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#1076
Forlorn

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@FreemanPhD Overall nice job, the could be made a bit bigger. but no biggie imo.
@LadyAly Really amazing job on Isilwen and personally i think the sexy armor suits her quite nicely though i doubt i'd ever use it.
@bandy1 She's pretty, but her head seems a bit small........
@Orion113 Nice job on your mage she's quite pretty.

Here's a two characters i've been working on.
My Tevinter Arcane Warrior Cholik
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My Dalish Keeper (Mage) Asenath

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Modifié par Forlorn, 17 mai 2010 - 04:35 .


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@FreemanPhD: I get what you mean. i tried my characters in other uniform colors only the red uniform color worked. Your also right about the light skin color. I tried it other skin tones and it wasn't good. I guess i like red-haired elves with red make up,with red.... etc. I'll try using color combinations in the future.



Anyway, the tattoo combination and color intensity on Liam Cousland is really good.

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Forlorn wrote...

@bandy1 She's pretty, but her head seems a bit small........


Thank you.

As for the size, I think it's just the angle of that first shot. I was thinking the same thing when I posted it earlier Posted Image.

She doesn't look that way in game, and I only shortened her chin by one " click " during creation.

Let me see if I can pull off a better profile shot for ya.


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Modifié par bandy1, 17 mai 2010 - 05:46 .


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@Freeman PhD your the man dude... i wish i could make a character as good as you. btw where your name is from?

Modifié par pasty_buns, 17 mai 2010 - 05:49 .


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Weew.. my Elissa Cousland    i love her

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Wyldsong wrote...
As for the Morr's you just posted, I like the Bidelle version quite a bit. You need to release that for me.


I did that yesterday, in the mod linked in my signature.
I'm happy that someone else liked my Morrigan... I've not gotten too many nice comments about her so far.

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alsiony wrote...

Weew.. my Elissa Cousland    i love her

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 I like her expression and her eyes:)

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bandy1 wrote...

Forlorn wrote...

@bandy1 She's pretty, but her head seems a bit small........


Thank you.

As for the size, I think it's just the angle of that first shot. I was thinking the same thing when I posted it earlier Posted Image.

She doesn't look that way in game, and I only shortened her chin by one " click " during creation.

Let me see if I can pull off a better profile shot for ya.


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It's the armor that creates that effect. The shoulderpads give her very wide shoulders, which makes the head smaller and disproportionate. It's one of the things I like about the Blade Dancer armor, no shoulderpads. :P

Although I'd admit the BD armor looks more like a string bikini than combat armor. Especially the default look which looks quite painful. And I don't see how the 2 leather straps prevents her chest from flying out of her armor. :o

I made my Leliana with a smaller face, intentionally. Her voice to me is that of a smaller, younger person, which makes her come to life. The default face just seems "off" to me. It's rare that I notice my characters' faces in combat or exploring, so it's only in dialogue that I see the face, which most of the time is from the neck or shoulders up. In which case her smaller face is not noticeably disproportionate to the size of her body.

Modifié par Orion113, 17 mai 2010 - 10:42 .


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@ Forlorn - Cholik is a cool design. I like how you got the whispy girl hair to work on a guy. I tried to do that a few times but I never got it to work properly.

@ Alsiony - She has a simple beauty to her, nice job!

@ Orion - Thanks for the comment on my Leliana! Yours is an interesting design, her eyes are very big and kind of anime. I think the look works, but I wouldn't use it personally. I can see the Jessica Alba influence in your other chars too, nice work!


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BTW if I may be so bold, I don't believe artists should try to appease anyone but themselves.

I know what I like, in a female face. If I tried to appease every comment about how the eyes are too big, the neck is too small, or maybe the mouth is too small, I'd go nuts. And the funny thing is, there will always be some people that will then complain that the original version was better. LOL.

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Orion113 wrote...

BTW if I may be so bold, I don't believe artists should try to appease anyone but themselves.

I know what I like, in a female face. If I tried to appease every comment about how the eyes are too big, the neck is too small, or maybe the mouth is too small, I'd go nuts. And the funny thing is, there will always be some people that will then complain that the original version was better. LOL.


I agree, sorry if you took my comment the wrong way. I assumed you wanted feedback on the design.

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Again I feel I need to repeat myself.

It's very, very important that people understand that THEY HAVE THEIR FULL RIGHT TO IGNORE ANY AND ALL SUGGESTIONS.



This is what the first post in this thread says:



"I like constructive critisism and will gladly listen to it. I might not change anything but I like to get hints on how to improve on a particular design. Don't worry about having a completely different view on anything, it's all about different people's opinions.



Say for example I post a guy I find cool, but you don't think so. You might think I need to lower his jaws and make the nose bigger. Then say so! I would consider your points, try them and either revert back to my standard guy or actually use your suggestion and "learn" something new - That other things than your own can be awesome to try too."

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^ I agree with you 100% VirusCat.

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mochen wrote...

Orion113 wrote...

BTW if I may be so bold, I don't believe artists should try to appease anyone but themselves.

I know what I like, in a female face. If I tried to appease every comment about how the eyes are too big, the neck is too small, or maybe the mouth is too small, I'd go nuts. And the funny thing is, there will always be some people that will then complain that the original version was better. LOL.


I agree, sorry if you took my comment the wrong way. I assumed you wanted feedback on the design.


LOL! Sorry I didn't think that people would take this the wrong way. I'm not offended, this was not something I said to defend myself, or to be argumentative. I've just seen these kinds of comments here and on DA Nexus, and the author trying to appease them.

@Mochen, your morphs have a very natural and life-like appearance. It really shows me just how far I have to go before I can master the toolset to create something I really like. As it is, I'm always finding flaw with my morphs, and just can't seem to get the look I want.

I think the biggest problem is people's ability to convey their idea of beauty. It's like music, if the sound is off just a little, it ruins the entire song, and draws all the attention to that one flaw.

As for the anime look, I never realized it could be interpreted that way. Her face is small and the camera focus seems to affect the size of them, depending on the distance. Further away my human morph has bigger eyes (they're big, but proportionate to her face) than Leliana, and Leliana looks like she has small or perhaps "average" sized eyes.
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thanks mochen ^^

Comment time!

@Suicider_11
I would tone down the makeup a bit, especially the rouge.
Other than that, a very characteristic girl!

@tmp7704
When I read that post right before going to sleep last night I actually IRL Facepalmed myself so hard that my boyfriend got worried xD Of course you can do that! I use stuff like renaming files all the time and I still didn't think of that. I feel soooo stupid! :D

@bandy1
Wonderful girl! Nothing is to vanilla for this thread. People who think that can go visit the freaky or prettiest thread ;) This i a "character I'm proud of"-thread and she fits right in!
The elf guy's mouth bothers me a bit, otherwise a very solid and fitting guy too!

@Orion113
I don't really agree there :P Facial Structure IS hard in DAO since it's all screwed up xD
Trying to ignore that the characters seem to have stepped out before dressing, they look awesome :3

That Leliana is cute too, but I think she's lacking a little jaw, and she's a bit too young for my taste. As said, extremely cute tho O:

@FreemanPhD
Sadly you're right. Angle and such would be wonderful to be able to tweak and no we can't AFAIK.

@yasuraka.hakkyou
I can't actually. It's horrible and would hurt SO much to wear. If someone comes up with a sexy, comfortable look... I would download that in a hurry :P

@Forlorn
In the last pic, the hair actually fits him and he looks awesome, in the other pics I can't see beyond the unnatural look of that haistyle :( It's so damn static.
Asenath on the other hand... omnomnom <3


I wish I could show off somethign more interesting, but I'm only sitting here working on my NPC replacement mod (since a particular other replacement mod doesn't suit my tastes anymore...)
This is for example the changes to Bryce Cousland, seen in game.
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Orion113

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@Mochen, Did you use Bidelle's eyes for your Leliana? I can't believe I passed over that mod so many times and never noticed the eyeliner. That's what I've been looking for!!

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VirusCat wrote...

I wish I could show off somethign more interesting, but I'm only sitting here working on my NPC replacement mod (since a particular other replacement mod doesn't suit my tastes anymore...)
This is for example the changes to Bryce Cousland, seen in game.
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Maybe I'm just being really dumb, but those look identical to me... ? Posted Image Is this a redesign?

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FreemanPhD wrote...
@ Mlai00 - Yeah, it always shocks me when I see the PC's make a different face expression.
The expressions are from these scenes:
1. Morrigan's Ritual
2, 3. Getting arrested after saving Anora streaking in the market square.
4. Leliana's song
5. Owning the Archdemon

LOL fixed #2 for you.;)

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@ Forlorn:

Asenath the DEF reminds me of her...

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Yeah, obscure reference. But it makes her really cool afaic.



@ bandy1:

Are you using the huge melons mod? Dang that mod is ridiculous. Her breasts are each larger than her head.



@ Orion:

I don't even want to know what mods you're using, LOL.

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meathook wrote...

VirusCat wrote...

I wish I could show off somethign more interesting, but I'm only sitting here working on my NPC replacement mod (since a particular other replacement mod doesn't suit my tastes anymore...)
This is for example the changes to Bryce Cousland, seen in game.
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Maybe I'm just being really dumb, but those look identical to me... ? Posted Image Is this a redesign?


Haha, identical? Oo My biggest problem with the original was the clipping ear/hair. THAT must be noticable at least? Also the very sharp face, so I made his features just a tad bit more like I wanted them. You can see that on his left side. From the eye to the chin. That line has a completely different structure :3
I find that easy to see... but I'm the one who made the changes after all.
I wonder if I can figure out how to create a switching .gif file of those 2 pics... changes should be very noticable if I can do that.

Overall Bryce is very well made, and my remake mod will have sliiiight changes to the NPCs so that I can tweak small faults but still keep the hawk noses, the odd chins or anything else that I see as characteristic. Just a little more harmony but basically not very noticable. I'm not aiming to make a mod where people will go "Oh, that's completely changed" or "She didn't look like that in the original game". More of a mod that will remove the stuff that BOTHERS me about the chars, but keep them lore-friendly. Exceptions are the party-members.

Modifié par VirusCat, 17 mai 2010 - 01:08 .


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@Mlai - Those aren't the body mods doing that, it's the armor itself. A nude mod doesn't alther the armor, it just alters what you see when you take the armor off. The enlarged chest area is just part of their chosen armor design.



@Virus - I'll be downloading the mod with Morr and trying it out shortly. I'll let you know how it goes.

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@ Orion - Thank you for the compliment :) Her face looks better proportioned in that new screenshot, maybe it was a camera trick before.
The only mods I used for my Leliana were Petehogs eyes, and the freckles mod. At least, I think that was all... I don't have access to my PC right now to double check.

Modifié par mochen, 17 mai 2010 - 01:12 .


#1098
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I just stated that :3 The ears/hair-clipping bothered me, and so did the puffy cheeks... or whatever we should call it. I just feel the new design is more... in harmony so to speak. I'm aiming to make those kind of changes to every char in the game. If people rather use some other complete redesign or none at all doesn't matter too much to me. I do this for my own perfect playthrough and just figured I could drop the mod out too.

Oh, you deleted the question....

Modifié par VirusCat, 17 mai 2010 - 01:15 .


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hehe you replied to meathook before i finished writing my post

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Heh. Guess I won't be posting anymore pics from my mod from now on >-< I don't even know why I try to show it to peeps. :P When a certain other person did the same thing people got all "WOOOOOOAAAH".*cough*