The Character Show Off
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#1401
Posté 04 juin 2010 - 01:33
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Alright let's see, here's Sylvia again after a little tweaking. I actually ended up just changing the eyes and eyebrows completely and altered the mouth a tiny bit.
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#1402
Posté 04 juin 2010 - 02:40
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@Cala - The scalp tat does come through quite nicely in game, and that look goes well in full plate armor with a sword in hand. I tried it out last night and I was pleasantly surprised.
@Avatar - I like the tweaks, although there is something bugging me about Sylvia. I can't quite put my finger on it, but she is going in the right direction. I'll think on it and see if I can come up with an answer. She is definitely very pretty as is though. I know you are going for a softer look with Sylvia, and I can't quite out my finger on it, but something is throwing it out of whack for me...
@Avatar - I like the tweaks, although there is something bugging me about Sylvia. I can't quite put my finger on it, but she is going in the right direction. I'll think on it and see if I can come up with an answer. She is definitely very pretty as is though. I know you are going for a softer look with Sylvia, and I can't quite out my finger on it, but something is throwing it out of whack for me...
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Posté 04 juin 2010 - 02:53
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The Jaw still looks a bit too square...Wyldsong wrote...
@Cala - The scalp tat does come through quite nicely in game, and that look goes well in full plate armor with a sword in hand. I tried it out last night and I was pleasantly surprised.
@Avatar - I like the tweaks, although there is something bugging me about Sylvia. I can't quite put my finger on it, but she is going in the right direction. I'll think on it and see if I can come up with an answer. She is definitely very pretty as is though. I know you are going for a softer look with Sylvia, and I can't quite out my finger on it, but something is throwing it out of whack for me...
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Posté 04 juin 2010 - 03:11
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that, and the eyes look a little too harsh to me. You want a spirit healer, kind and caring kinda mage, right?
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Posté 04 juin 2010 - 03:34
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I did initially want a softer look but now that I changed it I think I like it more this way. Slanted and almond eyes seem to be in more the favor of elves to me.
@ Tyrax I have no problem with the jawline looking a little square, in fact I actually intended it to look that way. I always shoot for imperfect or sharp features over soft and rounded, it comes off as more realistic and less uniform to me. I mean take a look at Reese's jawline here, her jawline features are very sharp. I sort of make a mental note of different faces I come across and use it as a reference so I have some distinction and difference in my character face shapes. Thinking outside the box is all.
@ Tyrax I have no problem with the jawline looking a little square, in fact I actually intended it to look that way. I always shoot for imperfect or sharp features over soft and rounded, it comes off as more realistic and less uniform to me. I mean take a look at Reese's jawline here, her jawline features are very sharp. I sort of make a mental note of different faces I come across and use it as a reference so I have some distinction and difference in my character face shapes. Thinking outside the box is all.
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#1406
Posté 04 juin 2010 - 06:46
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yasuraka.hakkyou wrote...
that, and the eyes look a little too harsh to me. You want a spirit healer, kind and caring kinda mage, right?
Yasu and Tyrax hit the nail on the head with the problem, although I wouldn't say the eyes make it too harsh, but give it that exotic, almost seductive look, and the jawline makes it a little harsh. But, if you like the look you have, then rock on with it. Like I said, she is definitely pretty, she just didn't entirely have that soft look. But going for the imperfect/realism thing works just fine imho. The only other thing I can think is maybe thinning out the face just slightly, but that is just my opinion...
#1407
Posté 04 juin 2010 - 08:04
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AvatarHunter: Ahh, my apologies. When I spoke my mind, I didn't know your game plan. I can definitely understand the strategy of 'realistically imperfect'. I've done that too, on multiple characters, including Tayo. 
Not all characters are optimum as a supermodel. In that case, she's ready to go as is. 
Speaking of which, Tayo's the last rescuable character I still need to finish resurrecting, but before I do it, I need to finish optimizing her & getting her design ready to go in all respects. Her anatomy & colors are done, including her 'realistically imperfect' part of the strategy, but 0 of the default BioWare Hairstyles are adequate for her & my design plan for her. I think she needs a mod hair to be completed, & i'm a newbie to Mods, & the Toolset. (Which i'm still trying to figure out how to even get started on, let alone operate, let alone the task of attempting to make good creations. Also, I downloaded the EclipseRay10 from the BioWare Site, & I can't figure out how to Install it, if it is even supposed to be installed. I don't wanna bog this Thread down with a Toolset Topic though, Tayo's the central focus.) She's important to me, because she's my Top Mage Character of my team, & she deserves better than 2nd rate Hair. If I can ever figure out &/or get help with getting Mod Hair or my own Hair Creation onto her, then I can Resurrect her & (hopefully) complete her at the same time. Then the unfinished Prototype that's Uploaded onto this Site won't be needed anymore.
Unfinished Prototype Tayo Surana:
Pretty, cute, young, & pleasant to look at, yet not supermodel.
My design plan for her is that I want her to be a spunky, spirited tomboy that has been double-whammied by both racial & class prejudice, & thus this has made her unsociable, pessimistic, Chantry-hateful, & Templar-hateful, yet at the same time, she has a 'Never say die!' attitude & is no quitter. She's not Temperamental, Hot-headed, Hot-blooded, or short-fused, but she's not immune to anger either. (In direct defiance of her Red-Headedness.)
(WARNING!!! Incoming optional info ranting & raving!)
She's lone-wolfish, but tries to handle teamwork when forced to. Never getting much happiness in her life, not getting to grow up in a normal happy family life, frequently being force-fed double-whammy strength discrimination & hate, never having any friends she could trust (if any at all, period, depending on what options the game gives me) or rely on, & not being able to get along too well with even her own fellow magic-users has made her understandably individualistic, selfish, stress-ridden, (especially from putting on her false persona of obedience to her superiors that can trash her at this time) & as earlier noted, pessimistic, especially toward humans. She likes animals, pretty lights, Lightning, & Wind. Her list of dislikes would be too long for this Post.
The two dislikes biggies are Templars, & not having free reign of her own Life.
(End of ranting & raving.)
Take note of how her Hairstyle singlehandedly breaks this desired Image of her. It makes her look formal & by-the-bookish. She needs a Tomboy short Hairstyle that shows her ears off proudly, & maybe optionally, looks semi-wild to display a Tomboy kinda person that isn't formal or sternly rule-abiding. It'll be a bonus if there's a Hairstyle that does this & could look informal/half-wild while still looking female & good-looking. This 'stand-in' Hairstyle is the closest match out of the Default Hairstyles, but it still comes up way short, & the other one that is short & ear-showing (that I remember the existence of) not only also looks too formal, but also outright looks Male.
I've tried to handle this myself for months, but I give up at success without Mod assistance. & I need backup at learning how to handle Mods. I've read about them for Months, but actually trying to use them myself is a whole nother story.
I hope I didn't yak too much in this Post. But surely this is the right place to find people that understand getting VERY attached to our Characters & wanting to give them loads of attention.
Not all characters are optimum as a supermodel. In that case, she's ready to go as is. Speaking of which, Tayo's the last rescuable character I still need to finish resurrecting, but before I do it, I need to finish optimizing her & getting her design ready to go in all respects. Her anatomy & colors are done, including her 'realistically imperfect' part of the strategy, but 0 of the default BioWare Hairstyles are adequate for her & my design plan for her. I think she needs a mod hair to be completed, & i'm a newbie to Mods, & the Toolset. (Which i'm still trying to figure out how to even get started on, let alone operate, let alone the task of attempting to make good creations. Also, I downloaded the EclipseRay10 from the BioWare Site, & I can't figure out how to Install it, if it is even supposed to be installed. I don't wanna bog this Thread down with a Toolset Topic though, Tayo's the central focus.) She's important to me, because she's my Top Mage Character of my team, & she deserves better than 2nd rate Hair. If I can ever figure out &/or get help with getting Mod Hair or my own Hair Creation onto her, then I can Resurrect her & (hopefully) complete her at the same time. Then the unfinished Prototype that's Uploaded onto this Site won't be needed anymore.
Unfinished Prototype Tayo Surana:
Pretty, cute, young, & pleasant to look at, yet not supermodel.
My design plan for her is that I want her to be a spunky, spirited tomboy that has been double-whammied by both racial & class prejudice, & thus this has made her unsociable, pessimistic, Chantry-hateful, & Templar-hateful, yet at the same time, she has a 'Never say die!' attitude & is no quitter. She's not Temperamental, Hot-headed, Hot-blooded, or short-fused, but she's not immune to anger either. (In direct defiance of her Red-Headedness.)
(WARNING!!! Incoming optional info ranting & raving!)
She's lone-wolfish, but tries to handle teamwork when forced to. Never getting much happiness in her life, not getting to grow up in a normal happy family life, frequently being force-fed double-whammy strength discrimination & hate, never having any friends she could trust (if any at all, period, depending on what options the game gives me) or rely on, & not being able to get along too well with even her own fellow magic-users has made her understandably individualistic, selfish, stress-ridden, (especially from putting on her false persona of obedience to her superiors that can trash her at this time) & as earlier noted, pessimistic, especially toward humans. She likes animals, pretty lights, Lightning, & Wind. Her list of dislikes would be too long for this Post.
The two dislikes biggies are Templars, & not having free reign of her own Life.(End of ranting & raving.)
Take note of how her Hairstyle singlehandedly breaks this desired Image of her. It makes her look formal & by-the-bookish. She needs a Tomboy short Hairstyle that shows her ears off proudly, & maybe optionally, looks semi-wild to display a Tomboy kinda person that isn't formal or sternly rule-abiding. It'll be a bonus if there's a Hairstyle that does this & could look informal/half-wild while still looking female & good-looking. This 'stand-in' Hairstyle is the closest match out of the Default Hairstyles, but it still comes up way short, & the other one that is short & ear-showing (that I remember the existence of) not only also looks too formal, but also outright looks Male.
I've tried to handle this myself for months, but I give up at success without Mod assistance. & I need backup at learning how to handle Mods. I've read about them for Months, but actually trying to use them myself is a whole nother story.
I hope I didn't yak too much in this Post. But surely this is the right place to find people that understand getting VERY attached to our Characters & wanting to give them loads of attention.
#1408
Posté 04 juin 2010 - 08:10
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most mods are fairly simple to install. usually its just download a file, unzip it, and either install with the daupdater.exe, or plop said files in the override folder. as long as you pay attention and take it slow, that kinda stuff, it'll be easy. perhaps check out the Tucked Hairs mod by tmp7704 first, and then get around to the others. if you have the toolset installed fine, I could PM you pretty simple directions to create a morph and transplant it onto a character, and a little bit of that kinda stuff.
EclipseRay10?
EclipseRay10?
#1409
Posté 04 juin 2010 - 08:12
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@Caladhiel: honest and strongminded opinion, respect that. Though don't really know what you talk about, you can't judge anything from a screenshot like that, you have to see the big picture.
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Posté 04 juin 2010 - 08:48
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"She needs a Tomboy short Hairstyle that shows her ears off proudly,
& maybe optionally, looks semi-wild to display a Tomboy kinda person
that isn't formal or sternly rule-abiding. It'll be a bonus if there's a
Hairstyle that does this & could look informal/half-wild while
still looking female & good-looking"
@ Tyrax Hmm from that description this is the hairstyle that comes to mind that may be able to suffice, just a passing thought though.
& maybe optionally, looks semi-wild to display a Tomboy kinda person
that isn't formal or sternly rule-abiding. It'll be a bonus if there's a
Hairstyle that does this & could look informal/half-wild while
still looking female & good-looking"
@ Tyrax Hmm from that description this is the hairstyle that comes to mind that may be able to suffice, just a passing thought though.
#1411
Posté 04 juin 2010 - 11:05
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yasuraka.hakkyou: Many thanks for the info! Though i'll see if I manage to pull it off, i'm still learning the Windows 7 Interface itself.
I'll welcome that Toolset PM once I figure out how to operate the Program, & this Module stuff & such i'm researching on the DA Builder Wiki. To my lack of surprise, it's making my head hurt, but i'm working on it.
I Downloaded the Toolset from the BioWare Social Site. It has the EclipseRay10 Download Link directly below the Toolset Download Link on the same Tab as it. Hmm... If some Mods are used by simply placing them into a certain Folder, I wonder if EclipseRay10 is the same...?
AvatarHunter: That Hairstyle looks good! That's not quite how I want Tayo, but it's on the right track!
I need to mosey on over to the Nexus, am I remembering right on that being the Mods's location? Dang my freaking memory. Oh, & do I have to have a Nexus Account to Download Mods, or just for Uploading to it as a Creator?
I'll welcome that Toolset PM once I figure out how to operate the Program, & this Module stuff & such i'm researching on the DA Builder Wiki. To my lack of surprise, it's making my head hurt, but i'm working on it.
I Downloaded the Toolset from the BioWare Social Site. It has the EclipseRay10 Download Link directly below the Toolset Download Link on the same Tab as it. Hmm... If some Mods are used by simply placing them into a certain Folder, I wonder if EclipseRay10 is the same...?
AvatarHunter: That Hairstyle looks good! That's not quite how I want Tayo, but it's on the right track!
I need to mosey on over to the Nexus, am I remembering right on that being the Mods's location? Dang my freaking memory. Oh, & do I have to have a Nexus Account to Download Mods, or just for Uploading to it as a Creator?
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Posté 04 juin 2010 - 11:25
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ok, just send me one when that happens. the wiki for the toolset is more about scripting and such things as adding companions, item sets, and such. yup, the nexus is the mod site. you can download small stuff w/o signing up (2 MB maybe? don't remember), but since its free, and for the larger files, may as well sign up. lets you leave comments too I'd imagine.
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Posté 05 juin 2010 - 01:06
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@ Tyrax:
Your wip female elf doesn't look "young" to me. With the right skin texture, she looks a lot like Wynne. Elderly person facial structure.
Right now... she looks like a "senior enchanter", mother of 3.
Bioware's elven female facial skin has that effect, so you need to really tailor the facial structure to counter it: Eyes larger, nose longer, jaw narrower. And not so much blank space floating around under the nose.
AvatarHunter's elf is a good example.
Your wip female elf doesn't look "young" to me. With the right skin texture, she looks a lot like Wynne. Elderly person facial structure.
Right now... she looks like a "senior enchanter", mother of 3.
Bioware's elven female facial skin has that effect, so you need to really tailor the facial structure to counter it: Eyes larger, nose longer, jaw narrower. And not so much blank space floating around under the nose.
AvatarHunter's elf is a good example.
#1414
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 01:26
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@Tyrax - Check the More Hairstyles mod on the nexus. There are a few tomboy style cuts in there that may work.
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Posté 05 juin 2010 - 04:35
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WolfheartHU wrote...
@Caladhiel: honest and strongminded opinion, respect that. Though don't really know what you talk about, you can't judge anything from a screenshot like that, you have to see the big picture.
I guess you are referring to the comment about Wyldsong's girl's scalp tattoo? I know, I already said my opinion was probably based on the poor lighting - that was exactly the problem, because in the dark it sort of looked blurry and more like sore skin than a tattoo.^^ Problem is, if I only have the screenshot to comment on, what else should I do? Heavens, I didn't mean to offend anyone...
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Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:43
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I got the urge to try to redesign some of the companions and npcs, I've done quite a few for my own personal use. Here is my version of Merrill and Leliana.
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Posté 05 juin 2010 - 03:22
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Caladhiel wrote...
WolfheartHU wrote...
@Caladhiel: honest and strongminded opinion, respect that. Though don't really know what you talk about, you can't judge anything from a screenshot like that, you have to see the big picture.
I guess you are referring to the comment about Wyldsong's girl's scalp tattoo? I know, I already said my opinion was probably based on the poor lighting - that was exactly the problem, because in the dark it sort of looked blurry and more like sore skin than a tattoo.^^ Problem is, if I only have the screenshot to comment on, what else should I do? Heavens, I didn't mean to offend anyone...
I personally wasn't offended, so no worries on my partB)
I can respect the opinion, and I'll try and drop some screenies of it in game later.
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Posté 05 juin 2010 - 03:41
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Mlai00: Tayo's on V3.0. I thought I had her done... That's not what I was going for at all... It's a good thing I hadn't gotten her Hair done after all, I need to spiff her up as I resurrect her! 
AvatarHunter: More superb work! No tweak needs here.
I'm especially eyeballing your Elf, since I now know that Tayo needs more shine & polish. I admit, she was my 3rd Character I built, & is months old.
I need some backup here:
http://thenexusforum...howtopic=209300
Something's wrong with my new Registration there. It's working on the Nexus Forums, but not on the File Download area, which I need to get me some Hair. (I also found Pineappletree's stuff & am eyeballing those too! I've seen the results from that Mod here on this Site & I like it!)
AvatarHunter: More superb work! No tweak needs here.
I'm especially eyeballing your Elf, since I now know that Tayo needs more shine & polish. I admit, she was my 3rd Character I built, & is months old.
I need some backup here:
http://thenexusforum...howtopic=209300
Something's wrong with my new Registration there. It's working on the Nexus Forums, but not on the File Download area, which I need to get me some Hair. (I also found Pineappletree's stuff & am eyeballing those too! I've seen the results from that Mod here on this Site & I like it!
)
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Posté 05 juin 2010 - 03:46
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Hey everyone, this is my first ever post. I came across this thread and figure I'd post my own character, Moira Cousland:
I was wondering if there was any way I could improve on her. I used Leliana preset face (dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php) and tweaked it from there!
I was wondering if there was any way I could improve on her. I used Leliana preset face (dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php) and tweaked it from there!
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Posté 05 juin 2010 - 03:51
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sailorsaturnz: She's a cutie! But she can go farther yet! Perhaps narrow the Jaw a bit, widen the Chin a little, & widen the Nose Bridge a little. Hope to see more of her!
#1421
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 04:28
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Avatar: Interesting Merrill, I don't think I've seen that tattoo floating around though. I like mine more, 
, but that one's nice.
, but that one's nice.
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Posté 05 juin 2010 - 04:47
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@ Tyrax & Yasu thanks and I like my Merrill more! lol glad to hear you say that actually, gotta take pride in your own creations if nothing else . Have you tried redesigning any other npcs or companions? I really liked your Valenna so I was curious.
. Have you tried redesigning any other npcs or companions? I really liked your Valenna so I was curious.
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Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:05
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@Sailor that's cute cousland indeed, I would say she looks innocent as well but that scar suggests that she's been in her fair share of battles. Tyrax pretty much laid it all out improvement wise, looking forward to see what other characters you'll come up with
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Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:13
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I have a rough 5 min Zevran start, but I haven't gotten that far again, so that's "postponed." other than that, if I come across someone that, first, I'm not using Redesigned for, and second, that I find ugly, then I'll redo them. I've found other morphs for the rest of the companions by others, so nope.
#1425
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:37
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@Avatar - I really dig that Leli. You gonna put that up on the nexus?
And the tat on Mer is from Wolpack's Face tats, right?
@Tyrax - Did you get the downloads to work? Bidelle's is a good one, and there are a TON of good mods I could recommend. A lot of them use chargenmorph files, so make sure you know how to work with those. If you need any help, let me know.
And the tat on Mer is from Wolpack's Face tats, right?
@Tyrax - Did you get the downloads to work? Bidelle's is a good one, and there are a TON of good mods I could recommend. A lot of them use chargenmorph files, so make sure you know how to work with those. If you need any help, let me know.
