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[KotOREffecT]

tonnactus wrote...
The mainstory was pure crap.

You haters are a vocal minority who troll various topics spewing your bs hate for the story in ME 2, like for example, the ever so over-used "it was all about the characters only", not even realising that there was an actual story to ME 2 and the continuing story archs from ME 1 like the Genophage/Quarians etc. And that the characters played a good part to the story like TIM, the Collectors/Reaper struggle, Shepard, etc. Not to mention the many great story moments like the Normandy reborn, Lazarus project,etc ME 2 was a bridge, and a pretty damn good one at that.

[Drakron]

askanec wrote...

How is anyone able to independently verify the sales figure, unless an industrial spy is sent to check it out, or a hacker break into Bioware's corporate network and snoop around their marketing department database, or someone sues Bioware and subpoena their sales figures?

NPD does, it tracks sales of affiliated members but it cannot track sales outside their system.

Also those number exist however they not public avaible, that data is only avaible to PAYING members as few companies actually made the numbers public (notable NPD and MediaCreate) since ... well, you think the infrastructe to collect and process data is going to be free (MediaCreate only makes the top 10 public, for the FULL list you need to be a paying member) and that is what they do .... collect, store, analyze and sell data.

Also how the hell could EA (EA , not BioWare ... BioWare have NEVER published a game in their entire history and so never dealt directly with the production and sales of their gamaes) track numbers of the actual sale of retailers? what they usually register as a sale is a sale to a retailer, they only process a sale to the public as one that goes by their own store (meaning EA own store) as they will not gain automatic access to retailers inventory systems.

EA selling 6.6 million units to retailers is quite diferent that those retailers having also sold 6.6 million, I see no indication that ME2 sold their inicial shipment.

Also you know what sold 6.6 million? the 7th highest sold PS2 game ... Final Fantasy X ... are going to tell me that a Xbox 360 game sold as MUCH as THE FIRST FINAL FANTASY GAME FOR THE PLAYSTATION 2 DURING ITS ENTIRE LIFE (According to Square-Enix that given that number when talking about FF X-2)?

[Drakron]

KotOREffecT wrote...

You haters

"Haters" = strike 1.

are a vocal minority

"Vocal Minority"
>implying there is a non vocal majority that you represent, I just love when people try to pull this stunt off.

Strike 2.

who troll various topics spewing your bs hate for the story in ME 2,

"having a diferent opinion that mine that is naturally the ABSOLUTE TRUTH makes you a troll"

Strike 3 and you are out.

like for example, the ever so over-used "it was all about the characters only",

It IS pretty much about the characters onky, not that is a bad thing IF they continue into ME3.

not even realising that there was an actual story to ME 2 and the continuing story archs from ME 1 like the Genophage/Quarians etc.

OK to start background information does not equal story arc ... at best those were plot devices (Wrex and the genophage) but HARDY qualifies then as a story arc (something you have no idea what it is, maybe you should check wikipedia entry on it).

And that the characters played a good part to the story like TIM, the Collectors/Reaper struggle, Shepard, etc.

Now, you only named TWO characters ... the Illusive Man and Shepard and ... one of then is actually your character.

Can you be more ignorant? after all you put "Collectors/Reaper struggle" as a CHARACTER that is not only incorrect (since its a plot or THE plot to be more correct in ME2) but also shows are grasping at straws as The Illusive Man serves to advance the plot (go there, do this) as its NOT about him as the Collectors are just there as the antagonist for the "main story".

Not to mention the many great story moments like the Normandy reborn, Lazarus project,etc ME 2 was a bridge, and a pretty damn good one at that.

Well I guess you CAN be more ignorant, the SR-2 is not the Normandy reborn ... ITS A NEW SHIP NAMED NORMANDY, NOT BUILD FROM THE REAMINS OF THE OLD ONE (THAT would make it "reborn" but since we see it scattered in DLC its not) and no, its not a great story moment as ... did anyone expected NOT getting a starship as the Lazarus project is what called a plot device, character is dead and have be brought back ... of course character WAS killed at the start and its not like we did not expected for THAT to happen as well.

There are some good story elements, like Mordin and Legion that are fan favorites for good reasons.

ME2 is a lost opportunity to advance the main plot, ME 2 is a side show that advances very little on the real threat, the Reapers.

THAT is a very valid critism on ME2 story, its a side show featuring the Collectors and what is advanced on the game could been done without having devoted the game to a string of recruitment missions + character specific quest.

Of couse THAT is a opinion.

[Captain Iglo]

Masticetobbacco wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

wow, i hope 6.6 million units is true. I know ME2 sold 2million+ units in its first 2 weeks, so 6million, while extremely impressive, is possible.

i personally am skeptical because i think if bioware was making such record breaking sales numbers they would be making official announcements to the world about how awesome ME2 is selling.

regardless of the current sales numbers, congratulations to the biowares!

if 6.6 million units were sold, we'd have some nice priced DLC right now, because no sane Shareholder company would let slip the chance of 6,6 million possible buyers for dlc!

Fixed that for you

[tonnactus]

KotOREffecT wrote...
 that there was an actual story to ME 2 and the continuing story archs from ME 1 like the Genophage/Quarians etc.

That is side story that could become important in the third part.

And that the characters played a good part to the story like TIM,

 
Yes,great.Shepardt as a dumb puppet of the illusive man was great,even as a sole survior.I like the less freedom Mass Effect gaves me when it comes to missions and recruitments.

the Collectors/Reaper struggle

Yes, it make really sense to transform humanoid collectors into insects.They could take every other lifeform for that,but why take the easy way when the complicated is so much better.

[aksoileau]

"""Well I guess you CAN be more ignorant, the SR-2 is not the Normandy reborn ... ITS A NEW SHIP NAMED NORMANDY, NOT BUILD FROM THE REAMINS OF THE OLD ONE"""



Quote isn't working but this argument is weak. The soundtrack for the SR2 is called "the Normandy reborn," so be an ass somewhere else.

[SithLordExarKun]

Drakron wrote...



ME2 is a lost opportunity to advance the main plot, ME 2 is a side show that advances very little on the real threat, the Reapers.

THAT is a very valid critism on ME2 story, its a side show featuring the Collectors and what is advanced on the game could been done without having devoted the game to a string of recruitment missions + character specific quest.

Of couse THAT is a opinion.

The same can be said for the empire strikes back... yet it is considered by many to be the best star wars movie.

ME2 and TESB were more of a character driven plot than an actual one like the first..

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 20 avril 2010 - 01:13 .