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#1726
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@Oblivionator435 - I have to jump on the bandwagon here. The base design is fine, it's just the eyes are almost comically huge. Bring them down a few notches, and I think you'll be right where you want to be.

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Modifié par Wyldsong, 12 juin 2010 - 07:19 .


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@adneate do you have any further suggestions? I value your opinion actually :P well I value everyones but your one of the few who gave me actual feedback on improving my character.

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drewj1988 wrote...

@adneate do you have any further suggestions? I value your opinion actually :P well I value everyones but your one of the few who gave me actual feedback on improving my character.


Well I think Sangril V3 Face 2 is the stronger design for my tastes, maybe experiment with bringing her chin up a tiny bit just to smooth out the jaw and chin line It's almost perfect but I have a feeling just a little more should really blend the chin and jaw together. Also maybe use the nostril wide/narrow slider to make her nostrils just a little bit wider (-0.10 to -0.15) might help balance out her nose. Also her cheekbones could come up a bit, they seem a bit low and it should help if they were a bit closer to her eyes. The last thing are the eyebrows right now she has a very serious look, if that's the kind of character she is then you don't really need to change anything but using the eye brow down/up slider can change her 'demeanor' a higher value of eye brow up combined with a low value of the brow down/up slider can make character look cunning and crafty while low values can make them look stren and serious. It really depends on who you want Sangril to be, and experimentation is really the key to seeing how those two sliders play off each other.

As for your male character I'm not really all that well versed in them myself, so I can't really give you any advice on sliders since I don't know how they interact but I think Petehog gave some great advice in some earlier posts on making male character appear more powerful.

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@ Oblivionator435: As others have stated, Katrielle's eyes are the only real "problem" area on your elf. I think the make-up actually exacerbates this problem. So, I'd suggest playing with both the eye size and the eyeshadow setting. :)



Okay, hypocrisy alert! I know, I'm all, "Alistair is fine the way he is, blah, blah, blah," but I went ahead and tweaked bizarro Alistair to make him even more Alistair-y. I actually still like the original Alistair, but I have to admit, it was fun to attempt an alternate version. Be gentle :P

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Modifié par Schratty, 12 juin 2010 - 08:38 .


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@Klarabella You made her in the Character creator? If I understood that correctly then I'm amazed I didn't think the character creator could make an elf that even remotely looked good.

Oh, of course, she's not based on the vanilla presets. I have no idea which mod the preset was part of. Sadly I didn't make her in the toolset, so I have no mrh file.

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@Schratty Vanilla Alistair looks better rawr! :P Jokes aside Bizarro Alistair looks well like Bizarro Alistair, prehaps the Alistair fans might like it if you placed Bizzaro looking Alistair's face on Bizzaro acting Alistair from the Darkspawn chronicles. Though if you didn't already have it then I wouldn't suggest getting it just to take a joke to it's logical conclusion cause it's not good.

@Klarabella Ah okay that makes more sense now since Bioware's preset elves are fugly beyond repair, you really should make your designs in the toolset if you can it's much more powerful and you can actually have true ownership over the designs.

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This thread is progressing way too fast for me, so I'll just comment on the previous page:



@Adneate: Riona looks like a determined warrior with a sort of fierce beauty! I like how you didn't use too much make-up, it wouldn't suit her type of character. Just one minor detail: maybe darken the eyebrows a shade or two..?



@Petehog: Don't know why you're not content with your dwarf, he looks great! Apart from the fact that the beard seems to clash with the sideburns, but that's hardly your fault.



@Schratty: I know you're going for a very 'anorexic' design, but maybe it would be possible to even out the cheeks a little? The lump between the cheekbone and the chin is a little extreme...

I don't mind the thicker eyebrows on your modified Alistair, btw. It's the eye-shape that bothers me here... ;)



@klarabella: I think your elf is very pretty, and I like her slanted, enhanced eyes. Only the ears are sticking out a little too much for my taste ;)



@drew: I'd narrow Theron's jaw a little, seeing as it's even wider than his forehead. ;) As for Sangaril, I'd vote for v3 face 2 - it looks far more elegant than v4.



@VC: Okay, I'm going to have nightmares of those faces tonight^^



@Oblivionator: Those eyes on your elf are an absolute no-go! ;) Sorry to say, but it makes her look as if her eyes are about to pop out of her skull^^ The make-up enhances this even further, so maybe you'd like to tune down on both... As for Damlen, he looks like a troubled man with many sorrows... how about giving us a frontal pic? :)



Okay, to tune up a little on the elf love I give you Elias, CE rogue. He was actually one of my first toolset creations and I thought I might as well share him, seeing as I'm currently sorting out all my different characters to clean up the mess in my DA folders.^^ He's a bit of a swashbuckler and definitely more rakish than most of his Alienage associates:



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This will probably be my last contribution for some time, btw. I broke my foot and am scheduled for surgery on Monday. I'll probably be home soon, but I don't think my creative input will be all that great in the days to come...^^


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Caladhiel wrote...

This will probably be my last contribution for some time, btw. I broke my foot and am scheduled for surgery on Monday. I'll probably be home soon, but I don't think my creative input will be all that great in the days to come...^^


:C get well soon!

#1734
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@Cala - Ouch. Definitely take it easy and get better!

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does my avatar look like how a cousland would look?

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dont worry i know he does.

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Yay, time to comment!

The pics for the dwarven commoner origin took much longer to make than I thought they would do D: At least it's released and such now... WIN! Now on to the NOBLES!

And since we all wanted dwarf-love in this thread, here's a sample pic from the mod:

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Also changed both Xiang and Skadi a bit.

Xiang's changes are based on mochen's and my bf's feedback (and everyone else too in some way, thankies!), and a couple of things I wanted to "fix" myself. I'm totally in love with her now!
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The upper right pic is... eep <3 Anyone agree?

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Then we have Skadi, my long-lived dwarf. I think she's the most tweaked and longest survivor of my character bunch. This is about version 10 or something.

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Does the scar fit her? :3

Puh. Now let's see what I can comment on...

@neppakyo
Your little elven woman there is nice, but I would give her a little more chin and jaw by dragging the mouth upwards :3

@adneate
That char looks like something straight out of Redesigned... Take it how you want to.
About the helm/eye thing... I have not seen that before today so it sure is some sort of bug. and a SCARY one!

@Petehog
See what difference the removal of the tat made. Now he looks good.

@Schratty
You have an interesting design going there, loving the photoshop job ;D
About Xiang, yep, my bf said the same thing. The blush didn't look nearly as good in-game as it did in the toolset. So that's changed now :3
About Alistair... apart from the eyes I prefer yours ;)

@klarabella
Your "imperfect" char looks good to me. I see nothing wrong with her nose mouth or chin. Maybe the ears are a tad bit too wide, but that's no biggie.

@drewj1988
Theron's cheeks/jaw looks odd to me, but you already got feedbvack on that earlier. Other than that and the lorebreaking thing, he's a good design. Maybe make the irises smaller (so that they take up less of the eye)

Sangaril is awesome, v3 face 2 is really good. I'm not too fond of the makeup of v4, so I'm voting v3 all the way :3

@Caladhiel
Oh noes, I'm sorry for the nightmares
and wtf broken foot? :( Get well soon <3
Your elf looks alot like Presence masterpiece due to the lower part of the face, and yes that's a good thing :P

Modifié par VirusCat, 13 juin 2010 - 12:21 .


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Here's my latest Cousland, i like a lot how he looks.Man, I've been out for a long time see if I can get back and comment a little


Modifié par Creid-X, 13 juin 2010 - 12:40 .


#1739
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He does look pretty nice :3 However, I would change his complexion or give him some lipstick to make his lips look more normal. I like how you made the hair and the brows work, and he has solid features :3

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Yep, I don't like the lips so much either, it's the worst part of the third CC skin complexion :(

Glad you liked it, I'm gonna keep working and see if I can get it right

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@VirusCat First I really don't know if the scar fits, I mean the Warden is a very young character so I don't really know if they'd have the life experience to get such a large sword scar across their face. I'm sorta iffy on it I can't really commit to either saying it looks good or bad on her.



Also as far as that helm 'bug' is concerned I went through a few screens of a recent play through and found another instance of it.



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Not only are there two disembodied eyes in a helm, but the left one is looking up and the right one straight ahead. It seems to manifest itself when a helmed character is lit from the front and it's strange and funny at the same time.

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kk. Tweaked her more, she's now named Reiael Black hair, reddish highlights.



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#1743
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Creid-X wrote...

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Here's my latest Cousland, i like a lot how he looks.Man, I've been out for a long time see if I can get back and comment a little

He reminds me of Tidus from FFX.
WIth darker hair and maybe a bit wider jaw.

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Creid-X wrote...

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Here's my latest Cousland, i like a lot how he looks.Man, I've been out for a long time see if I can get back and comment a little


That's fantastic. I don't remember the actor's name, but from a few angles this looks like Boone from LOST.

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VirusCat I totally am in love with Xiang very well done.

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nep whats your character wearing?

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Looks messed, but its a robe, royal witch heh. I ought to clean up my override.

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@ Caladhiel: First, I hope your surgery goes well and you have a quick recovery :) Second, I'll tinker with Mr. Anorexia's face. Third, wow, that was one of your first toolset designs? Very impressive! He definitely looks like he's up to no good. I also like his hair/eye color combination.


@ VirusCat: Looks like you've been busy O.O Your dwarves look like they're coming along nicely - very dynamic-looking.

As for Xiang, I guess great minds think alike :P Definitely looks much improved. Funny how the toolset is often misleading :/

Skadi looks okay with the scar, but I think I prefer her without it. I think it almost detracts from the over all design, instead of complimenting it. Merely my opinion, though ;)

P.S. Aw! Thanks! My version of Alistair is growing on me :)


@ Creid-X: I generally do not like that hairstyle, but your guy pulls it off wonderfully. I agree with VirusCat that the lips are abnormally red. I know Petehog has an alternate version of the "kid" texture that eliminates the wonky lip color. You can find it in Redesigned 7.1.


Okay, first, as per Caladhiel and VirusCat's suggestions, I've tinkered with Alistair's eyes.

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Next, we have a minor update on my beloved HN Charlotte. I changed her eye color (made them darker to hopefully enhance the "doe eye" look) and gave her a longer hairstyle with bangs to help soften her face some more.

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Modifié par Schratty, 13 juin 2010 - 02:27 .


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@Schratty

Your recent rendition of Charlotte is well done. Great proportions. And she is beautiful.

VirusCat wrote...

@adneate
That char looks like something straight out of Redesigned... Take it how you want to.
About the helm/eye thing... I have not seen that before today so it sure is some sort of bug. and a SCARY one!


As for Adneate's character, I would say she most resembles my rendition of Alfstanna from Dragon Age Redesigned. Similar hairstyle, hair color, skin color, etc. Here are a couple pictures of Alfstanna for reference.

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@Petehog
See what difference the removal of the tat made. Now he looks good.


Yes, thanks for the heads-up on the tattoo.

Modifié par Petehog, 13 juin 2010 - 03:25 .


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Schratty wrote...

I agree with VirusCat that the lips are abnormally red. I know Petehog has an alternate version of the "kid" texture that eliminates the wonky lip color. You can find it in Redesigned 7.1.

It can be also done (simpler) by applying one of the "white" lipsticks to the character. The bonus is getting more control over the tone as exact amount can be adjusted with the slider.

Okay, first, as per Caladhiel and VirusCat's suggestions, I've tinkered with Alistair's eyes.

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I'm not sure and it's probably just me, but the character gives me impression of someone who is either drunk or drugged. It may be caused by the iris being relatively smaller to the whole eye (since the eye seems to be made less narrow) and the pupil of the eye being also either smaller or the size is just more noticeable with the lighter eye colour.

Modifié par tmp7704, 13 juin 2010 - 02:49 .