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[cJohnOne]

Is Powerful Swings any good?  Do you put that on instead of Indomitable?  Is that the trade-off?  Or do you put both on and not use abilities like the Sundars? 

[JosieJ]

I personally never used it much. It gives +5 to damage, and -10 each to attack and defense. In the beginning of the game, I felt my attack rating already sucked enough without adding even more of a penalty to it. By the time I leveled up enough to get Two-Handed Strength, which halves the penalty and adds +25% armor penetration, the +5 to damage wasn't really looking all that thrilling. The armor penetration could be useful against heavily armored opponents, but I had a mage companion with the Telekinetic Weapons spell, so I didn't really need it for that, either.



I tended to cycle through my active attacks (the Sunders, Mighty Blow, Critical Strike, etc.) because they're a lot faster than auto-attacking, plus the Sunders are each actually two strikes. Indomitable was a must-have, as well.

[MadDjinn]

grab some +stamina equipment and that'll cover the cost of them so that you can still use the other talents.

[mosspit]

What JosieJ state is true. Powerful swings without 2H str does not make sense esp during early to mid game. It actually lowers dps. Get it as a pre-requisite.

With 2H str, you probably can combine it with precise-strking to maxmise its dmg potential during talent spam. If you are the dpser, you can probably justify choosing these instead of indom for a +4dmg increase. And if you get berserk, prioritize that instead of powerful swings.

Modifié par mosspit, 17 avril 2010 - 07:48 .

[beancounter501]

Powerful swings is great - mid to late game. Early game it is just not worth it do to the massive penality.

[cJohnOne]

So I have one 'It's Great' and two 'Don't need it'.



Would Powerful Swings work on the heavily armoured Loghain?







What about other sustains like Frost Weapons and Flaming Weapons?

[MadDjinn]

Frost and flame for straight damage, telekinetic for armour penetration.



have 2 mages and damage flies for the warriors.

[Nooneyouknow13]

As far as I'm aware, the +25% armor penetration from Two-handed Strength is entirely passive. You get it whether Powerful Swings is on or not. If you have the stamina to use it, do so, otherwise, don't. Same rules apply to all sustained skills really. You want sweep, and it's in the way, so you can't really opt out of it.



That said, if you have Stunning blows or Destroyer, prioritize Precise Striking over anything but Indomitable. Since they both only trigger on crits, which the tooltips forget to tell you. Since I learned that, I just avoid Destroyer entirely.



Anyone know if Shattering Blows works properly yet?

[Hundbert]

I didn't bother with powerful swings when i finished the oc and awakening. Indomitable and berserk were all i used and my damage was fine.

Powerful swing's just +5 damage that doesn't scale so it's pretty much only good in the beginning against easy to hit enemies like mages.
+5 damage when your total damage is 15-20 is a big boost. But later in the game when you're doing over 60 damage another 5 is just not worth the stamina upkeep + fatigue. I'd only use this skill early when it actually matters.

Modifié par Hundbert, 19 avril 2010 - 03:07 .

[mosspit]

^ +5 might seem low. But how will you compare with say, +8dmg from berserk? Generally, if you have stamina pool is large enough, no reason not to stack dmg sustains.

Modifié par mosspit, 19 avril 2010 - 03:11 .

[Hundbert]

Yes that's true but it was berserk or powerful swings.I felt it drained too much stamina to keep all 3 active.

[Unrefined-Nemesis]

Depends on your build itself and specialization.



Powerful Swings is a really useful skill early to late game when combined with Berserk its a really hurts when it matters.



If your build is built around Strength and Willpower the upkeep wouldn't really matter I found 20 willpower was enough to handle Indomitable, Powerful Swings and Berserk although it did take away my final blow damage.

[cJohnOne]

So if I don't want both Powerful Swings and Berserker I should choose Berserker because I get amour penetration anyway. Is that right?



How many steps in Berserker should I get?

[mosspit]

afaik the +8 from berserk is available from the get-go. As for the 2nd and 3rd, one just reduce stam degen by 1 and increase hp regen by 1.5... Attractive benefit but nothing directly benficial to dps.

[cJohnOne]

Berserker flips off after every battle and I forget to turn it on again. In my case I'm better off with Powerful Swings or Indomitable.

[Hundbert]

It's a roleplaying game after all. Don't worry too much about berserk beeing active all the time.

It's probably intended that you sometimes rage to get more damage

[surrealitycheck]

As a 2-hander warrior you just stack every single passive you can with damage runes on your weapons and icy + fiery + haste from the mages and autoattack your way to victory. Special attacks don't get bonus elemental damage so end up losing out to autoattack.

[mosspit]

^ That is only one of the ways to play them.

[Valaz]

Personally Im doing a str/dex/con build and equips to counter the low will.



Dont use PS, not even early on +5 isnt all that great really just not worth the will usage I only got it to get crit strike.

[Last Darkness]

NEVER use this sustainable, While in this mode, the character puts extra muscle behind each swing, gaining +5 damage but suffering -10 attack and -10 defense. Two-Handed Strength reduces the penalties to -5 attack and -5 defense.