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[Nowshin]

I am satisfied, but I'm still willing to improve. Even my canon HNF, whose design I absolutely adore, gets frequent tweaks every now and then. And I agree with you on the comments thing, sometimes another person can spot problems in your morph which eludes you. The reason for this is that when we stare at one design for too long our eyes adapt themselves to that design and cannot separate the problematic elements. I myself have found that after leaving a design to dust for a while, when I come back I always find at least one thing that escaped me before.

[LadyAly]

wow - you guys are crazy - so much posted - I will look closer later.
@Nowshin I appreciate your critic very much. In fact - ( don't hate me ) I created her with less care and ashamed I have to admitt it was a provocation. I was simple curious who has the balls to say what is wrong ( like the brows *lol* )
I agree heartily with mochen in this case - always saying nice things helps no one and will be only let you make the same fault over and over again.
*hugs Nowshin and declares love to her and mochen*

Modifié par LadyAly, 15 août 2010 - 10:02 .

[Nowshin]

*hugs back and accepts love* Well I think the reason behind the recent trend is there have been many newbies in this thread and if someone receives harsh critic on the first design they make they might lose interest. People who have more experience often spot the mistakes the new people make, but they automatically cut them some slack at first so as to not discourage them too much.



P.S. Actually I myself started posting here only weeks ago, and I started twuddling with the morphs only 1 1/2 month or so ago. Does that make me a noob as well? lol

[LadyAly]

oh my - I guess between harsh critic and well posted constructive criticism is a thick line.

I guess I am more noobish than you Nowshin. Before my Toolset was working I had only the CC and my album for that creations makes me still proud if I browse through.

BUT - this designs in CC especially, were only possibly through constructive critic and pointing out into the right direction.

Now I need something to eat *grins*

[Nowshin]

It is much, much harder to make commendable creations in the CC compared to the toolset, so I think you deserve extra praise for that. As do the people who provided that critic.



Whooo, Morrigan's teeth are finally fixed...thank goodness. Off to nexus now. Should I make a redesign for wynne too? Personally I found her Vanilla morph pretty fitting for her character, but does anybody have suggestions?

[Chairon de Celeste]

mochen wrote...

This is Sara

Great job - I'm just a bit stumped about the resmblance between your avatar
and Sara; mostly eyes, eyebrows and mouth  - I don't say that is a bad thing

It would really irritate me if  it was like the resemblance between Draconies'
Gheyna (Cammlen's love interest in the 'Nature Of The Beast' dalish camp)
and Draconie's 'Leliana's Song' dlc Leliana override morphs hence this is a
replacer mod.

The way I understood Nowshin's reply it was just friendly teasing
- not a 'don't you dare critizise Draconies!'

Modifié par Chairon de Celeste, 15 août 2010 - 10:38 .

[Nowshin]

Sometimes this happens, I've seen that some good-looking morphs made by the same designer tend to have similarities since our conception of beauty doesn't change.I've felt the urge to put some basic features that I like in every morph that I make, and it frustrates me sometimes.



BTW Chairon de Celeste please download the new aesthetics version at nexus with the teeth fix, it seems better now, IMO.

[Chairon de Celeste]

Nowshin wrote...

Sometimes this happens, I've seen that some good-looking morphs made by the same designer tend to have similarities since our conception of beauty doesn't change.I've felt the urge to put some basic features that I like in every morph that I make, and it frustrates me sometimes.

BTW Chairon de Celeste please download the new aesthetics version at nexus with the teeth fix, it seems better now, IMO.

Thanks and I've 'ed myself with an edit of my previous post

[Nowshin]

And yeah Charion that was what I meant hence the in that post XD

Modifié par Nowshin, 15 août 2010 - 10:49 .

[awpdevil]

Well I finally decided to halt my thirst for blood with warriors n such, and decided to make my first mage. I had made a previous one, but didn't play him long, and ended up deleting him. I just can't do the guy mages, so I looked through some mods on nexus and with the help of three. I ended up with this...




I find her to be quite... well... gorgeous. Definitely gonna stick to girl mages.

[Chairon de Celeste]

@Mochen
Yes - I've meant similar, not spitting image with just different hair

Modifié par Chairon de Celeste, 15 août 2010 - 10:53 .

[Nowshin]

Actually I don't find Sara that similar to your avatar, but I found another one of your designs many pages back very similar to it. I don't remember her name, though,only that she wore black and had an angry face.



BTW Sara's dress is amazing.

[Chairon de Celeste]

If I may add - I like the friendly, civilized tone here
and the afaik always constructive criticism

It always helped me too to get at least a day distance between
me, my baby aka character design  and constructive criticism.

I just wouldn't want it like what seems to happen to Aimo quite often

I'm glad that doesn't occur here.

Modifié par Chairon de Celeste, 15 août 2010 - 12:27 .

[Nowshin]

I think the only things that I think new people need to be told clearly are:
1. While capturing screenshots pressing "V" helps.
2. Close up shots are necessary if others are to give feedback on the face. If you don't know how, walking close to a wall and rotating the camera always helps
3. There are some places in DA world where the lighting really, really sucks. Try to avoid posting your screenies in those places.
4. Characters drenched in blood are hard to see, so avoid that too unless you're deliberately trying to make that char look intimidating.

I hope that helps:blush:

Modifié par Nowshin, 15 août 2010 - 01:34 .

[LadyAly]

@KenzeKillah Even if your PC is crap - she looks quite good. The screenshots you made are good, though.

@mochen Sara is a wonderful design - especially this amazing dress. All colors fit her well.

@Saerwen She is pretty - but I don't like this eye style on her - or it is too big. Maybe give her a tad more squeeze ? 

@Forlorn welcome back - and she is a truely demonic child *thumbs*

@adneate OH - the freckles !!! Faye is so cute - but both designs are very you - I really like the way you create characters.

@awpdevil Yes she looks gorgeous - can we see more of her ?

@Chairon de Celeste Ookay - I guess I need something to say about the *similarity* of pictures/designs/Avatars
Everyone has his own fiction in mind of what is beauty - right ? So mochen's designs are exquisite and branded from her vision and style to make. SO are adneates,  Neveris, Nowshin, Petehog - your own - etc etc
So I find it a bit .. mmh.. unfair to criticise that a avatar looks similar to a design. That isn't the point of this thread nor has it to do with design. If you compare the pictures you will always find some similarity due to the points I mentioned. I see it on my own ones - they have a unique style - which I would say it is only my style to make designs.
I guess this is the point who you could hurt feelings or annoy people and change the friendly tone here.
Even if mochen said she has *point taken*
I for myself would be angry - sorry. Its a discredit of the designing style imo.

Modifié par LadyAly, 15 août 2010 - 12:52 .

[Chairon de Celeste]

@ LadyAly: I know you mean well and will wait for Mochen's answer in this thread.



@ NowShin 2 screenshots you may save to disk and use for your mod page if you like.

[Nowshin]

Wow Morri looks heavenly in that armor :wub: What armor is that? I think I've seen it but can't remember....

Orzammar's lighting is so awesome that I'm compelled to post this pic...

[adneate]

@Nowshin Having taken a look at your Morrigan I have two major things I can offer as advice. I looked at it a number of times and I think I can say that the big thing I notice are her eyebrows. In relation to the rest of her face they are too high, the angle they're at is fine but the actual position of the face should probably come down.

I think if you centered them on that very top horizontal line it should get rid of the sort of "Floaty" aspect the brows currently have.

The other thing would be colour selection, your Aesthetics version is very dark, black eye shadow and dark lipstick. A really dark colour palette can work but I think Morrigan always works a bit better with a slightly more exotic colour pallette of purples. She's supposed to have an exotic wild quality to her, personally I don't know if black is the best choice to portray something like that.

@Mochen Really cool guy there! what skin tint is that? I can't seem to place it.

[Chairon de Celeste]

Nowshin wrote...

Wow Morri looks heavenly in that armor :wub: What armor is that? I think I've seen it but can't remember....

Orzammar's lighting is so awesome that I'm compelled to post this pic...

Awesome indeed

The armor is the Armor Of The Pious from the Armor Of The Devout modification - so heavenlly fits

And Mochen - that new character is simply adoreable!

Modifié par Chairon de Celeste, 15 août 2010 - 05:56 .

[Schratty]

@ LiquidGrape: Her sharp nose and the shape of her lips help give her a "snotty" appearance. Would you mind posting more pics of her?

@ Caladhiel: Faye still very much = WIN

@ PanoSmirnakos: Orlesian Warden - He does look very Warden-Commander-y, though he would probably benefit from having his nose and mouth raised a bit.


@ LadyAly: Morrigan - I happen to like the purple make-up scheme. But, I would suggest changing her eyebrows to "regular" and making her upper lip a little plumper. She's a solid start, though

@ Tyrax: Sorry the hair color didn't work for you. It seemed like a pretty intense dark red on my machine, but oh well

@ KenzeKillah: Sxin's a pretty good CC design. I really like your choice of eyes, but yeah, the jaw is maybe a hair on the wide side. Still, good work!

@ Saerwen: Tattoos usually look awful on my designs, but you seem to have a real gift for making them work well on your morphs. That said, I think Isabella's tattoo is crazy awesome. Her eyes are a bit on the big side and you might consider raising her chin a smidge, but those are minor things.

@ Forlorn: Usha's face proportions are very good and her lips are simply amazing. But, as already mentioned, she does seem rather sad for a seductress

@ adneate: Anya - Maybe it's because I'm a big softy who always plays "good" characters, but I prefer Anya to her "snotty" counterpart. Not a huge fan of the lip color, but that's simply a matter of different aesthetic tastes

Faye - In a word? Adorable! She looks like a more tomboyish version of her "sister".


@ Nowshin: You've done a great job on Morrigan. I'd probably like the aesthetic version more than the lore if her make-up wasn't quite as intense. Personal preference; stellar work regardless.

@ awpdevil: She looks very elegant from the one screenshot provided. I'm going to make a request for additional screens, though

@ mochen: Keenan is...well, you already know...I approve



On the other end of the spectrum from mochen's incredibly grizzled and manly Keenan...

I thought to myself, what would happen if Leliana and Ser Gilmore had an extremely smarmy baby...I was going to name him Ser Ponceface, but decided to go with "Luc" instead.

Luc (aka Ser Ponceface)
An Orlesian Chevalier and a smarmy d-bag.

Modifié par Schratty, 15 août 2010 - 06:32 .

[Nowshin]

@Mochen:Oh my That is the most badass looking charcater ( without looking like a crazy mass murderer) to grace this thread. Love the way you used the thick lips. Sorry no constructive criticism:P

@adneate: Thanks a lot for the advice, I'll see if I can manage to lower the eyebrows without messing up the arc.

[Citadel569]

Hello y'all.

I'm a newcomer here. (bows head)

I unfortunately only use the character creator. The toolset is so complex. But it's so dazzling to see all of these dazzling designs by dazzling people.

Great job everyone!

And high fives!

Chairon de Celeste wrote...

Nowshin wrote...Hey don't say such naughty things[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie] Dracomies has so many nice designs[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png[/smilie]

Well to put it this way - sometimes folks request odd morphs
and sometimes Draconies does them the favor 

If you are talking about Dragon Age redesigned, I totally agree. He has like 12 different versions of Morrigan.

I personally am a lore nut so I use his True Lore Morrigan which he released last week.


@Mochen

You post some great work!

@Nowshin and Adneate

This is regarding the comment above made by Adneate to Nowshin. I mean no disrespect to anyone but Nowshin I would keep your Morrigan the same. Changing your design would make yours the same as Adneate's Lore version. And i wouldn't change it. Not saying anyone here is better or bad. I'm just saying...KEEP your style. That is what makes YOU unique. Each of y'all have your own style.