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#2526
LadyAly

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Okay - I throw in my first toolset  duster dwarf.

Freya is a disaffected, bitter duster dwarf, only good with killing.
Her drunken mother, her pretty sister and she the ugly one, tortured from her own mother, has lost all hope  for her future.

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Modifié par LadyAly, 04 juillet 2010 - 04:14 .


#2527
Tyrax Lightning

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Petehog: She looks Devious... I like it! She looks the part of the Cunning, Sneaky Rogue! Perhaps a Cunning Build + Bard? :D

Morrigan looks spiffy as always! :wub:

mochen: I spent ages on the Eyes. I wanted a stern, serious look for him, but it was completely impossible... There's a glitch &/or Design Flaw in the Qunari Model that put too much Skin under the Eyebrow, & if the Brow is set in any low position, this stupid excess Skin will 'swallow' the upper Eye area, including a large amount of the upper Eyelashes, making the Graphics in that area look as if it's glitching, it's fugly! (Now that I think of it, maybe I oughta Screenshot this effect...) Without an effective way to lower the Brow, I can't make any serious kinda look. I was NOT happy at this development. <_< Oh yeah, i've tried both Squint & No Squint.

I'm stuck on Anri. I can't figure out what to do, & feedback on her dried up. It's still completely imposible to move that freaking outer Eyebow off it's 'droopy, sunk' position to fix her Eye area, so it seems completely impossible to give her Eyes & Eye area the 'cute, kind' look I wanted her to have, without any 'cartoonification'. I can't figure out what to do... & Why the freaking buggers is this happening only to Anri? I'm not seeing this stupid Eyebrow problem on anyone else's Elf... Not even having the Eyes on maximum low position could aid the problem...

Anri V9.0 encore:
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That 'droop' on the Outer Eyebrow area makes it impossible to remove the 'sadness' from her Face & it won't quit breaking the Design... :crying:

LadyAly: What i'm trying to say is that there was room for improvement on your Character, & I failed to spot it. This makes me look newbie... & unskilled. Kinda like if I was inspecting a painting & failing to spot technique errors. Was that better? I'm not a tough bugger at explaining things.

For Vashidan, he's a Qunari. It's impossible to use normal Eyes on a Qunari Morph, Sten's Eyes are an 'Eye Texture' & only Eye Textures are able to work on Qunari Morphs. (& I suspect that many of these Eye Textures may be for various beasts, monsters, & maybe even Bosses.) I dunno if any of the other Eye Textures would really be able to work on him better, but experimentation is an option. For the Eye Shape related stuff, see above in my talk with mochen. I'm too lazy to retype it, & who would wanna read the same stuff twice in the same Post anyway?

Freya will feel better after she gets to lvl 12 & starts Dual Wielding Axes! :devil: (Or Swords if that's more her thing.) Plus, Helms may help her cause. ;)

#2528
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@Tyrax - I got it now :)
And no - you don't sound unskilled or such stuff *hugs*
But I think she is well designed - I wont change nothing on her.

As for the eye brow problem - ever tried to move the forehead in and out ?
Maybe this helps

Hehehe - yesh Freya and the grey wardens *grins* But I fear  not even this will conjure a smile on her lips.

Modifié par LadyAly, 04 juillet 2010 - 06:04 .


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Each time I use the toolset with a morph file I get so far then it crashes.

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@ LadyAly - That is a wonderful design, I think one of your best yet. You've perfectly captured a look of hopelessness in her eyes. She looks sad and downtrodden. Almost like she is about to cry. Wonderful work!



Here's Kane, a qunari warrior I've been working on.

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Well, Daidalos seems to have been another success from me O: Lots of positivt comments and not many suggestions on changes at all. I'm flattered!

@mya11
Your elf look much better with the changes :)

@Caladhiel
I didn't aim to make him "feminine" but when you say it then yes he does look a bit feminine :D
Thanks for the comment <3
Spam on! I love your creations :)
Belkala was interesting, I love the concept. Mind if I do something like that in the future? Anyways, you pulled it off perfectly.

@Zeleen
Orlando looks fine but I think he would look better with different stubble :3 His eyes/mouth doesn't fit that "badass" stubble look.

@mochen
Thanks for the comment ^^
Iona (I'm always thinking this name in the way Lady Landra says it btw :D) is amazing! Ethereal is the least we can say about her :D
Twyla is stunning too, of course. Can't you make something ugly just for the sake of it? xD Loooove the name, and the shot is great. Running out of things to say to you dear O:
And Kane... no I just can't find words for it dear mochen. You're the master of the badass-look.

@Schratty
Thanks! :D
Strom still looks aaawesome, but meh for that robe. It would be nicer if the texture was better on the skin, now it loosk like he has two plastic man-boobs on him ;)

@yasuraka.hakkyou
101 pages now! Amaaaazing Oo
Don't be so silly ;) At least I don't use any sexmod for my games. It's just cuddlecuties <3

@Tyrax Lightning
Thanks, and no worries. Don't give up regarding Anri tho! I still think you need to tweak the eye area. Use NO eye shape,m just the original. And under the "Eyes" area look after the Eye Brow Down/Up-slider. Play around with those.
You seem to have a very distinct style when it comes to the first look of your char. Can you see the likeness in Vashidan, Ghoulia and the first version of Anri?

@LadyAly
I like Dumbo-elves! I tried making his ears less prominent but... nope, I like it this way. Thanks for the comment tho <3
Aww, always save your thingies, and OFTEN :P The Toolset seems to like crashing... Terra looks amazing in the celtic tat too! I loooove her after the changes too ^^
OMG! DAMN and such... Sheit! Don't change ANYTHING on Freya, seriouslky. That's just... amazing! Loving thre expression, it's the "grumpy" face :D

@Axekix
Love the pose, lovethe expression, love the shot and damn what a cutie she is, your City Elf <3

@klarabella
I totally dig the new version, extremely good "copy"!

@marquiseondore
Yes, that bothers me SO much!
Looking forward to the mod :3

@Relshar
Yep, it does that. Just save oftenoftenoften.

#2532
LadyAly

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@mochen WOW - just WOW -
I would not try to put up a fight with Kane. But seriously dear - this is a masterpiece ! :o

@V.C and mochen - thank you both so much. I am surprised how fast I get into the work with the toolset. I don't even need much time for it ...
I got an idea in my head - and like in the CC - I simple do it *smiles with blushed cheeks* I can't explain it better - its all more intuitive.
The Toolset fits me like a glove :blush:

Modifié par LadyAly, 04 juillet 2010 - 07:42 .


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Relshar wrote...

@freemanphd The weapons look nice but for me dont realy fit into DA:O they look like the belong in a FF game or a Asian MMO.


I completely agree with you (though I hope this doesn't insult the creators). The weapons really look too fancy or too high tech for Dragon Age.

@LadyAly - I really like how beat down she looks, though, considering her situation, it may help to use the standard dry lipstick to get the point across more.

#2534
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Oh - yes FreemanPhD - thank you

See - there is always something to make a Char perfect :)
And now I would say she is :)

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Modifié par LadyAly, 04 juillet 2010 - 09:27 .


#2535
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Well I managed to get a quick morph file done for my dwarf noble. Looking at some of the characters here though kind of makes me think its not quite finished yet.
Well here it goes if you remeber my last post with the dwarf and teeeeny nose then here she is again with a make over.

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I think her nose maybe to big now.

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Tyrax Lightning wrote...

That 'droop' on the Outer Eyebrow area makes it impossible to remove the 'sadness' from her Face & it won't quit breaking the Design... :crying:

Haven't played with them personally, but there's some add-ons out there with new eyebrow textures. Perhaps one of them may have different arc from the default, which would help with that problem you're having?

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Tyrax Lightning wrote...

That 'droop' on the Outer Eyebrow area makes it impossible to remove the 'sadness' from her Face & it won't quit breaking the Design... :crying:


If you haven't already, make sure eyes->eyebrow is set towards up and brows is set towards down.
Otherwise, move the eyes up. Massive side-effect, but it helps with the eyebrows.

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LadyAly: No, I didn't try moving the Forehead, I doubt I can afford too. If i move it back, it'll become a Male Forehead, according to the Anatomy Link talking about the Anatomical Differences between Males & Females. I don't see how a Male Forehead would ever work on Anri.

mochen: For a big tough guy, I think the Nose Bridge should be wider than that to make the Face look more muscled. Other than that, Kane blows Vashidan outta the water! His Eyes look weirdly small on his huge head, yet it seems to work on him... Hmm... I wonder if it would work on Vashidan as well...?

VirusCat: Yes, I can see the likeness in Vashidan, Ghoulia, & Anri: I tend to be better at making uglies, than at making pretties, because I don't have any skill at Anatomy. (I've played barrelloads of Games of barrelloads of different styles, so I think it made my Anatomy experiences so broad, that I don't know good Anatomy from a hole in the ground. Video Games really are bad for us! :blink:) I'm still working on it now. mochen is giving me backup at how to deal with the Eyebrows, & after that, more Eye tweaks may be an option as well. Picking Eyes for the job can be so freaking hard! I've worked the buggers outta the Eyebrow & Brow Sliders, one of these days, they might wear out on me!

Relshar: Try widening the Nose Bridge a bit, then narrow the Nostrils a bit.

tmp7704: mochen is giving me assistance at the Eyebrow work. If that doesn't get Anri finished, then an Eyebrow Mod sounds like a good Plan B.

_Loc_N_lol_: I've tried that. The Eyebrow Sliders & the Brow Slider hardly affect the outer part of the Eyebrow at all. That's what's so frustrating about this... It seems like the outer Eyebrow is nigh unmanipulatable! That's what stalled my efforts at fixing Anri. :(

Modifié par Tyrax Lightning, 04 juillet 2010 - 11:41 .


#2539
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@Tyrax It was a thought - and well, really dear - it was only a attempt to help. I thought especially her temples could be effected - and fix your problem.

Also for myself I have never read any Anatomy Link - nor other Links in this case.

I do what I think it makes the *Head* right - *shrugs* I don't have the feeling my Creations looking anatomical wrong .

Oghren would say *Sod of what others wrote - special problems, special solutions*

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All righty. Gave a shot at making an Asian gal.



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@ Relshar - That's a really interesting dwarf design. I like it. The face is very unusual but I think it does work quite well. The only thing I can suggest is use a different skin complexion. She looks a bit too smooth...almost like she is made of porcelain. Other than that, it's a really interesting new idea. Good stuff.

@ Petehog - She's really beautiful. The asian look is very difficult to achieve.
I think the trick is to move the 'asian nose' slider fairly liberally, and also move the eyes forward a fair bit. It still doesn't completely eliminate the western looking brow though. (I just used a hairstyle with a big fringe to cover it up on my Harumi design..kind of cheating, but theres not much else you can do)
My only suggestion would be to make darken her skin tone a tad? Other than that it's a very impressive design :)

@ Viruscat, LadyAly and Tyrax - Thanks for the kind comments on my designs. I'm glad you liked Kane :)

Modifié par mochen, 05 juillet 2010 - 10:00 .


#2542
LadyAly

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@Reishar Unusual Dwarf Design - I like it.

Give her another skin texture and make her brows a tad darker. I think then she is done.



@Petehog She is stunning, especially in the first screenshot. Though, her skin is a little bit too rosy and europian. Maybe it is just the light in the first two shots.

#2543
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Petehog wrote...

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I see a fantastic Kratos morph, and then I **** in my pantz.

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Petehog - pretty asian I like !

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@mochen: Iona is soooo cute! I think she looks a little Asian around the eyes, or is it just my imagination?

Twyla is just the right mixture of sweet & dangerous. Only thing I would change, I'd give her a more neutral lipstick...

As for your Qunari... no comment. Just keep them coming, dear, keep them coming! *fans herself* :D



@LadyAly: I think I must be one of the few people who thinks Terra looks better and sweeter with the Celtic tattoo. Just love the whole design!

As for your Dwarf... whoa! Reminds me of my own Duster I made a while back. It's exactly THAT look I was trying to capture as well^^



@klarabella: The TS version looks so much better! Great work on a beautiful warrior! :)



@Tyrax: Hey, don't give up! ;( Just think about it this way: you always comment on our designs, expressing which feature you'd change and how... Try to apply that form of criticism and your sense of proportion to your Anri and you'll be fine. :)

Btw, I've noticed your TS characters all start off with the same features: large eyes, big hook-shaped nose, small chin. Maybe choose different slider settings altogether once you start off with a character to get away from that standard shape; keep experimenting, stay away from the extremes, and you'll get there. :)



@VC: Hihi, thanks! :) As I said, it was a spontaneous thought, and the result quite shocked me. And of course you're welcome to try it, I think it's an interesting thought. :)



@Petehog: Next to mochen's Harumi the best Asian lookalike yet. As for the dress, the one in the top picture is best... it sort of reminds me of the collar of a Chinese dress^^

#2546
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Caladhiel wrote...

Okay, I know I'm spamming the thread, but I had to get this off my chest.
I'm currently working on a female Duster, and during creation I was sort of letting her life as a Warden pass before my inner eye... and I thought about where it would lead her - the taint. What I came up with was... not very uplifting, to say the least:

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So this is Belkala... now and... then. She isn't really ready to be shown, not by a mile... but I just had to share. Placing the two pics next to each other really gave me the shivers.


Do you remember where the 'veins' came from? I cant seem to find them and they seem perfect for a blood mage.

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Do you remember where the 'veins' came from? I cant seem to find them and they seem perfect for a blood mage.

It's one of face textures from Gizmodian Faceworks add-on, http://www.dragonage...file.php?id=605

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tmp7704 wrote...

drewj1988 wrote...

Do you remember where the 'veins' came from? I cant seem to find them and they seem perfect for a blood mage.

It's one of face textures from Gizmodian Faceworks add-on, http://www.dragonage...file.php?id=605


Thank you :) just after I posted I found it :P

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Ok, took Mochen and LadyAly's advice.

This is version 2.

I changed the lips to look more....to my liking. Then I went back and actually made a customized eyebrow structure. Then I changed the skin color a bit.

First version is on left. New version is on right. It subsequently made her look a bit meaner...ha ha.

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#2550
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drewj: if you look in the past few pages, I said what the actual vein skin is called.



Petehog. both versions' eyes seem to be a little too far apart. *shrug*