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#151
SnakeStrike8

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Swordfishtrombone wrote...

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I don't get it. If you "appreciate the work you do to help people,", then why don't you donate to the Chantry?


The same reason I don't give to religious charities in real world - part of that money will go to spreading a religion that I disagree with, and that I suspect has an overall negative effect that I'd rather not promote. It doesn't matter if the money is 1 copper, 30 silvers, or a million times that; it's the principle that matters. Yet that doesn't make me blind to the good a religious charity may do alongside spreading their doctrine.

In real life, I give to charities that are entirely secular - in the game, I'm also happy to do the chantry's board quests that involve me directly helping people, without helping with the prozelytization.


You didn't read my entire post, or if you did, you chose to look at only this bit.
Lothering's Chantry is doomed. You know this, especially since the Darkspawn are zeroing in. Lothering isn't going to be able to give up any of your silver to the overall Chantry body. They're stuck, and they've got a ton of mouths to feed, and they want your help to do it. You can refuse if you wish, but then you're refusing to help that small handful of people that your money can because of principle. You don't need to believe in Jesus or the Christian God to donate to a Christian charity, and donating doesn't automatically baptize you into their fold.

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I love bashing the maker in DA, it was hell of a lot fun

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Addai67 wrote...

I don't think the respect part in "respectfully decline to participate" carries over in a highly traditional culture.  You either go through the formalities or you reject the religion.


Rudely rejecting the religion, or other customs and authorties, would go over even much, much worse yet we have many opportunities to ****** on religion/authority -- without any consequences, when by rights the character should at the very least end up in the stocks for a few days, if not worse. Not to mention what should happen to anyone seen using blood magic. I find that highly irritating and immersion-breaking, though sadly par on course for computer games. Too much ego-stroking, not enough consequences.

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I personally agree, but why can't we explore other religions I would love to play as a chracter who worships the gods of the Tevinter Imperium :devil:

I did wonder why you never had the option as a dwarf character to say "Maker who is that? We dwarfs do not care for religion sorry I can not care for your 'Maker'"

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The Tevinter Imperium believes in the Maker now. If you the mean the Old Gods well... you would essentially be the equivalent of an Satan-worshipper since all the Old Gods became Archdemons. Considering this game has a medieval setting where devil-worship is generally frowned upon, I suspect openly declaring yourself to be a Satan-worshipper probably would not end well...

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fongiel24 wrote...

The Tevinter Imperium believes in the Maker now. If you the mean the Old Gods well... you would essentially be the equivalent of an Satan-worshipper since all the Old Gods became Archdemons. Considering this game has a medieval setting where devil-worship is generally frowned upon, I suspect openly declaring yourself to be a Satan-worshipper probably would not end well...


exactly why it would be an interesting playthrough, another interesting one to explore would be the Quanari religion because of the little we have heard about it from Sten

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Fizzeler wrote...
I did wonder why you never had the option as a dwarf character to say "Maker who is that? We dwarfs do not care for religion sorry I can not care for your 'Maker'"

But you actually do have that option on several occassions. The whole thing that it isn't at all a consequent one, is what annoys me most. So in that sense, I do want at least one of the ancestors/elf-panteon/no-religion options in my dialogue. I would also like the 'reasonable' options for my non-dwarf/dalish characters, but I can see a bit why the devs did not think it would fit in in current Ferelden.

Modifié par tigrina, 25 avril 2010 - 02:08 .


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Fizzeler wrote...

fongiel24 wrote...

The Tevinter Imperium believes in the Maker now. If you the mean the Old Gods well... you would essentially be the equivalent of an Satan-worshipper since all the Old Gods became Archdemons. Considering this game has a medieval setting where devil-worship is generally frowned upon, I suspect openly declaring yourself to be a Satan-worshipper probably would not end well...


exactly why it would be an interesting playthrough, another interesting one to explore would be the Quanari religion because of the little we have heard about it from Sten

It could only be an option for male PCs, though, as female PCs who follow the Qun can't fight or need to change genders.

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It could only be an option for male PCs, though, as female PCs who follow the Qun can't fight or need to change genders.

This can't be true. You are born that way, so it is who you are. According to the Qun.

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tigrina wrote...

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It could only be an option for male PCs, though, as female PCs who follow the Qun can't fight or need to change genders.

This can't be true. You are born that way, so it is who you are. According to the Qun.

Not according to Sten. You either aren't a warrior or aren't a female and he never does manage to resolve that bit of cognitive dissonance.