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Darth Hater wrote...

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its a shame that ms wont allow mods on the 360.

I would put the mod files on my 360 but don't want my console banned.


Are you talking about modding your saves like what most people are doing here? There is no way to get banned by doing what is described in this thread. Microsoft cannot detect modded saves for singleplayer games.


nah I think he is speaking about actually hardmodding your console.

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Darth Hater wrote...

Black Knight 2 wrote...

its a shame that ms wont allow mods on the 360.

I would put the mod files on my 360 but don't want my console banned.


Are you talking about modding your saves like what most people are doing here? There is no way to get banned by doing what is described in this thread. Microsoft cannot detect modded saves for singleplayer games.


Precisely.

This thread is 9 months old and nobody has been banned for the things this thread describes. Microsoft can't detect modded saves of single player games. Creating the scanning software to pick up such mods is very expensive so if you aren't affecting anyone elses experience they don't scan for you.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

Darth Hater wrote...

Black Knight 2 wrote...

its a shame that ms wont allow mods on the 360.

I would put the mod files on my 360 but don't want my console banned.


Are you talking about modding your saves like what most people are doing here? There is no way to get banned by doing what is described in this thread. Microsoft cannot detect modded saves for singleplayer games.


Precisely.

This thread is 9 months old and nobody has been banned for the things this thread describes. Microsoft can't detect modded saves of single player games. Creating the scanning software to pick up such mods is very expensive so if you aren't affecting anyone elses experience they don't scan for you.


but hardmodding doesn't affect anyone elses experience neither....sigh wished I could change my revenants color to black.... and change armor colors for squadies... so kool.

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But hardmodding digs into Microsoft's pockets and can be used to obtain things you'd otherwise have to pay for so they fit that under theft. I wish there was a way for hardmodding to be allowed within ethical limits but I don't see the human race changing its nature anytime soon.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

But hardmodding digs into Microsoft's pockets and can be used to obtain things you'd otherwise have to pay for so they fit that under theft. I wish there was a way for hardmodding to be allowed within ethical limits but I don't see the human race changing its nature anytime soon.


doesn't modding digs into BIoware's, and pretty much every single other companies pocket???

I mean alternative appereances with modding goes out the window amongst others.

Like with Star Wars empire at war, only reasonw hy I didn't bought the expansion forces of corruption is because there are plenty of huge mods available for free lol:bandit:

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Spartas Husky wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

But hardmodding digs into Microsoft's pockets and can be used to obtain things you'd otherwise have to pay for so they fit that under theft. I wish there was a way for hardmodding to be allowed within ethical limits but I don't see the human race changing its nature anytime soon.


doesn't modding digs into BIoware's, and pretty much every single other companies pocket???

I mean alternative appereances with modding goes out the window amongst others.

Like with Star Wars empire at war, only reasonw hy I didn't bought the expansion forces of corruption is because there are plenty of huge mods available for free lol:bandit:


Not this modding. I am not and cannot gain anything that I'd normally have to pay for through what this thread shows. The only thing I can gain from this thread are alternatives unavailable for purchase that extend how much I play the game and how much I enjoy it making me more likely to purchase future DLC and sequels so BioWare gains from what this thread shows.

I would have never played the game more than twice if i couldn't get around scanning for minerals and getting rid of the strict morality system requirements which would have kept me from buying the Kasumi DLC and all the DLC that followed. I wouldn't have been able to bring myself to care for the game again. I know I'm not the only one that feels this way about scanning for minerals and morality bars. The TIM eyes, colors, weapons and all the rest just add to the fun factor. I've now played ME2 over 20 times(ME1 about 30 times in its days) and am looking forward to all future ME products which I'll propperly pay for. So not only are we not digging in their pockets through what this thread shows but we are putting more money in their pockets.

I'd have thought you could figure that out on your own.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

But hardmodding digs into Microsoft's pockets and can be used to obtain things you'd otherwise have to pay for so they fit that under theft. I wish there was a way for hardmodding to be allowed within ethical limits but I don't see the human race changing its nature anytime soon.


doesn't modding digs into BIoware's, and pretty much every single other companies pocket???

I mean alternative appereances with modding goes out the window amongst others.

Like with Star Wars empire at war, only reasonw hy I didn't bought the expansion forces of corruption is because there are plenty of huge mods available for free lol:bandit:


Not this modding. I am not and cannot gain anything that I'd normally have to pay for through what this thread shows. The only thing I can gain from this thread are alternatives unavailable for purchase that extend how much I play the game and how much I enjoy it making me more likely to purchase future DLC and sequels so BioWare gains from what this thread shows.

I would have never played the game more than twice if i couldn't get around scanning for minerals and getting rid of the strict morality system requirements which would have kept me from buying the Kasumi DLC and all the DLC that followed. I wouldn't have been able to bring myself to care for the game again. I know I'm not the only one that feels this way about scanning for minerals and morality bars. The TIM eyes, colors, weapons and all the rest just add to the fun factor. I've now played ME2 over 20 times(ME1 about 30 times in its days) and am looking forward to all future ME products which I'll propperly pay for. So not only are we not digging in their pockets through what this thread shows but we are putting more money in their pockets.

I'd have thought you could figure that out on your own.


m3h I guess I disagree. I didn't buy any dlc's mostly because of my modding. If I can mod I dont need much else...  except for alternative appereance that one I did bought because garrus was an eyesore, everything else I got free from my roomate's liscense transfer.  I thank the day his xbox died that was the day I got a butt loads of free dlc's....sigh gota love loopholes.<3

Or maybe I am mixing apples and oranges, after all my first major modding was in ME2... most of the mods I have ever gotten were for pc... why pay for expansions when there are free mods with just as much length and story... then again that is for PC.

For example had I the resources to get this game on pc I would not have needed to buy the alternative appereance... dont know the extend of pc mods for ME2 but would have saved me the cash for garrus suit. Would not have needed my friend's dlcs for aegis... and I would get some sweet ME1 armor skins....sigh

Either way one thing we agree, mods extend the lifespan of this game.

Modifié par Spartas Husky, 04 janvier 2011 - 06:44 .


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cool been looking for things like this ill just have to buy a memory stick now

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Does anyone know how to mod Armour?

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Black Knight 2 wrote...

Does anyone know how to mod Armour?


Well, you can change which armor you have on with the Save editor. It's under the raw tab/player/appearences I believe (off the top of my head). Anything other then that can't be done with Gibbed's, and the concept of HEX editing is only useful for a limited time in the game. 

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Darth Hater wrote...

Black Knight 2 wrote...

Does anyone know how to mod Armour?


Well, you can change which armor you have on with the Save editor. It's under the raw tab/player/appearences I believe (off the top of my head). Anything other then that can't be done with Gibbed's, and the concept of HEX editing is only useful for a limited time in the game. 


Actually hex is more of a permanent solution for things like ammo.

Now why would you want to mod armour... if your speaking as if change the way it looks I have no idea. Probably under appereances.

Now colors and the like I am not sure. I am still looking to see if I can change the lights on the armor to a different color... tired of seeing the same blue all the time

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Spartas Husky wrote...


Actually hex is more of a permanent solution for things like ammo.

Now why would you want to mod armour... if your speaking as if change the way it looks I have no idea. Probably under appereances.

Now colors and the like I am not sure. I am still looking to see if I can change the lights on the armor to a different color... tired of seeing the same blue all the time



Yeah was looking at changing armour. know how to do it on pc just was not sure if it was possible on 360

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Black Knight 2 wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...


Actually hex is more of a permanent solution for things like ammo.

Now why would you want to mod armour... if your speaking as if change the way it looks I have no idea. Probably under appereances.

Now colors and the like I am not sure. I am still looking to see if I can change the lights on the armor to a different color... tired of seeing the same blue all the time



Yeah was looking at changing armour. know how to do it on pc just was not sure if it was possible on 360


well, if is anything as is to change weapons colors as I saw in the femshep thread with black revenants and darker vindicators. Then no it probably wont be able to be done in console.

Now what exactly you want to do, change the skins like adding the ME1 heavy armor to your shep?. Things like that no I dont think is possible on console.

But if is colors more detailed I think so.... I mean you can change the color of eye and skins under appereances so I think it should be able to be done. Play around with the values see what you get.

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this thread needs to be sticky :P

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im not sure i understand. i can change stuff in my game like infinite ammo? or make it so i can recruit people out of order tali before garrus?

and i cant get banned for doing this or get sued?

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StarGateGod wrote...

im not sure i understand. i can change stuff in my game like infinite ammo? or make it so i can recruit people out of order tali before garrus?
and i cant get banned for doing this or get sued?



Let me put it as clear as I can. IMHO

Yes this is in breach of rules since your are modifying without permission.

Now the resources needed to track this kind of modding would be far too big and the reward is nothing, so companies dont really care. Is like modding pc games, there is nothing companies gain by chasing small mods.

NOW IF somebody were to mod any game on any console and benefit from it financially, you bet your ass the company will drop their lawyers on them faster than light. But aside from that there is no fear in modding.

1st. Modding extends the life of the game and makes the game more fun, most likely to make you buy future versions sequels etc.

2nd. Any mod that becomes wide spread.... in example Fallout 3 pc weapon custom mod was incredibly popular and while the mod was free, Bethesda realized the idea was gold and installed it on Fallout Las Vegas and passed it as their own, so the company stole an idea and passed it as theirs. Can the guy who originally thought of it for fallout 3 complain ...no because he wasn't suppose to be modding in the first place.

So in conclusion the reward from mods are greater than to ban them all together, there is little chance of someone trying to benefit from them because the law is against them, but the posibility is always there that some tech savy fan will come up with a great idea. After which the company repackages the sequel adds the idea and they make money.

So ...technically and by law... yeah u can get sued... but why should they, your not benefitting financially, and as long as your not stealing potential financial avenues from Ea or Bioware they wont give a damn about what you do with your game.


Now if any of this is a lie, or the law doesn't really state u can get sued, then correct me by all means I am just speaking from the top of my head here.

PS: Been modding since..................................................oblivion elder scrolls, think it was 4 came out. Fallout 3, resident evil, gears, Modern warfare 1......ME2.....and a whole bunch of pc games I dont care to name :P

Modifié par Spartas Husky, 07 janvier 2011 - 06:06 .


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StarGateGod wrote...

im not sure i understand. i can change stuff in my game like infinite ammo? or make it so i can recruit people out of order tali before garrus?
and i cant get banned for doing this or get sued?


1) You aren't obtaining anything you'd have to pay for nor can you through what this thread shows.

2) In order to detect you Microsoft and XBL would have to spend a lot of money to develop a scanner that detects Mass Effect 2 mods but....

3) You aren't affecting anyone else's gameplay experience(ie you aren't pawning in multiplayer or topping leaderboards with the aid of mods)...this would cause the game and all involved with it to lose more customers and income than there are people modding so modders become expendable.

4) You aren't modding gamerscore....this falls under the same category as 3 as gamersore is something that gamers compete over and modding it disheartens potential customers. Sure the mods might aid you in gaining an achievement or two by making the game easier but that isn't a big enough deal to ban over.....bans over gamerscore modding happens for giving yourself tens and hundreds of thousands of points.

5) at the end of the day you're a paying customer that gained nothing but fun from these mods which make you more likely to buy more like it......banning people like you and me would be bad for business.

6) Suing is extremely rare.....they only sew people when they are after something they don't yet have the full legal freedom to do so they make an example out of a person or two in hopes of setting case precedents so they can start taking a certain kind of action. Lawsuits are long and expensive so for the most part they don't want any more than they already have at any point as most of the time it's the gamers that sue the companies over small crap. If they did try to take you to court the judge is more likely to kick them out before it even begins because they don't have standing.....meaning they haven't suffered any kind of loss due to your actions nor can they from actions such as what this thread shows. The most they can do is ban but they won't.....not over something like this.

7) Look how long this thread has been around.....it used to be a sticky for several months and now there's a sticky leading to it.....on the boards of the company that made the game. Do you think that BioWare would allow it if anything in here conflicted with their interests? You can carefully read every post of the 100+ pages so far and you'll find nobody was banned over this in nearly a year now.....and this kind of modding was possible before I made this thread. So yeah.....you're quite safe doing what this thread shows.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 07 janvier 2011 - 07:13 .


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Completely forgot and 50 pages... just not more reading :P.

I been trying to get an autosave or a save of some sort at the beginning of the game without sucess.

A- anyone knows how to get one?
B- is really to find out the ID for the N7 alliance armor... want to wear it on console

or anyone far wiser than me can just say.... can't do it on console.

thanks.

PS: think this has been said but... you can't change squadies skins on console right, as in give miranda some damn armor.... mostly jack really but wth :P???

Modifié par Spartas Husky, 08 janvier 2011 - 04:27 .


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I am having issues with my saves. Modded and those that have never left my hardrive.



When I start a game I can never get beyond a certain number save. Furthest I been able to go is to thane. But for some reason saves suddenly become corrupted.



In example: I started a new sentinel and when it got to the number 18 save it frooze. Even when I erased all saves except #1 from the lazarus station it always happens I dont know why.



Have started a sentinel, soldier and adept passed it all together a number of 6 times up to the point it freezes. Not sure why... when I check the save in hex editor there is nothing there... is empty lol.



uninstalled dlc's re downloaded them all. Cleared system cache updated again.




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Hmmm.....no idea but it sounds pretty bad. Is this just one Shepard? Try creating a new playthrough and putting one of this Shepard's saves in its character folder and keep playing. My guess is that the character save folder has become corrupted somehow.

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its pretty bad yes. Posted something on the tech forum because EVERYTHING, even my very very old pure saves have started to give me trouble.... I have no idea why.



Found that every single career cannot exceed 16 separate save files... not sure. I can have save 1 be #20... I can't go beyond number 36 or it locks up. And when I go beyond horizon it suddenly corrupts the last save. But when I check it on the memory on the dashboard the xbox doesn't say the game is corrupted. yet when I extract the saves using modio the 16 save or w/e in hex editor is empty... like really blank.



have tried everything but only thing that has changed from those 5 months old saves and these.... are the hex editting and the shadow broker. tried all night not modding in any way and still presents the same problem. tried modding some, and still.



only thing left is erase the shadow broker, and staart a new career without it see how it works.



Btw when you say "Try creating a new playthrough and putting one of this Shepard's saves in its character folder and keep playing"



Do you mean as in inserting a save from the sentinel that is locking up... in a new sentinel?

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Yes that's what I mean. Also it looks as though the folder(s) containing your character saves may also be corrupted so back up what you haven't already to your PC, delete the entire Mass Effect 2 folder from your storage device, start a new game(this will create a new folder) and then import an individaual save from your old sentinel into your new sentinel and recover your other character profiles into the new Mass Effect 2 folder on your storage device too.



It beats me as to why you'd even want more than 16 individual saves for one character though.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

Yes that's what I mean. Also it looks as though the folder(s) containing your character saves may also be corrupted so back up what you haven't already to your PC, delete the entire Mass Effect 2 folder from your storage device, start a new game(this will create a new folder) and then import an individaual save from your old sentinel into your new sentinel and recover your other character profiles into the new Mass Effect 2 folder on your storage device too.

It beats me as to why you'd even want more than 16 individual saves for one character though.


well i dont I usually just use 10 saves throughout the game... but sometimes I pass misisons and forget to erase old ones.

Now when you mean deleting the ME2 folder.

My soldiers are already backed into my pc always have been. But my hardrive holds all my dlc's. Do I transfer all those things to my ipod? or I have to completely erase everything including the dlc's?


Updated:
Still the 16 mark is before horizon. After it it happens at any given moment. Might happen when I try to save or when it loads a new area. Usually it happens when I am about to enter the room where Tali is... It happens right after I recruit Thane, and I try to go toa new system.
Right after horizon if I try to save sometimes it just locks up... dont know man this is pissing me off so much.

This is what I did from what I gathered from you.

Copied all the dlc's to my ipod.
Erased the entire ME2 file all the dlc's inside went with it.

I am going to start a new career by importing a pure copy of ME1 soldier and make a sentinel.

To this new career I will inject the save 23 of my previous sentinel were the save 23 is at the beginning of horizon.

Will see if I can save 16 different files.... if so will see if it freezes afterwards.

I would not mind if is just 16 files, after all ME1 only has 10 saves you can play with. My issue is that after horizon it might lock up randomly...<_<:(

Modifié par Spartas Husky, 11 janvier 2011 - 01:47 .


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I wasn't referring to your DLCs. But sure, you can remove those and recover them after making the game create a new folder. At any rate yes I believe your saves will keep corrupting after you have 16 different ones(when they get over 1MB in size) around.....placing them in different character folders is a workaround not a fix. I don't know if the number of character saves has any similar issue but it's probably be safer to keep them spread on multiple storage devices.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

I wasn't referring to your DLCs. But sure, you can remove those and recover them after making the game create a new folder. At any rate yes I believe your saves will keep corrupting after you have 16 different ones(when they get over 1MB in size) around.....placing them in different character folders is a workaround not a fix. I don't know if the number of character saves has any similar issue but it's probably be safer to keep them spread on multiple storage devices.


wait the size is a problem????

I recall seeing the size just under 900k before recruiting jack, but after horizon for some reason it skyrockets to 2mb.... it always lock at that size... is that why?

I am confused here maybe you can explain to me why a save of a soldier who passed the entire game plus dlc is just under 950kb. yet my Sentinel who just got passed horizon suddenly goes from 900k to 2mb?