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#251
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frontal shot please :)

and perhaps a profile shot, as well.

/facepalm. I tend to start the new pages. I've started 4 of the 11 pages so far in this thread. /epic facedesk.

Modifié par yasuraka.hakkyou, 26 avril 2010 - 04:40 .


#252
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@Petehog I'm sure we enjoying your *spam*



@Pode8 I vote Nr.1 but Personally I would make the Tattoo a bit lighter in the shade. It looks to *hard* on her porcelain face.



@eucatastrophe Very interesting design. I think the colours don't matching good with each other.

Skin is clearly to dark for my taste with such very white gleaming hair. The same for his emerald eyes - it looks pretty unnatural. I would make the hair more blond then white and using a normal green for the eyes.



@y.h. Haha - side high jacker


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@ Pode8 - I'm leaning towards version 2 but only because she has such a pretty face i can see more of it without the tattoo :)
@ Stippling - I only have 2 tattooed couslands. But then, I don't really use tattoo's very much anyway except on my weird designs...
@ eucatastrophe - nice design, any chance we could get more of a close-up shot?

Modifié par mochen, 26 avril 2010 - 12:52 .


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Stippling wrote...
Probably because of the stigma attached to it where people believe Human Nobles must be inexperienced.

I have not seen ANY person say anything about that, beside me. I have a personal feeling that the human noble is young and inexperienced. I get the personal feeling that he/she have not been in any real fights, only sparred with people in training. I have never seen anyone share this opinion I have. So I think you're wrong.

Stippling wrote...
Personally I think anyone who limits their story to stereotypes is hurting their enjoyment of a fully realized character. What if the kid got the tattoo as a rebellious gesture towards their parents? Furthermore, the idea that the Human Noble is an inexperienced fighter seems kind of like a bad assumption. The warden is surprised that he can't go fight with the others. The warden is a skilled fighter who is the true person Duncan sought after.


No I am not hurting my enjoyment. I LOVE to make chars that truly fit into their roles. A Cousland boy that looks like a younger Fergus, that hasn't been allowed to fight in real battles because his father doesn't want him to get hurt. That has gotten a lifelong training in tactics and sparred against people with awesome results... but still not been in battles of life and death. Is that a BAD assumption? Oo Alright, you may think so, but I definitely don't agree at all.
I feel kidn of insulted, seriously. I enjoy my game so much more if I think my character fit in, and not the opposite.


Too tired to comment on the designs posted, sorry. About the choices, I'd say v.2 since I find the tattoo to be a bit too distracting. You made a wonderful face, and you get to see it more without tattoos that draw attention away from her features.

#255
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Don't be silly V.C. - I'm pretty sure Stippling was NOT about to insult you. The gameplay style is the same as the *I like this Creation of yours thingie* - simple a matter of taste and what you prefer.

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I guess he wasn't, but I still FEEL insulted by such statements. Ohwell. I'm having a reallt crappy day. Will be back in a week or so.

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Stippling wrote...

yasuraka.hakkyou wrote...

axekix: why's that? just curious.


Probably because of the stigma attached to it where people believe Human Nobles must be inexperienced. Personally I think anyone who limits their story to stereotypes is hurting their enjoyment of a fully realized character. What if the kid got the tattoo as a rebellious gesture towards their parents? Furthermore, the idea that the Human Noble is an inexperienced fighter seems kind of like a bad assumption. The warden is surprised that he can't go fight with the others. The warden is a skilled fighter who is the true person Duncan sought after.

Wow, that's... umm... quite the tangent there.  No, actually experience has nothing to do with it.  It's simply the fact that facial tats are extremely rare on humans in game, and non-existant on nobles altogether. 

The only characters I ever put facial tats on are Dalish and DCs.  IMO they don't fit the HN/CE/DN backgrounds from a lore perspective and a lot of the time they can wind up looking way over the top.

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Stippling wrote...

Probably because of the stigma attached to it where people believe Human Nobles must be inexperienced. Personally I think anyone who limits their story to stereotypes is hurting their enjoyment of a fully realized character.

But isn't associating tattoos with experience a stereotype itself? Image IPB 

It certainly doesn't seem to be universal as there seems to be very few skilled fighters who actually use them. Tattoos in DA seem to be associated more with branding and generally low status -- some thugs, the casteless dwarves, the Dalish (Dalish use it different but the overall way the elves are viewed lends to giving tattoos a stigma). For all we know the tattoos in DA may be used like they were used in our own world in the past -- to visibly mark known criminals against their will, so anyone who meets them knows they are in fact criminals. In such case getting mark like this willingly would go well beyond "rebellious gesture towards the parents" unless you want to play an idiot HN.

Modifié par tmp7704, 26 avril 2010 - 11:29 .


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 Well - to be honest, I used a Tattoo on my last Char. She is a Cousland, a fire head and a rebel. Her Mother isn't pleased about - but its part of Daireen's personality.

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Also my NaChaya has a facial tattoo, but it has something to do with her past. I see nothing wrong to use a Tattoo on a Human-Char - if this is fitting in the way you want to play the Character.

Modifié par LadyAly, 26 avril 2010 - 01:27 .


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For some reason I thought I'd posted this character before, but I checked... and I didn't. She was a scrapped design, but I have recently resurrected her and put her in a silly dress.

Selina the city elf:
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Modifié par mochen, 26 avril 2010 - 04:11 .


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I'm pretty proud of  him - Ahab, Grey warden Commander of Vigils Keep, Orlesian

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Did you mod the piercings?

#263
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Yes it is a mod which works with the Char Creator - don't ask me which one :blush:    
But the  piercing comes with this braided hairstyle                               

Modifié par LadyAly, 26 avril 2010 - 05:13 .


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@ LadyAly - He is really good! I love how you did his eyes, and the piercing is a nice touch.

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Thx @mochen I was always thinking if you play Awakening with a new Character it should be someone experienced, older - abler to make swift decisions.

Ahab was maybe a pirate once ;P

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He looks like a decadent former chevalier, very fitting for an Orlesian grey warden. Image IPB

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LadyAly wrote...

Ahab was maybe a pirate once ;P


I see what you did there. <_< sneaky sneaky...:lol:

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All righty folks. I need some help here. I've been working on these Alistair designs and driving myself crazy.

I'm just about ready to throw in the towel.

Which version would you say fits the role of Alistair the best here? Also, which would you remove out of the designs listed?

It's a big image so I don't want to post it directly. But here's the link ==> Alistair versions

Also please be honest if you think the original still wins. That should offer me insight as to whether it makes sense for me to do this.

Here is the original for reference.

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Modifié par Petehog, 26 avril 2010 - 06:04 .


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@Petehog After staring of all 5 for a while = Nr. 2 is my favourite- give him hazel eyes and he is mine

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Petehog, I do not envy your task, I haven't tried it, but I can imagine how frustrating it must be. But in my honest opinion., the original is still the best for me. Whilst your designs are different, they're not really adding anything to the original. Like I said before, I personally feel alistair is perfect the way he is.

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Hard to say. I'd pick 17 for my games, then maybe the original. 14 and 16 aren't bad either; roughly as good as the original, though I'd still pick the original over them, sentimental reasons I guess. I dislike 10 and 2 because of the eyes.

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@Petehog I'd say #2 with darker eyes. I like the facial structure and expression for #2 the most out of the ones in your image. Perhaps ease up a bit on the middle forehead and left and right cheek blending to retain some of the creases from the original but that's purely personal preference on my part. Just based on my perception of him, he's a guy who's accustomed to smiling and cracking jokes and that would leave a subtle mark on his face. Again, mostly personal preference and interpretation on my part again.

Modifié par Tattercloak, 26 avril 2010 - 08:27 .


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Ahhhhhh, my post was taken incorrectly.

LadyAly wrote...

Don't be silly V.C. - I'm pretty sure Stippling was NOT about to insult you.


Absolutely not. In fact, I've talked with A LOT of people (both online and friends who play the game) who agree with your preferences completely. If fact, I was talking about this very subject with my co-worker yesterday afternoon, and he believed that the nobles should be soft, pale skinned, and young looking.

V.C., you took what I said as an insult/attack, and for that I am very sorry. To be honest I can't even remember you saying you prefer human nobles to be inexperienced, but I do remember from the general trend of the Prettiest Char Contest that Human Nobles were almost always with smooth soft skin.

At any rate, I'm sorry that what I said was taken as an insult. It wasn't directed at you, nor was it an insult in and of itself. What I meant to say, which could have been summed up much more simply, was "any design is right if it aids your enjoyment of the game". If I came off as a know-it-all absolutist, then that's polar opposite of my intent and I'm sorry.

Axekix wrote...

Wow, that's... umm... quite the tangent there.  No, actually experience has nothing to do with it.


Fair enough. Again, just stating my views and didn't mean to come off as I did.

P.S. - Just so I can keep contributing and not just talk, here's a fun morph I did. Everus refusing to take his Calling:

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Thanks for reading and once again, I apologize.

Modifié par Stippling, 26 avril 2010 - 07:42 .


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@ LadyAly: I'm really digging your Warden, he really looks like the ultimate commander! The only thing that doesn't come off too well is the eyebrow-piercing, it looks sort of misplaced. At any rate, it's always refreshing to have more mature-looking wardens around... that's one of the great things about DA:A: there's no restriction as to what age your char should be (not that there was a real 'restriction' in DA:O; it's just that the origins (storywise) were meant for younger characters)



@Petehog: I'd have to agree with mochen, love him to death the way he is.^^ But, as I already said in a previous post, it's more of a personal thing of mine (wanting to keep the chars the way they are). ;-)

#275
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new everus: ewwww :P