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@ Viruscat - Wow! That Leliana design is excellent. Thanks for the comment on Tristan :)

@ Noir - Dani is an amazing character. That's one of your best definitely. She's beautiful.

@ LadyAly - Striking design! I love your creativity! She's very unique. You've been making so many excellent characters lately. yay toolset!

@ AvatarHunter - You always come up with such good work. Sahara is a really interesting design. I like her a lot.

@ Nevari - Hedera looks half starved I think, Definitely a great look for the elven alienage anyway. And really good work getting the hair to work like that. Awesome stuff!

@ NubienIbex - Firstly I would make her eyes a bit smaller and make her nose a bit bigger. Interesting that you went for the completely bald look. That's one of the most challenging things to pull off. Definitely a good start though.

@ Zeleen - Ahh damn elf males are really hard to get right. You've done a good job with the braid hairstyle I must say. Perhaps the tattoo isn't quite right though. The way it joins up to his mouth is just putting me off somehow.

@ Megalust - She looks like she has such a great face, I'm having a little trouble seeing it though the tattoo though, perhaps lower the intensity and make it a less loud colour...maybe blue or green? I actually like the black eye look as well.



Ok, I've been a bit stuck for ideas lately so let me just throw a concept into the mix. I don't really feel that this design is finished. And I know you guys are always great with your constructive criticism. So I would like to know what I can do to improve this design. This is Locien, the crow assassin.

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I spoke of Quinton earlier.. here is his revision..
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I was going for the "pretty boy warrior" look with a hint of Marlan Brando

One little modification for Skelyr.. lightened the tat and darkened the eyebrows
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LadyAly: hmm. thing that jumps out at me is that her lipstick is BAM: in your face. maybe lighten up?

mochen: I think I see where you're coming from with the hair. Not a fan of those longer styles on guys tho. *shrug* Do you have the scars and such that Wyldsong uses on Riena? I think those work well on Crows. Might just be me. "fgka" skin texs and such.

I've been tweaking my Leliana.

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Anyone know how to fix the little thinger of white hair? :/

Modifié par yasuraka.hakkyou, 10 juillet 2010 - 09:41 .


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Adorable !!!!!!!!!!!! Y.H. - She is very beautiful - I heard you have to set the all hair things to the same red for rid off the white line.
About the lipstick - nope I can't. I tried to lighten it, but it bites then heavily with the tattoo and with her hair color. I needed 35 minutes to set up at least a red who fitted in.

@mochen awww. - thank you dear. About your assassin - I think the mouth gives him a slightly sheepish look. I would change that. Then I bet comes out a dangerous looking elf.

@Zeleen I can still remember Quinton V1 - I guess. I still like that one - or was it V2 ... Should scroll back.

I couldn't resist to make a quick first attempt for a male dalish
I'm so addicted - damnit

Here is Mayheem, Dalish archer and a very serious guy. He loves to read and learn about the Dalish history probably more as strolling around and hunt, even if he is pretty good with.

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mochen: yeah, maybe narrowing the mouth will help.



LadyAly: I see. - quick aside, anyone else feel like that tat is one of those fine Chinese kinda beards? *shrug* - um, no idea for improvements. I've only done one guy...

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I thought this is a lore tat ?? *wrinkles nose*
btw. it is so hard to find the original lore tattoos in toolset *>.<

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It's a genuine Dalish tat and all that, I just think it looks a lot like those fine Chinese beards. I'm weird like that :3

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Now as you mentioned it - ... I see that too :/ -
If it wasn't so hard to find the tat from the lore I would change it now ... It can't be I have only 4 in Toolset ? right ?

Edit: *bangs her head on keyboard ... I see - the channels !!! I'm such a idiot:unsure:

Modifié par LadyAly, 10 juillet 2010 - 10:03 .


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yasuraka.hakkyou wrote...

Anyone know how to fix the little thinger of white hair? :/

That shows up if you use custom hair colour which doesn't have an associated stubble tint file. Easiest way to fix it is to copy the .tnt file you've used for the hair, and then rename it by adding "t1_stb" at the front of name.

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Draden.. impoverished but not poor in spirit.. he is a proud but, humble being

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tmp7704 wrote...

yasuraka.hakkyou wrote...

Anyone know how to fix the little thinger of white hair? :/

That shows up if you use custom hair colour which doesn't have an associated stubble tint file. Easiest way to fix it is to copy the .tnt file you've used for the hair, and then rename it by adding "t1_stb" at the front of name.


It seems like the color I'm using has a counterpart. the hair color is pt_har_re2, and I found that there's a pt_stb_re2 color for the stubble / eyebrows. Is that what fixes it?

LadyAly: no you're not. Took me a while to figure out how to get all the Dalish tats. Although for the tats in the Char. Creator, I'd have to extract them from an .erf pack or some such thing right?

Modifié par yasuraka.hakkyou, 10 juillet 2010 - 10:16 .


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@ LadyAly & YH - Thanks for the feedback on my design. To be honest, I'm trying to force something from nothing. It's really hot weather and my brain is stiffled. And now it's my turn to be a bit crabby!

Maybe I'll come back to him at a later time. Right now looking at him is just making me angry.



YH your Leliana is lovely!

LadyAly another cool design! I like him :)

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mochen wrote...

now it's my turn to be a bit crabby!

YH your Leliana is lovely!


cue Schratty :P

and thank you :)

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yasuraka.hakkyou wrote...

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That shows up if you use custom hair colour which doesn't have an associated stubble tint file. Easiest way to fix it is to copy the .tnt file you've used for the hair, and then rename it by adding "t1_stb" at the front of name.


It seems like the color I'm using has a counterpart. the hair color is pt_har_re2, and I found that there's a pt_stb_re2 color for the stubble / eyebrows. Is that what fixes it?

Nope, this won't work -- the game has it hardcoded to remove "t3_har" from beginning of file name and the put "t1_stb" instead, there. This works for standard hair files resulting in game correctly looking for "t1_stb_colour" as a match for "t3_har_colour", but since the custom hair has "pt" in the beginning nothing at all gets removed and the game tries to look for "t1_stbpt_har_re2" which doesn't exist. Image IPB

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@ Neveri: I think you successfully pulled off the gaunt and haggard city elf look. I'm not personally a fan of green hair, but then again, I'm also a giant buzzkill. So, ignore me. You know, she actually kind of reminds me of pretty Cate Blanchett:
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@ Noir: I really like Dani, she looks very young and a little sad, too. Very pretty :D

@ Tyrax: Don't you lie to me! I know it's all a conspiracy :P Haha, well, when you have time, I'm so looking forward to seeing those screens :D

@ AvatarHunter: I really like Vincent and Nicholai. They look like they could be brothers. Also, maybe it's just the eyes and nose, but Nicholai looks a bit sinister ;)

@ Zeleen: Well, I like the braid, but then again, I was one of the ones whining about the original hairstyle :P He is a great design, either way, so it's ultimately what you like best :D


@ LadyAly: Reisha's looking good! I agree with Y.H. about the lipstick, but other than that, I really can't see anything else worth tweaking :)

@ mochen: Even lacking inspiration, you still manage to come up with a good base design. I really like the facial hair (in your face, Dragon Age Lore!!). As for constructive criticism, I'm totally drawing a blank right now :/

@ Y.H.: Your Leliana is very pretty. I especially like her eye shape. Not a huge fan of the hair-color, but it's my turn to be crabby today :P

Modifié par Schratty, 11 juillet 2010 - 01:26 .


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Okay - I considered to give Reisha another Lip colour, or remove the lip colour complete.
I still think she has the most personality with the dark lipstick - beside the colour harmony is much more perfect.

Audience - tell me what best ... (( click for the full picture ))

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@AvatarHunter, great designs, all of them. Sahara has a stern, yet kind look over her, I like the dark eyes. Vincent looks very handsome, love the scar on his cheek. Nicholai looks somewhat smug and sinister, I dig it. :)



@Zeleen, hm, I think I prefer him with the braid actually. I like the ponytail, but the braid just feels a bit more Dalish for some reason. The lighter tattoo and darker eyebrows suits him as well, makes his eyes come out more. Quinton looks awesome, honestly. He looks ''pretty-boy-yet-manly''. I think Draden looks very much like a CE, you can see he's not lived the most comfortable life, and at the same time that he's not the type to just give up. Well done, on all of them. :)



@LadyAly, the dye kit is great, isn't it? I love the way you dyed that robe, it suits her perfectly. She looks very beautiful, and personally I like her the best with the dramatic lipstick, it suits her character more than none at all or the lighter one. The dark one also goes very well with her dark red hair, I think both of them together makes her pretty face really stand out.



@mochen, Locien looks to me more or less finished, love the facial hair and the choice of hairstyle. As for constructive criticism, afraid I can't be of much help there, sorry. :<



@Schratty, awh noes, you won't be joining the ''Hedera's green hair'' fanclub then?

'tis fine, we all have our preferences. :) And hm, she does look a bit like pretty Cate, doesn't she? I'm half tempted to try to actually make her look like her now. Or, make her a pretty sister.

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@ LadyAly: Hmm...between those three version, I like the first and the second ones.



@ Neveri: Haha, I guess I won't :P You should totally make her a pretty sister!

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Neveri: I agree that braids are more "dalish."

Schratty: guess I should have said "cue Schratty with a grumpy morph for mochen :P". Thank you for the Leliana compliment :) and I prefer a red-haired beauty, not a carrothead pouty lips :lol:

Modifié par yasuraka.hakkyou, 11 juillet 2010 - 04:56 .


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@Schratty, ah darn, and here I was hoping you'd be club president and all. Curses!

I might just make her a pretty sister, having her as a mage would be fitting, no? Else it'd just be a bit too much.. common dwarf story gone elven. Hm.

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Let's see if it works...

Modifié par yasuraka.hakkyou, 11 juillet 2010 - 06:15 .


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@ Schratty & Nevari - Thanks for the comments, it makes me feel a little bit better about him now :)

@ LadyAly - I prefer the dark lipstick too. I'd keep it.

This is a new design. her name is Bryony. I wanted to make a Ferelden peasent girl. Perhaps the daughter of a farmer from the bannorn.

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@Mochen: wow great design, what mods did you use, I know tmp's Hair but what else? and is the armor base game?

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marquiseondore: For your 'took days' Elf, I think her Jaw needs narrowed a bit, & raised a bit. You might also need to raise the Mouth up a little after the Jaw is raised. Then we can see how she's faring afterwards.

Neveri: Ahh, ok. Dalish Leather will suffice then.

Hedera's 'Dalish Fascination' cover story looks plausible. If she was among the Elves working in the main city area like some others do, like for example a Tavern Waitress, she could 'overhear' Dalish info from gossiping travelers. I bet it wouldn't be hard for her to do the overhearing either as long as she doesn't fall behind in her work or do anything attention-grabbing.

VirusCat: Patience... It's normal for me to have less time for fun stuff on Weekends. (Yes, I know that sounds weird, but I have a weird life.)

megalust: Ohh, if only there was a way for her 'dark Eyes' to be set as normal Eyes, & have some kinda trigger cause her dark Eyes to 'light up' into her prior light Eyes she had before. That would be so cool! :D

With that said, her light Eyes suited her better, those dark Eyes make her look like her Willpower & Spirit have been crushed & she's lost all light in her soul... as if she may have fallen to & been possessed by a Demon. Consider getting Pineappletree's Vibrant Colors for your Eye needs, that Mod includes additional Eye Textures. I vouch for it's awesomeness! :happy:

NubianIbex: I agree with prior suggestions to small the Eyes, enlarge the Nose, & to add to these suggestions, also consider Tattooing her. Optionally, consider narrowing her Jaw just a smidgen, & moving her Chin forward a little.

tmp7704: I like that version of Marjolaine! She looks primed & ready for a seduction on an assasination target!

AvatarHunter: I'm not sure, but to me, it looks like Sahara's Jaw might be a little too wide for the Height of her Face. It may need narrowed a little. Also, consider giving her a smidgen more Cheek Width.

Vincent looks like the kinda guy that would be stern & dutiful, yet capable of being friendly in non-serious circumstances. He's got character, I think he's ready to go. :)

I'm impressed! It looks like ya gave Nicholai a large prominent Chin & made it work on him! He also has good character & looks complete. :D

Zeleen: ... :blink: EEEEWWWWW!!! :sick: Those Pigtails look GROSS on him! How could ya do that to him!!? I dunno about that Ponytail either... That can work on him only if ya switch his Weapon Focus to GreatSwords so he can possibly look kinda Elf Samurai. Otherwise, I have to give BOTH of those 2 Hairstyles a fail. My apologies if this is offensive. Consider a 'Wild' looking Hair for him instead, so he can look like a handsome, dashing wilderness dweller/hunter.

Quinton might just be done now... I don't see anywhere to improve.

Draden's got character! Though he looks in his 30s to 40s & that might look a bit awkward in the City Elf Origin.

LadyAly: Reisha still looks great! I think having her Lip Color match her Hair Color is working for her! She looks like a Noble Arcane Lady! :D The non-Hair matching Lip Colors work too, but not quite as well.

Mayheem's lookin good, but I think it may be worth a try to enlarge his Mouth a little. That's about it.

mochen: I like what you're doing with Locien! I think he would work better if both of his Lips were narrow instead of just the upper Lip. Having a very thin upper Lip & a very poofy lower Lip looks kinda odd. Also consider narrowing his Mouth a little. He also might have a little 'Chimp Mouth' interfering with his looks, but i've never been able to figure out how this effect comes about or any guaranteed ways to deal with it, so I dunno how to advise ya there.

Bryony looks the part perfectly! Her Face in that Screenie suggests to me that she may have natural talent in sneakiness... :devil: :bandit:

yasuraka.hakkyou: Your version of Leliana's adorable! Her 3rd Screenie's hilarious! :lol: It looks like she's had over 10 Bottles of Alchohol & is totally plastered! Her 5th Screenie looks as if she's been angered & she's getting very cheeky-mouthed in retaliation! :P

Schratty: Patience, Schratty! I can't rush to stuff like this & blow off my rl stuff! :whistle:

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Thanks all - I will keep Reisha with dark Lipstick, I was nearly sure its was the best choice for her.

@mochen OMG - this peasant girl is awesome. Where you got the cloth for her ?

@Tyrax yep - Changed the tattoo and made his mouth a tad wider
I MUST change the Tattoo - instead of thinking in chinese beard I think now on a fish ....
Lookies  http://www.taucher.net/redaktion/43/austria/wels.jpg <_< 

But I'm really satisfied how he looks 

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