Mlai00 wrote...
@ Swordfishtrombone:
You don't seem to get it no matter how much Tinnic repeats herself. Fereldan is like Medieval Europe. Where the Church is a fact of life, like Gravity.
Whatever your personal views, you do not "politely disagree" with the Revered Mother when she asks for a tithe for the Chantry, just like you do not "politely disagree" with the tax collector when he asks for taxes for the King. Either you make up an acceptable excuse, or you put up fightin' words.
Leliana and Alistair are poor examples. Lel is essentially a heretic. Alistair doesn't like Templar life, but that doesn't mean he disbelieves in the Maker.
And you seem to be missing my point, though I've expressed it many times. I don't CARE what the consequences of respectfully declining are, I merely want the option to do so. In medeval Europe, you certainly COULD respectflully decline to participate in the churche's actions, and what the consequences were depended on the particular location, particular time, and how freverent the particular local ruler was in upholding religious uniformity.
Certainly someone declining to participate, but not outright insulting the church or picking a fight on purpose, had better chances than someone who openly commited heresy or blasphemy - the latter kind would meet a bad end in pretty much every case.
But even if this was not the case, it is a matter of principle - someone who is an **** and goes of his way to insult the established religion in a society where that religion holds great power is being stupid; someone who respectfully declines to support or promote the religion may be putting himself into danger, but he's not necessarily an idiot; he may simply have a very principled world view.
Leliana is a perfect example - she is indeed something of a heretic, which shows that you CAN be a heretic in Faerun; and she's not done that badly at it either.
What I am looking for is allowance to play my character as a principled objector who is also a nice guy. The dialogue options sometimes seem to make it an either or choise - either you are a principled objector, OR you are a nice guy. As if having principles and not agreeing with a dominant religious organization automatically made you a jerk.
So what if this kind of position would have been rare in a medieval setting? Were world saving, blight defeating, a multi-quest hero fighting machine characters commonplace then? You ARE an exceptional character in DA:O, even within the fantacy world setting. Why should you be able to be exceptional in these other anti-historical ways, but NOT be allowed to be simultaneously a nice guy... and a freethinker? Is that combination REALLY so remarkable, so unthinkable, that having that option would ruin the immersion?
What I find surpricing is the level of resistance to this idea, from some people.
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