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Jallard

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After several attempts it is sad to come to the end of the Awakening only to be defeated each time by the Brood Mother. [Don't want to make the game easy do we!?! The Maker forbid!] I know not the secret to killing the Brood Mother. Lyrium is not plentiful and getting the Mages to even drink the stuff, during the battle, is an act of Congress. You actually run out of Mana each and everytime you use a single spell: any spell. Meanwhile,  you have vicious tenticles with sharp spikes peppering you as well as those cursed Grubddy bastards. The others seem to fight like they are still on Level One. Then there is the Brood Mother's spit to contend with. Such is how games are made these days?!?
It's a joy to play, but you can never really win. Anyone have any answers?

Modifié par Jallard, 16 avril 2010 - 12:02 .


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On the far right behind some boulders behind a vine on the ground is where you should stand, the tentacles can't reach you, only caveat is that you have to use ranged dps to kill her. and still plenty of pots.

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To quote myself:



"The tentacles are the key to the fight. If you just don't nuke everything down that is. If you get the tentacles down to very low health they curl up and stop attacking, however, if you kill a tentacle more children spawns.



So, the best tactic seems to be to kill any children currently up. When there is no children, get one tentacle at a time down to low health, but not kill it. When all tentacles are curled up, go for the mother. No more children should spawn."

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watch out for a blue circle on the floor centered on your healer/mage. This drains you of all the blue you've got. Just move the character away from this spot and use a lyrium potion...sorted

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BananaCustard wrote...

watch out for a blue circle on the floor centered on your healer/mage. This drains you of all the blue you've got. Just move the character away from this spot and use a lyrium potion...sorted


And what the Custard says ^_^

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Thanks for the tips.

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Jallard wrote...

Lyrium is not plentiful and getting the Mages to even drink the stuff, during the battle, is an act of Congress. 


For future reference, unlimited lyrium dust, flasks, and crafting reagents (like distillation agent) can all be found at merchants in Amaranthine.  This is before the city is attacked, naturally.  

Craft up a bunch of regular lyrium potions (or higher; just don't bother with lesser potions).  Set a tactic: Self: Mana or Stamina level < 10% --> use lyrium potion, least powerful.  You'll go through your potions in ascending level order and it'll be harder to get your mages to stop plowing through your potion stocks than to get them to start.

Modifié par JosieJ, 16 avril 2010 - 03:48 .


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Jallard

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Thanks to all of your tips I bet her. Although I was a little disappointed in the end. My character, an Elf Mage, looked back to see that the Brood Mother was really dead and I could see on her face that her battle with the Darkspawn was over. But to just vanish????

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Yeah, me too, and I left my favourite dagger jammed down her throat! I want my dagger back!

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Jallard wrote...

After several attempts it is sad to come to the end of the Awakening only to be defeated each time by the Brood Mother. [Don't want to make the game easy do we!?! The Maker forbid!] I know not the secret to killing the Brood Mother. Lyrium is not plentiful and getting the Mages to even drink the stuff, during the battle, is an act of Congress. You actually run out of Mana each and everytime you use a single spell: any spell. Meanwhile,  you have vicious tenticles with sharp spikes peppering you as well as those cursed Grubddy bastards. The others seem to fight like they are still on Level One. Then there is the Brood Mother's spit to contend with. Such is how games are made these days?!?
It's a joy to play, but you can never really win. Anyone have any answers?

So weird, i found the last fight pretty easy. You have so much stuff at your disposal, arcane fields and repulsion fields + heart of winter + mass paralysis and fireballs for the sorrounding enemies, cones + tempest + inferno on the mother, one with nature + thornblades and so on. Even my best party so far with 3 rogues/1 warrior and ridiculous dps had a
little bit of a harder time than 2 mages alone (one died rather early and i had no spirit healer). The tentacles are dead in no time if you play your cards right, and so are all the children she summons.

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I used the Tevinter relics to beat the Mother down, and had my elf mage and Anders snipe from a distance with the Battlemage efects turned on while Sigrun and Justice pounded on her.



I also used Ser Pounce-A-Lot a couple of times just before the Mother could get a TPK on me - I still wound up with only one party member standing when the final blow was struck, though.

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The way I did it (on Nightmare) was thusly: ALL FOR THE TENTACLES!!!!!!! No joke now, just try to kill them. It´s unarguably by far the hardest fight in Awakenings, but it´s doable with a few healing potions. Lyrium obviously helps, too (but unfortunately I only had 4 small pots left there).



Just try to keep your team alive and get rid of tentacles and childers. Disable the childers if possible (blood wound is a very useful spell there).



After a while you should be able to kill everything and still live, then just attack the mother till it´s dead.





@Bowie: What does poune-a-lot do?

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Blood wound doesn't work vs the children as they are all immune to it.
Mass paralysis works however.

Modifié par Hundbert, 16 avril 2010 - 11:22 .


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Zy-El wrote...

Yeah, me too, and I left my favourite dagger jammed down her throat! I want my dagger back!

I know how you feel, granted my rogue only used that dagger for doing something dubious like killing Vaughan or other innocents, but to leave it stuck in a darkspawn?

Tirigon wrote...

The way I did it (on Nightmare) was
thusly: ALL FOR THE TENTACLES!!!!!!! No joke now, just try to kill them.
It´s unarguably by far the hardest fight in Awakenings, but it´s doable
with a few healing potions. Lyrium obviously helps, too (but
unfortunately I only had 4 small pots left there).

Just try to
keep your team alive and get rid of tentacles and childers. Disable the
childers if possible (blood wound is a very useful spell there).

After
a while you should be able to kill everything and still live, then just
attack the mother till it´s dead.

That's what I do, except on hard not nightmare because I'm a big pansy. I put my s&s warrior on the mother, with light healing and force field to escape the grab, and just set to work with my 2h warrior, dw rogue and mage hacking away until there's nothing left but the mother, then just focus damage on her.

Modifié par nerdage, 17 avril 2010 - 02:13 .


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Quick note: unlike the broodmother in Origins, the Mother is not lightning immune. So a quick storm of the century(or two or three) does the trick. Also for someone who casts spells the Mother is immune to mana clash(couldn't make it too easy could they).

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*shrug* For me, Nathaniel slaughtered the Mother all by himself, while the rest of the party killed the tentacles/adds. I was, admittedly, level 34 at the time (hit 35 during the fight...no level up for me. :( )



Heck, I only used the special abilities from the towers to see what they did.

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Vaeliorin wrote...

*shrug* For me, Nathaniel slaughtered the Mother all by himself, while the rest of the party killed the tentacles/adds. I was, admittedly, level 34 at the time (hit 35 during the fight...no level up for me. :( )

Heck, I only used the special abilities from the towers to see what they did.




That usually happens to me too but when I beat The Mother I usually level up from 30 to 31. Nathaniel with the Howe bow makes him an impressive warrior. He usually single handedly destroys The Mother while my character, Oghren/Justice, and Anders take on the rest. Nate finishes her really quick while the three of us kill the children fast without too much problem as long as we have enough lyrium and health potions to go around. This time though with my female rogue character, I used Momentum and with two daggers I stabbed the life out of The Mother quite easily and I only had to revive her (my pc) once. The battle was around five minutes long I'd say, possibly even shorter with just a two on one assault while Anders and Oghren held back the children.

Modifié par DragonShepard138, 17 avril 2010 - 07:09 .


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Seriously, no thought has to go into this fight. Sit in the spot i mentioned and spam pots and use ranged attacks, the tentacles wont touch you and the brood mamma will fall down.

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The fight can be challenging (esp on nightmare). The Glyph of Neutralization she casts is really annoying, in addition to the tentacles that knock you down. I basically concentrate my attacks on the tentacles. When Velanna gets hit with the glyph, the whole party moves out of the glyph zone. I have Velanna as a keeper so her keeper skills, especially the last one in the chain packs a punch on the tentacles. She is also a battlemage and I flip on that last spell in that chain for continual damage. Once the tentacles are down, I let Anders bomb away for afar (rain of arrows is nice here) and Velanna will whip out her AoE spells (Blizzard, Tempest) and let the rest of the guys fend off those larvae things. Velanna keeper skills are real useful in taking them out also when they close in. Eventually you'll simply wear out the mother and she'll go down. Don't forget to continually heal all throughout.



Really once the tentacles whent down, the fight got alot easier.

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You can stand off with bows, spread your party out, and pincushion her to death. Just make sure your party members keep attacking her and don't turn on the tentacles instead. Requires a lot of healing pots, but just keep plinking away and you'll eventually kill her.

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keesio74 wrote...

The fight can be challenging (esp on nightmare). The Glyph of Neutralization she casts is really annoying, in addition to the tentacles that knock you down. I basically concentrate my attacks on the tentacles. When Velanna gets hit with the glyph, the whole party moves out of the glyph zone. I have Velanna as a keeper so her keeper skills, especially the last one in the chain packs a punch on the tentacles. She is also a battlemage and I flip on that last spell in that chain for continual damage. Once the tentacles are down, I let Anders bomb away for afar (rain of arrows is nice here) and Velanna will whip out her AoE spells (Blizzard, Tempest) and let the rest of the guys fend off those larvae things. Velanna keeper skills are real useful in taking them out also when they close in. Eventually you'll simply wear out the mother and she'll go down. Don't forget to continually heal all throughout.

Really once the tentacles whent down, the fight got alot easier.


I finished this afternoon for the first time amd this was pretty much my experience too.  Ohgren and Sigrun went down early for me, but my PC archer rogue and Velanna managed it on their own.  The only tough spot was after killing the tentacles, I had about 10-15 spawned children to deal with without getting overwhelmed.  Luckily I don't think both ever got overwhelmed at the same time - that could have been bad.  Used Scattershot and the archer Burst skill to help crowd control.  I think I used more pots in this battle than in the whole rest of the game combined.  Also, nature resistance helps resist a lot of damage.

Modifié par tribefaninnc, 20 avril 2010 - 11:44 .


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I just finished my second play-through of Awakening. The first time my character was an Elf Female Mage. This time I beat the Broodmother with a Female Human Noble Rogue. Now, here's my take on it --if anyone cares:

I have played DAO for some time now and what I have found, for me at least, is that I have better luck using woman as Mages, Rogues and Warriors. In DAO, at the very least, the women are much better fighters. (Besides, every time I try to create a male he comes out looking like a dumber-than-whale poop Dudley Do-Right.) Whereas, the women come out looking like Victoria models. Which would you chose?)

I used two Mages and Sigran, and Justice in the first run-through and two Mages, Sigran and my Rogue to beat the Broodmother in the second run-through. Both times my team stood at the entrance to her lair.

I addition, I have also been one to complain about the Awakening expansion and its lack of cohesion and follow through with DAO. One of the things I enjoy doing is reading the epilogue. I was totally surprised to see Leliana's name mentioned in the last play-through of the Awakening: and, it pleased me to no end.

One of the things I most dislike about DAO is Alister. His character absolutely annoys me to no end. So, if I am playing as a female character --which I do all of the time-- I always romance Leliana rather than "poor me" Alister.
Thank you for that Bioware?

Jallard

Modifié par Jallard, 21 avril 2010 - 12:12 .