going on and enter them into the bug database. In most cases, we are aware of the issues you'd meet, but a full description, rather than "this thing is broken", is always helpful to making the fixes we can.

[tigrina]

If I may. First of all, Victor, I'm very glad that you decided to react on this ongoing discussion about the buggy patch/Awakenings. It might be a good idea to have some sticky or added to some sticky that the dev team is aware and working on a patch. Just for our information. It would be nice to have a 'go read this' pointer for all of the forumites. This post here just reveals that there is a patch in the making, it would be nice to have that in your sticky in tech about requesting more information. Most people seem to understand there is nothing done uptil now.

[Erucolindo]

Victor Wachter wrote...

I can't talk details at the moment, but there is another update in the works. We've all been working to compile issues and QA and the dev team have been in bug triage continuously to decide on the contents of the patch and what fixes it will contain.

I've been watching the tech forums more and more to at least get information on issues, even if I don't have a ready fix for them. I'd encourage you to post to the appropriate ones to talk in detail about any issues that are really annoying you. There are posts at the top of each that detail how to report bugs so we can get the best understanding of what's going on and enter them into the bug database. In most cases, we are aware of the issues you'd meet, but a full description, rather than "this thing is broken", is always helpful to making the fixes we can.

Thanks a lot of acknowledging it, it's good to know something is coming. I apologize if i put this in the wrong forum, but I didn't mean it to be a bug report so much as a, as i said, civil discussion about it. The bugs I have effect gameplay, but only superfically compared to others. It's good to know my wait won't be for nothing.

[CybAnt1]

The ones that seem to have cropped up most recently (and might not be on previous compendia of buglists).



1) approval increase seems to not be working right for companions (stuck at +5?), nor how they display their approval level, or grant approval-related bonuses. Some are getting an immediate +100 to approval on joining or first interaction.



2) PC trap dectection seems borked; apparently only NPCs now can find traps.



3) The complete Blackblade armor set appears not to be in the game. (This appears to be an end result of another bug, I think, the last High Dragon never dropping anything as loot.)

[Kurokaen]

I played Awakening on the PS3, and I had the immediate +100 approval from Justice and Sigrun, and I never could seem to loot the final pieces of the Blackblade armor set from the High Dragon... among other bugs. I love the game, but seriously... ack. x_x

Edit: Oh yeah, just recently realized that Vigilince was showing up as Starfang, too. As much as I don't mind the look of Starfang... Vigilince is epic, and I would seriously love it if it's appearance was correct.

A bit unrelated here, but: how come my trusty mabari wasn't with me in Awakening? He's a war dog, he should follow me everywhere! D= I can't even remember if the dog was mentioned at all... Hrm.

Modifié par Kurokaen, 21 avril 2010 - 05:59 .

[Loredis]

What's Awakenings?

[AntiChri5]

Kurokaen wrote...

I played Awakening on the PS3, and I had the immediate +100 approval from Justice and Sigrun, and I never could seem to loot the final pieces of the Blackblade armor set from the High Dragon... among other bugs. I love the game, but seriously... ack. x_x

yyyyyyyep.

My biggest problems are the Blackblade armour, that approval bork and weapon runes becoming armour runes.

[Awildawn]

Thanks for the answer Viktor.

[Onix Sunstone]

Just saying your working on somethnig will calm alot of people so well done Victor maybe make shure the team remeber this for furtrue issue.



The overall forum outlook on DAA is awfull due to the rumormill witch is fun to let run wild about the stories & expantions but when its bugs bioware realy need to assure people asap.

[CybAnt1]

Personally, I don't think they "owe" anybody what their future plans are for expansions, sequels, or plot development, however much we might like to hear news on it. But I'm sure there'll be something eventually.



I view patch plans as being more news they do sort of "owe" the community. Especially given the state of Awakening. And it's worse for the console owners, they can't even use the modfixes.

[Memmaatre]

Patch is needed as I´ve pointed out already in the thread about Wending Woods bug... not that it will do anything or change anything but I add my desperate claim for a patch also in this thread!

The game was released about a month ago and really... its not in a good shape! But as common as it is today - also this game could be saved with A PATCH .... ! Give it to me now, our precious... patch.

Modifié par Memmaatre, 15 avril 2010 - 02:23 .

[Wilall77]

I play on PS3. The obvious bugs are sentinal armor looking like the Warden Commander set and vigilance looking like starfang. As for the missing pieces of the Blackblade armor set, it would be a lot more useful if the were found in the Silverite Mines. Not being able to complete the joining with Sigrun and Velanna (if you do the Blackmarshes first) due to some glitch would also be a great fix.

[Haexpane]

Just so you guys get an idea what bug fixing is like. Our company launched a new app this year (we are not a software company but we have a bunch of apps we launch internally)



Post launch, we've had 50 change requests logged. We can only do 4 updates per year. Each update contains 5 changes max per system, unless the changes can be bundled.



Some back of the napkin math means = most things wont be changed/fixed/modified.

The most important ones will.



Sentinel/Vigilance graphics IMO are top of the list.

[TheMadCat]

Just so you guys get an idea what bug fixing is like. Our company
launched a new app this year (we are not a software company but we have
a bunch of apps we launch internally)



Post launch, we've
had 50 change requests logged. We can only do 4 updates per year. Each
update contains 5 changes max per system, unless the changes can be
bundled.

On the flip side of that though TaleWorlds, a company with about 3-5 people and a couple of grad student volunteers managed to crack out 4 patches in under two weeks for WarBand and arguably did more to improve their game in that short span than BioWare has done to improve Origins in almost 6 months. Yes I am aware Warband isn't on the same field in terms of complexity and it indeed had far more that needed improving than Origins. The point is there is no set standard for patch development and release, it is whatever amount of time and resources they decide to allocate to it. Unfortunatly though most companies just don't give it a whole lot of attention because it's a 100% net loss.

[BanditGR]

Victor Wachter wrote...

 There are posts at the top of each that detail how to report bugs so we can get the best understanding of what's going on and enter them into the bug database. In most cases, we are aware of the issues you'd meet, but a full description, rather than "this thing is broken", is always helpful to making the fixes we can.

There is a 37 (and counting) page thread about 1.03 patch issues and a 20 page thread about Awakening bugs in the tech forums. Both threads were started...a month ago. On top of this, there are specific threads detailing the more serious issues and relevant information (along with specific instructions on how to bypass issues) has been posted even on DA wikis. The information is out there and has been out there for a long time. With all due respect, certain issues are so obvious (for instance the 100% approval bugs) that no further explanation is required. It is actually as simple as saying feature X is...just broken. While we appreciate your response, a bit more detail on what issues are being worked on and a very rough timeframe on a patch release, would be more meaningful. Thanks.

[Feraele]

Kurokaen wrote...

I played Awakening on the PS3, and I had the immediate +100 approval from Justice and Sigrun, and I never could seem to loot the final pieces of the Blackblade armor set from the High Dragon... among other bugs. I love the game, but seriously... ack. x_x

Wait a minute...I am on PC, you mean to say that High dragon you kill just before you head to the Children and the Nest..is supposed to drop something??  O.o  

If so it never drops a thing..ever  I have played through there maybe four times so far...nada, no sparklie.   I always wondered about that...

If its not supposed to drop anything..and I am mistaken please let me know.

[Erucolindo]

Feraele wrote...

Kurokaen wrote...

I played Awakening on the PS3, and I had the immediate +100 approval from Justice and Sigrun, and I never could seem to loot the final pieces of the Blackblade armor set from the High Dragon... among other bugs. I love the game, but seriously... ack. x_x

Wait a minute...I am on PC, you mean to say that High dragon you kill just before you head to the Children and the Nest..is supposed to drop something??  O.o  

If so it never drops a thing..ever  I have played through there maybe four times so far...nada, no sparklie.   I always wondered about that...

If its not supposed to drop anything..and I am mistaken please let me know.

How long did you wait for the sparkle? I've noticed that sometimes it takes a good 20 seconds before it will let you loot some mobs. I"m glad I found out about this now. When they patch the game and I finish my first playthough, I will be able to look out for that.

Here is a question though that has bothered me? How are they going to fix the approval bug that knocks them to 100? I mean do they just revert them back to neutral? Cause that does seem fair considering all the opportunities to gain their approval that we come to as we play after that bug hit? Not to mention gifts that are already given. I've actually already done the Justice side quest for instance. So if they fix the bug, will I have to do it again? I truely fear that I'm gonna need to start from the begining again just because of that bug.

[Bullettear22]

the "I have lost all my equipment in silverite mine" bug reallt just ruined the game for me...

[0mar]

Haexpane wrote...

Just so you guys get an idea what bug fixing is like. Our company launched a new app this year (we are not a software company but we have a bunch of apps we launch internally)

Post launch, we've had 50 change requests logged. We can only do 4 updates per year. Each update contains 5 changes max per system, unless the changes can be bundled.

Some back of the napkin math means = most things wont be changed/fixed/modified.
The most important ones will.

Sentinel/Vigilance graphics IMO are top of the list.

Sounds like a ****ty app if you ask me. 

[joejoejoe]

Really after hours and hours of gameplay, playing on nightmare I have only had 1-2 deaths in party the entire game + xpac, dead ghost dragon, dead baroness, enter silverite mine and i only keep 2-3 saves around due to lack of death... after completeing all quests in the areas successfully and moving my saves into the silverite mine, little did I know I had LOST all my gear on my main (female elf rogue) whom I was quite proud of her 230+ backstabs, unable to get back, no previous saves prior to entering the mine, 4th test subject does not spawn... first is ogrens gear, then my 2 mages gear sets no 4th pop with my mains gear... chest at the end of the level is empty. Really if i lost a companions gear set I wouldnt be so pissed but either way this is garbage. Never in a single player rpg since before the first damn diablo have I lost all my gear save in serious MMO corpse loss bugs (in which case GM's replace your stuff). This is the absolute worst bug I have seen in any game in a very long time if not ever, and it has entirely ruined this expansion for me. A side quest or 2 uncompleteable due to a bug here and there is one thing on a new release, but loseing all the gear aquired for the main char throughout both games is just poor programming and hurried marketing, no excuse at all. People will say I should have more savegames, but noone should EXPECT a bug like this, I save based around tough fights or dialog options not bad programming. I have saves at the beginning, middle, and end of the area... the bug happens as you zone in and it autosaves, if you happen to save throughout the level over your previous without realizing this bug has happened your SOL. Fix yo chit.

[HighlandBerserkr]

Thanks for the update Viktor, but i am praying the PS3 gets this future patch as well

[Memmaatre]

Ok here is "my bug list" since Victor W has asked for details:

* Upon leaving the grand hall of  the citadel it left me standing in an almost empty "graphics glitch" with only a few items shown like some doors in the middle of a blue nothingness. Reloading did not help, had to restart the game. This happened twice.

* I found lots of old notes/information from the main game remaining in codex which felt confusing since most of them were not relevant to Awakening. Either there should be all of them (and none active!) or none of them. This small issue got me worried from the start;

*  Chasing a bad guy in the city and got interrupted since one of the party members found his missing sister -  it ended in a movie/fight (at thte same time) were I couldn´t do anything or interact at all - another restart

* Some minor issues as codex not updating though it says so and item/stat bugs

* Random crashes - back to desktop (belive it´s Win7 64bit related as probably the grapics bug above)

Finally - I really lost it in Wending woods and since then - I´m no longer able to venture forth...!
Cause the V girl is gone and the mine remains securlely locked so then I  turned to this message board for help;

However I cannot find any news  about an upcoming patch or any accnowledgment from BioWare (besides, patch for main game should have been possible to download from within game menu and not "hidden" within message board in my opinion).So I tried and signed up for the newsletter but haven´t got any so far. Give us a time table on an eventual patch, please! And kindly some explanation / your thoughts about the fact that a lot of people like myself, are finding it hard to even play the expansion because of the bugs..

Worth to mention is that I encountered no serious bugs during the main game so something is indeed different - my thought being that Awakening was rushed.

And as for content the expansion (so far I´ve played due to the bugs - is good but not great). Though you seldom see reviews of expansions that exceeds the main/original game in praise I believe that BioWare should be able (according to classics like BaldursGate .... and its role playing legacy) no - must be able and should live up to the past greatness even in expansions.  Until this happens;

I´m awaiting the patch... and some feedback from BioWare would ease our frustration until then.

Modifié par Memmaatre, 16 avril 2010 - 08:48 .