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[OurSacrifice]

This is supposed to be the spirtual successor to Baldur's Gate?  Really?  To me, it just seems like a game created to simply try and mesh a formula that works for a popular MMO with a single player game.  Having to manage aggro with 4 characters, having to deal with combat scenarios that aren't even properly balanced, having to deal with NPCs that are supposed to help, but instead opt to stand in FIRE they created only to die in 4 seconds without you being able to ask them to move away ... it's all just sloppy.

Bioware, your games have always been fun, they've always been engaging and interested from the opening scene to the final credits.  But this game - just doesn't cut it.  The combat is terrible, the balance is incredibly poor, overwhelming odds, in a game that's just completely about getting smashed to pieces just isn't a concept for fun.

BG had some very minor trial and error combat, but with a knowledge of the ruleset you could almost always go into an encounter and walk away victorious, not because it was an easy game, but because it was properly balanced to allow the player a small amount of freedom in their party choices.  This game however, is 100% trial and error, with a RNG component added in to artifically increase a difficulty that's already not properly balanced for a standard party.  Sure you could stack tanks & mages and blast through encounters with mass AoE like you're running a raid in World of Warcraft, but there's absolutely no fun gameplay elements in a boring concept like that.

If *this* is the "polished" product that PC users had to wait 1/2 a year longer for, then I'm literally sick to my stomach thinking what the product was like before this layer of polish was added to the game.  You've taken the concept of micromanaging your characters to a level that just isn't FUN.  I don't want to hit the spacebar every other second to make sure my characters are doing what they're supposed to be doing.  I don't want to have to do stupid tactics like running my tank in and kiting enemies around like an idiot while my ranged pummel them.  That's not an interesting, or even remotely enjoyable gameplay experience.  But, since I also don't want to go into a battle and steamroll the enemy, there's no middle ground offered at the moment.

You're game is broken, it's not enjoyable, and I so dearly wish I could get a refund from you or EA for being a beta tester for a micro-management simulator.  Going back and watching gameplay videos and video reviews you can clearly tell it was played on easy - which is pretty pathetic considering your history of games.  But, I guess that's what happens when you become larger than life and swallowed up by EA.  You start churning out crap instead of the jewels that you were once widely known for.

Thanks for the memories - I tried to be optimistic about DA:O, but you failed to deliver.

[Rellucs]

Maybe you just suck. Yeah, I think that's it.

[brgillespie]

"I don't want to have to do stupid tactics like running my tank in and kiting enemies around like an idiot while my ranged pummel them. That's not an interesting, or even remotely enjoyable gameplay experience."



With that mindset, you're playing the wrong, WRONG game. Take this as a lesson to research the gameplay of any future purchases. While you're waiting for Diablo III, take a look at Torchlight. It's available on Steam right now for $20.

[GhoXen]

Difficulty Complaint Thread #6781

[Malecite00]

L2P noob, I would post something more constructive, but as the above poster said this is the billionth time a frustrated new player, who refuses to adapt to the games system, shows up and makes a rant post about it.

[OurSacrifice]

brgillespie wrote...

"I don't want to have to do stupid tactics like running my tank in and kiting enemies around like an idiot while my ranged pummel them. That's not an interesting, or even remotely enjoyable gameplay experience."

With that mindset, you're playing the wrong, WRONG game. Take this as a lesson to research the gameplay of any future purchases. While you're waiting for Diablo III, take a look at Torchlight. It's available on Steam right now for $20.

It was never once a required tactic in any previous Bioware game, nor was it ever mentioned as a requirement or even highly recommended tactic in any Bioware communication or review (because the reviewers played on easy).

No real Bioware fan in their right mind would conclude prior to the games launch that running your tank in circles while the enemies chased him just so you could have a shot at some of the battles would be something you'd have to do.

[Ralsar]

This is a tactical combat game. Many of the encounters requires careful planning. You should have known that before you bought the game.



Sorry you bought the wrong game.

[Xalm Grey]

Malecite00 wrote...

L2P noob, I would post something more constructive, but as the above poster said this is the billionth time a frustrated new player, who refuses to adapt to the games system, shows up and makes a rant post about it.

Yeah god forbid you'd take a moment to consider with this many complaints that maybe, just maybe there's something worth complaining about? Alot of people feel let down by this game. Who are you to say we should conform to any way of playing?

[_Jexter_]

You can always try Easy Mode, that is why it is there so you do not have to worry about friendly fire.

[carlitto86]

cheer up emoboy

[Ralsar]

OurSacrifice wrote...
It was never once a required tactic in any previous Bioware game, nor was it ever mentioned as a requirement or even highly recommended tactic in any Bioware communication or review (because the reviewers played on easy).

No real Bioware fan in their right mind would conclude prior to the games launch that running your tank in circles while the enemies chased him just so you could have a shot at some of the battles would be something you'd have to do.

We knew what type of combat would be in this game for years.

[Ashbery]

Lol what a load of rubbish.The combat in BG2 was just as hard and tactical than in DA.I love the combat personally and is one of the main reasons I was hyped for this game.



PLAY ON EASY

[Xalm Grey]

It was never once a required tactic in any previous Bioware game, nor was it ever mentioned as a requirement or even highly recommended tactic in any Bioware communication or review (because the reviewers played on easy).

No real Bioware fan in their right mind would conclude prior to the games launch that running your tank in circles while the enemies chased him just so you could have a shot at some of the battles would be something you'd have to do.

You aren't alone man. Just ignore the snobs on these forums. And there are alot. They'll preach about how nightmare is easy mode and "L2p". Bioware is gearing up to let their forums go the way of WoW's forums. Rampant flaming and name calling galore. Its not the Bioware we knew. Their old forums were never like this.

[OurSacrifice]

Ralsar wrote...

OurSacrifice wrote...
It was never once a required tactic in any previous Bioware game, nor was it ever mentioned as a requirement or even highly recommended tactic in any Bioware communication or review (because the reviewers played on easy).

No real Bioware fan in their right mind would conclude prior to the games launch that running your tank in circles while the enemies chased him just so you could have a shot at some of the battles would be something you'd have to do.

We knew what type of combat would be in this game for years.

No you didn't.  Not once was there ever a thread/discussion on having to kiting enemies in circles while mages fired on them.  Not once was there a discussion about the most VIABLE party in the game being 4 mages since they can wear heavy armor as well.  Not once was there a discussion that AI controlled NPCs trying to help you in battles would just stand in fire taking uncontrollable damage, instead of backing away 10 steps and letting enemies come to them.  Not once was there a discussion about anything brought up in my original post.

Modifié par OurSacrifice, 09 novembre 2009 - 01:10 .

[artmonster1967]

Xalm Grey wrote...


You aren't alone man. Just ignore the snobs on these forums. And there are alot. They'll preach about how nightmare is easy mode and "L2p". Bioware is gearing up to let their forums go the way of WoW's forums. Rampant flaming and name calling galore. Its not the Bioware we knew. Their old forums were never like this.

have fun with your new reach around friend.

you two can discuss your frustrations together.


glad you found somebody finally.

[OctopusRush]

Please take no offense OP as well as the above poster, but you are asking Bioware to change the exact thing we were looking for in the game and enjoy. If you don't enjoy that, cool, but the rest of us do. Instead of asking Bioware to change the game to your liking - the only game in recent memory to answer the hunger of this fanbase - find another game as you, unlike us, have plenty of choice.

[OurSacrifice]

Xalm Grey wrote...

It was never once a required tactic in any previous Bioware game, nor was it ever mentioned as a requirement or even highly recommended tactic in any Bioware communication or review (because the reviewers played on easy).

No real Bioware fan in their right mind would conclude prior to the games launch that running your tank in circles while the enemies chased him just so you could have a shot at some of the battles would be something you'd have to do.

You aren't alone man. Just ignore the snobs on these forums. And there are alot. They'll preach about how nightmare is easy mode and "L2p". Bioware is gearing up to let their forums go the way of WoW's forums. Rampant flaming and name calling galore. Its not the Bioware we knew. Their old forums were never like this.

It's a by-product of them caring less for the community and more about churnning out a cash cow with odd marketing strategies - ever since the EA buyout.

I bet 99% of the people on these forums praising the game and saying "L2P" never once played a BioWare game prior to Mass Effect.

[Xalm Grey]

artmonster1967 wrote...

Xalm Grey wrote...


You aren't alone man. Just ignore the snobs on these forums. And there are alot. They'll preach about how nightmare is easy mode and "L2p". Bioware is gearing up to let their forums go the way of WoW's forums. Rampant flaming and name calling galore. Its not the Bioware we knew. Their old forums were never like this.

have fun with your new reach around friend.

you two can discuss your frustrations together.


glad you found somebody finally.

See you picked me out of all the posts. Miss me? Atleast with you trolling my posts it keeps the threads bumped up making them easier to find.

[fairandbalancedfan]

OMG! It's another complaint about the game. I did not see this one coming.

[Shplane]

I have never done any "Running my tank in circles" or any of that. I play on Normal. My primary DPS is neither a mage nor anyone with a bow: It is my dual-wielding berserker/champion.

EDIT: Seriously, my tank usually just stays in one place.

Modifié par Shplane, 09 novembre 2009 - 01:15 .

[artmonster1967]

OurSacrifice wrote...

Xalm Grey wrote...

It was never once a required tactic in any previous Bioware game, nor was it ever mentioned as a requirement or even highly recommended tactic in any Bioware communication or review (because the reviewers played on easy).

No real Bioware fan in their right mind would conclude prior to the games launch that running your tank in circles while the enemies chased him just so you could have a shot at some of the battles would be something you'd have to do.

You aren't alone man. Just ignore the snobs on these forums. And there are alot. They'll preach about how nightmare is easy mode and "L2p". Bioware is gearing up to let their forums go the way of WoW's forums. Rampant flaming and name calling galore. Its not the Bioware we knew. Their old forums were never like this.

It's a by-product of them caring less for the community and more about churnning out a cash cow with odd marketing strategies - ever since the EA buyout.

I bet 99% of the people on these forums praising the game and saying "L2P" never once played a BioWare game prior to Mass Effect.

ooooo....

so wise.

and omnipotent..lol

.

[chasethesunset]

OurSacrifice wrote...

brgillespie wrote...

"I don't want to have to do stupid tactics like running my tank in and kiting enemies around like an idiot while my ranged pummel them. That's not an interesting, or even remotely enjoyable gameplay experience."

With that mindset, you're playing the wrong, WRONG game. Take this as a lesson to research the gameplay of any future purchases. While you're waiting for Diablo III, take a look at Torchlight. It's available on Steam right now for $20.

It was never once a required tactic in any previous Bioware game, nor was it ever mentioned as a requirement or even highly recommended tactic in any Bioware communication or review (because the reviewers played on easy).

No real Bioware fan in their right mind would conclude prior to the games launch that running your tank in circles while the enemies chased him just so you could have a shot at some of the battles would be something you'd have to do.

What? BioWare isn't allowed to branch out and do things differently? They have to stick to what they used to do?
To me, BioWare is known for good story, and this game has it. Personally I like the combat. It's challenging enough you can't just run in bash something on the head and it's dead, but it's not so hard that it isn't fun.
I tire of RPGs with brainless combat. Is it so much to ask for a game like Dragon Age: Origins that has a great story and fun/challenging combat? 

[WildstarGoethe]

Are you sure you truly played BG or BG2, OP? Or are you confusing them with Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance? The combat in this game is very similar to BG 1 and 2 and the Icewind Dale games. I'm sorry you don't like the game, but you should have known what kind of game you'd be getting.

[Xalm Grey]

OctopusRush wrote...

Please take no offense OP as well as the above poster, but you are asking Bioware to change the exact thing we were looking for in the game and enjoy. If you don't enjoy that, cool, but the rest of us do. Instead of asking Bioware to change the game to your liking - the only game in recent memory to answer the hunger of this fanbase - find another game as you, unlike us, have plenty of choice.

What i don't understand is why they cannot add the AI in that they had from previous newer titles like ME. You are still free and clear to turn off tactics and do whatever you want with your team. The other people who however do not care for that kind of play are then too happy. Why is that such a harrowing concept for the BG players? God forbid anyone that doesn't care for that one paticular style of play could enjoy the game.

[OurSacrifice]

WildstarGoethe wrote...

Are you sure you truly played BG or BG2, OP? Or are you confusing them with Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance? The combat in this game is very similar to BG 1 and 2 and the Icewind Dale games. I'm sorry you don't like the game, but you should have known what kind of game you'd be getting.

Nothing in this game mimics the old Infinity Engine games, except for pause combat - and even THAT is a step down from what the old IE games had.