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[krasnoarmeets]

Hours upon hours upon hours of enjoyment. Blood, sweat and tears. Fabulous character depth.

[Domyk]

Swordfishtrombone wrote...

Well, I'm on my second playthough, so I can't yet evaluate a very long term replay value. I can easily see at least one or two more goes, and I do want to play through all the origins.

The game that's had the most replay value for me is clearly BG2 and it's expansion Throne of Bhaal. I spent countless of hours on it, on many, many playthroughs, and I'm still not sure I'm done with it, though I haven't played it in years. Might still reinstall it, get a few of the newer mods, and give it a go.

NWN2 also had great replayablity. DA:O might be about the same level with regards to replay value, I suspect.

Indeed am playing BG2 right now and having a blast.  Speaking of NWN2, while I love the game and purchased it months into release, to this day never finished the official single player campaign because the user control Interface completely turns me off.

[Domyk]

krasnoarmeets wrote...

Hours upon hours upon hours of enjoyment. Blood, sweat and tears. Fabulous character depth.

Character depth is enhanced by the voice acting imo.  If Dragon age was primarily text read " the depth of the characters would not have been as great.

[xCirdanx]

Domyk wrote...

krasnoarmeets wrote...

Hours upon hours upon hours of enjoyment. Blood, sweat and tears. Fabulous character depth.

Character depth is enhanced by the voice acting imo.  If Dragon age was primarily text read " the depth of the characters would not have been as great.

This a simple matter of taste and depends a lot if you like the voice actors. I like them in DA and think they do a great job. (even in my german version). But i still play BG, so it´s not such an improvement for me or that important at all. Funny i think BG2 characters have more depth overall. Taste again i guess

I think the replay value is good, i had a little break but i´m into my ~5th playthru at the moment. Not so much for different story angles, because they don´t differ that much in the end. But i like to play around with the different classes and talent builds. I also enjoy the atmosphere of the world very much.

Modifié par xCirdanx, 17 avril 2010 - 09:08 .

[hexaligned]

Domyk wrote...

krasnoarmeets wrote...

Hours upon hours upon hours of enjoyment. Blood, sweat and tears. Fabulous character depth.

Character depth is enhanced by the voice acting imo.  If Dragon age was primarily text read " the depth of the characters would not have been as great.

I'd disagree in a general sort of way, unless you think characters in novels can't have depth.    I'm willing to accept some people just don't like reading, but it wouldn't have any effect on character complexity.  In fact if they spent less money and time on VA they could have loosened up the dialogue trees alot more, and if anything given the characters more depth.

Modifié par relhart, 17 avril 2010 - 09:34 .

[Domyk]

relhart wrote...

Domyk wrote...

krasnoarmeets wrote...

Hours upon hours upon hours of enjoyment. Blood, sweat and tears. Fabulous character depth.

Character depth is enhanced by the voice acting imo.  If Dragon age was primarily text read " the depth of the characters would not have been as great.

I'd disagree in a general sort of way, unless you think characters in novels can't have depth.    I'm willing to accept some people just don't like reading, but it wouldn't have any effect on character complexity.  In fact if they spent less money and time on VA they could have loosened up the dialogue trees alot more, and if anything given the characters more depth.

Novels are quite different of course but in the era of Computer gaming there is a reason the PC hardware industry makes big bucks inventing the next "upgrade" in terms of sound and video cards etc.  In addition no one who paid 300 bucks and up for their PS3 or Xbox360 consoles wish to read text 90pct of the time in a 60 dollar game.

Regardless, Bioware obviously knows the impact as well else they could have just as easily went the cheap route and used random Bioware employees from within to read the script.  Instead, they chose to hire professional voice actors and hollywood stars to create more of an immersion feel to the game ....and they succeeded with flying colors.

Modifié par Domyk, 17 avril 2010 - 10:27 .

[LeraG]

I cannot load a game and play if I only have an hour or two to play therefore I only play when I can devote 12 hours in one sitting. *laugh* I don't mind orzammar, however the fad I still get lost. Yeah I'm one of those gals that cannot read a map.

[Frolk]

I'm not finding the replay value all that great, but I'm starting to wonder if this has more to do with the way I play the game than the game design itself.

The thing that made Baldur's Gate 2 replayable for me was that I always had a different combination of companions, which meant a different set of personal quests, different banter, different equipment to pick up, and so on.

In Dragon Age, which is similar in so many ways to the BG series, I picked up all of the companions in my first playthrough (except for the secret companion, who I picked up on my second playthrough). I befriended them all, did all of their personal quests, and brought all of them along on my adventures (I switched my party around at almost every opportunity). I did the same thing on my second playthrough, and even though I made different choices to resolve quests, I didn't feel the same sense of novelty. My third and current playthrough is just a huge case of déjà vu.

That's the problem with being a completionist in RPGs, I guess; it doesn't take long before you've seen it all.

Modifié par Frolk, 20 avril 2010 - 07:43 .

[Elhanan]

Huge replay value for me. Thus far, I have Wardens from Human Noble Warrior, Elven Mage, Dwarven Commoner Rogue, Dalish Rogue, and currently am working on a high spell resistant Dwarven Noble Templar to take into Awakening realms.

Besides full replays, I also enjoy replaying specific battles and events which are saved from a wider array of characters.

Modifié par Elhanan, 20 avril 2010 - 10:41 .

[Unwise Wisdom]

To me it'd have more replay value if it didn't have so many parts I hate playing through

The fade ( Luckily I can skip most of it with a mod)
The Deep Roads
And Ostagar, I just can't play through that part again, even if it doesn't take much time.

Other than that, as far as character builds, choices and such go, it has some pretty decent replay value, and I would definitely play through it again if it weren't for the parts of the game I mentioned earlier. I've only played 22 hours on my current character and I'm almost done with the game, I probably won't touch it again once I'm done, sadly.

Edit: And even if I did play through it again I'd probably only do it one more time, just to see what it's like to be completely evil,  or simply to make different choices.   But other than that, I don't see the replay value.

Modifié par Unwise Wisdom, 20 avril 2010 - 09:36 .

[Dallo]

I've been through 5 times and have a 6th character at level 15 (which I probably won't finish now - have had enough...). Most I've (re)played a game since Baldurs Gate 2. So yeah, great replayability, I reckon. On the other hand I completely lost interest in Awakening about half way through.

[Damar Stiehl]

I've started on a second playthrough of DA:O and got bored to tears after mage tower.

[LyudmilaKatzen]

I've finished it three times and Awakening twice, and I'll probably finish each a couple of more times at a minimum. I did take a break for a while after my third Origins playthrough, did Awakening, then ME2, then Awakening again. I don't want to get too burned out on it. There are so many different things to do and different ways to play that I think it has huge replay value.

[gingerbill]

Think i must have over 200+ hours so i guess i must say the replay value is good , shame there werent a few more classes but i guess thats being greedy.

Re-spec mod on the PC greatly increased the replay value for me as i can just play characters completely diffrent the next time round.

Personally i like the deep roads , its long for sure but i enjoyed the fighting constantly for hours , made a change of pace that i think fitted in well with the other parts of the game.

Modifié par gingerbill, 20 avril 2010 - 03:11 .

[Zy-El]

I'm on my 7th playthrough and I've yet to even try any of the Dwarf origins. I've been playing all three classes using Humans and Elves. Also, I go through different combinations of specs within each class as well as characters of both sexes. With all of those available permutations, I am quite entertained and there is significant replay value.



I suspect those who are bored with this game have only played one class, one race the same way each time - yeah, of course, that would get boring. Whereas I tend to alternate with each playthrough. First time, I played as a Human Rogue then a City Elf Rogue then a Human Warrior then an Elven Mage then a Dalish Rogue. Each playthrough is different and I see more of the game from different viewpoints. Like I said, I've yet to try the Dwarf origins and am tempted to do so.



Replayability depends on how you approach the game.

[Talonfire]

As far as replayability goes Dragon Age is alright. It's certainly more replayable than Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire and Mass Effect, but the game is littered with bland, tedious dungeons and repetitive combat encounters. I may replay Dragon Age a couple of times, but I don't see myself replaying it annually like I do its "spiritual predecessor"; the Baldur's Gate series.

[Unwise Wisdom]

Zy-El wrote...


I suspect those who are bored with this game have only played one class, one race the same way each time - yeah, of course, that would get boring.  

Replayability depends on how you approach the game.

Why would anyone do that?
It's more likely that seeing pretty much the same stuff twice (or more) = Boring.  At least that's how it is for me.

[Zy-El]

Unwise Wisdom wrote...

Zy-El wrote...
I suspect those who are bored with this game have only played one class, one race the same way each time - yeah, of course, that would get boring.  

Replayability depends on how you approach the game.

Why would anyone do that?
It's more likely that seeing pretty much the same stuff twice (or more) = Boring.  At least that's how it is for me.

Some people are too comfortable in their comfort zone to venture out of it.  For example, some players are only keen on playing Human Warriors and don't want to try anything else.  After 3 or 4 playthroughs of Human Warrior, it gets to feel the same and they complain that the game itself is boring. 

Like I said, it depends on how you approach the game.  If you're happy doing the same hack-and-slash over and over again, good for you.  Play the game the way you like to enjoy it.  Don't blame the game for lacking variety if you're not willing to change your approach. 

[Unwise Wisdom]

Zy-El wrote...

Unwise Wisdom wrote...

Zy-El wrote...
I suspect those who are bored with this game have only played one class, one race the same way each time - yeah, of course, that would get boring.  

Replayability depends on how you approach the game.

Why would anyone do that?
It's more likely that seeing pretty much the same stuff twice (or more) = Boring.  At least that's how it is for me.

Some people are too comfortable in their comfort zone to venture out of it.  For example, some players are only keen on playing Human Warriors and don't want to try anything else.  After 3 or 4 playthroughs of Human Warrior, it gets to feel the same and they complain that the game itself is boring. 

Like I said, it depends on how you approach the game.  If you're happy doing the same hack-and-slash over and over again, good for you.  Play the game the way you like to enjoy it.  Don't blame the game for lacking variety if you're not willing to change your approach. 

Well, I personally play differently on each character, never been bored by any of the classes, but I've been really bored with the game itself sometimes. Even if you do change your class/playstyle the only thing that's new and interesting is the combat, the rest of the game will be pretty much the same.

Anyway, those that actually see this supposedly amazing replay value in this game, enlighten me, please.  
Cause the only way I see myself playing through the whole game twice is if I'm 100% good on one playthrough and 100% evil on the other.

[Taritu]

I didn't think it would have much replay value, but I've found I enjoy it even knowing the story.



Except for the mage tower fade sequence. Loved it the first time, but I hate it now.

[DragonRageGT]

For those who hate the Fade, I'd suggest looking for a guide about the quickest route. Since it means getting all morphing powers very soon, messing around with those forms can be fun for some. And always walk around morphed into the burning one as it is hasted, for movement at least, and that makes all the running take half the time or almost that much.

[eucatastrophe]

Don't understand the Fade hate. Although I have only done it twice but it was really fun both the times, and pretty quick on my second try!

[ell46]

I'd like to start by saying I've never ever played any game more than once and I've been playing RPGs a very long time.



I've lost count of how many times I've played DAO due to the fact I deleted some unfinished saves a month or so ago. I always try to play it differently each time and as someone else said I think it's the DLC/mods that keep me playing.



I'm almost at the end of my first game using all the DLC/mods I've downloaded. Earlier games only had the mods as and when I discovered them and I wanted to experience a full game using them all. I've got one more play through planned after this one and then I will probably play some characters again, but only up to a certain point as there is nothing I want by completing the whole game and the final battles aren't worth the effort of doing anymore.

[Grizzly46]

I just got out of my first run with Dragon Age, so I might just as well chime in on the subject.



For me, DAO was as expected and from what I've seen, a disappointment. The storyline was weak, and I have never encountered a more forced reason for war in a game, I never got attached to my character, the VA was in a lot of cases very weak, the bugs annoying even with patch 1.03, the scaling of battles in some cases horrible making grinding battles a chore, the pathfinding terrible, the selection of equipment meagre, and my role totally trashed at that end fight, to just mention a few gripes with it. So, I guess I will play through Awakening just to have it done, but the replay value stands at 0.