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[errant_knight]

LadyDamodred wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

LOL wouldn't "broken a tiny bit" kinda qualify as insane? Thats like being a "little bit pregnant".

No, not at all.  Insane has a very specific definition.  People have varying degrees of mental health and problems and nearly all of them are not insane.  You might think their behavior is irrational and crazy, but that does not mean they are insane.  In fact, the character that I wrote is very sane b/c she clearly knows what she is doing and the impact of her decisions.  Her issue lies in emotional stability.

As I say, we're running into terminology issues. Some people are using insane as a blanket term to cover a wide range of mental abnormality, while other see it as only covering the most extreme cases.

[KnightofPhoenix]

errant_knight wrote...

KnightofPhoenix, please stop. Please, please. I've finally got this back on track....

Sorry. Just trying to show you that Alistair leaving is military desertion and you can use that to expand upon your story. The woman who is in love with him might not tolerate desertion either. Maybe she was taught to be that way as a Cousland.

[darkrose]

errant_knight wrote...

darkrose, the topic is how a female charcter in a relationship with Alistair could bring herself to execute him, the kind of person she might be, and how she could justify it/be affected emotionally. Do you have any thoughts on that?

Um...sorry. I was just responding to some of the points that were raised earlier. I'll shut up now.

[errant_knight]

darkrose wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

darkrose, the topic is how a female charcter in a relationship with Alistair could bring herself to execute him, the kind of person she might be, and how she could justify it/be affected emotionally. Do you have any thoughts on that?

Um...sorry. I was just responding to some of the points that were raised earlier. I'll shut up now.

I know, it's not your fault. I wasn't paying enough attention to the thread last night and it got wildly off topic. While I was trying to bring things back on topic, any input you have on that would be very welcome.

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Sorry. Just trying to show you that Alistair leaving is military desertion and you can use that to expand upon your story. The woman who is in love with him might not tolerate desertion either. Maybe she was taught to be that way as a Cousland.

Oh, okay! See, when you say it like that, it's both interesting and on topic! Thing is, she's supposedly in love. I have trouble believing that most people, no matter how gung-ho they're upbringing, would be able to go the 'Okay, kill him' route.

Modifié par errant_knight, 21 avril 2010 - 02:47 .

[LadyDamodred]

errant_knight wrote...

darkrose wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

darkrose, the topic is how a female charcter in a relationship with Alistair could bring herself to execute him, the kind of person she might be, and how she could justify it/be affected emotionally. Do you have any thoughts on that?

Um...sorry. I was just responding to some of the points that were raised earlier. I'll shut up now.

I know, it's not your fault. I wasn't paying enough attention to the thread last night and it got wildly off topic. While I was trying to bring things back on topic, any input you have on that would be very welcome.

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Sorry. Just trying to show you that Alistair leaving is military desertion and you can use that to expand upon your story. The woman who is in love with him might not tolerate desertion either. Maybe she was taught to be that way as a Cousland.

Oh, okay! See, when you say it like that, it's both interesting and on topic! Thing is, she's supposedly in love. I have trouble believing that most people, no matter how gung-ho they're upbringing, would be able to go the 'Okay, kill him' route.

Just remember, a little bit of crazy makes characters so much more interesting. 

[Sarah1281]

errant_knight wrote...
Oh, okay! See, when you say it like that, it's both interesting and on topic! Thing is, she's supposedly in love. I have trouble believing that most people, no matter how gung-ho they're upbringing, would be able to go the 'Okay, kill him' route.

Does she have to be in love? The topic just says in a romance which can be anywhere from telling Alistair he's handsome to getting a love confession.

[KnightofPhoenix]

errant_knight wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Sorry. Just trying to show you that Alistair leaving is military desertion and you can use that to expand upon your story. The woman who is in love with him might not tolerate desertion either. Maybe she was taught to be that way as a Cousland.

Oh, okay! See, when you say it like that, it's both interesting and on topic! Thing is, she's supposedly in love. I have trouble believing that most people, no matter how gung-ho they're upbringing, would be able to go the 'Okay, kill him' route.

Well it doesn't have to be easy like that. She could (and should if she is truly in love) struggle with this a lot. But her upbringing taught her how the military is handled. She was bred to lead and to punish if need be (leadership cannot exist without the willingness to enforce it).

So she could, in that spur of the moment, start deluding herself that she hates Alistair or is disgusted by his seeming treason and desertion, for she has been bred to resent those people. She would be lying to herself but that's interesting.

Also, she might link that with personal treason. She might believe (and I wouldn't blame her at all) that Alistair is now betraying her and abandoning her when she needs him most (However Alistair wishes to see her sparing Loghain as, she never intented to abandon him at the final battle). So coupled with desertion, she might see Alistair as betraying their love, for he is willign to leave her while she never wanted to leave him.

And I apologise again for derailing.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 21 avril 2010 - 03:02 .

[errant_knight]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Sorry. Just trying to show you that Alistair leaving is military desertion and you can use that to expand upon your story. The woman who is in love with him might not tolerate desertion either. Maybe she was taught to be that way as a Cousland.

Oh, okay! See, when you say it like that, it's both interesting and on topic! Thing is, she's supposedly in love. I have trouble believing that most people, no matter how gung-ho they're upbringing, would be able to go the 'Okay, kill him' route.

Well it doesn't have to be easy like that. She could (and should if she is truly in love) struggle with this a lot. But her upbringing taught her how the military is handled. She was bred to lead and to punish if need be (leadership cannot exist without the willingness to enforce it).

So she could, in that spur of the moment, start deluding herself that she hates Alistair or is disgusted by his seeming treason and desertion, for she has been bred to resent those people. She would be lying to herself but that's interesting.

Also, she might link that with personal treason. She might believe (and I wouldn't blame her at all) that Alistair is now betraying her and abandoning her when she needs him most (However Alistair wishes to see her sparing Loghain as, she never intented to abandon him at the final battle). So coupled with desertion, she might see Alistair as betraying their love, for he is willign to leave her while she never wanted to leave him.

And I apologise again for derailing.

You've totally made up for it by bringing these interesting ideas to the table!

Sarah1281 wrote...

errant_knight wrote...
Oh, okay! See, when you say it like that, it's both interesting and on topic! Thing is, she's supposedly in love. I have trouble believing that most people, no matter how gung-ho they're upbringing, would be able to go the 'Okay, kill him' route.

Does she have to be in love? The topic just says in a romance which can be anywhere from telling Alistair he's handsome to getting a love confession.

Well, the scenario is that when she sends Alistair off to his death at landsmeet, he's in love with her and believes that she's in love with him--up until that moment, anyway. I haven't decided what her feelings/motivations are yet. I can get away with that for a bit since she won't appear until quite late in the story. At this point, it only matters what Alistair and some of the companions think. Anyhoo. I knew I needed to find some motivation for her that didn't make her look like the villain in a melodrama, so...this thread. Still, she's the villain.

Modifié par errant_knight, 21 avril 2010 - 03:30 .