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[Frekken]

Archereon wrote...

Frekken wrote...

I'm gonna go with Liara as my guess (assuming we've even met the next villain). Given her darker arc she looks like she might be one of those fall from grace with final redemption types. Shes the character we have the closest connection with that spans the series and is definitely alive.

If your going for shock value of the faces of obsessive fans, go for Tali.

Tali may or may not be alive, so it would be unlikely for a major plot point to be based on her.

[Akrylik]

TIM doesn't work with the "save collector base" ending, inless both endings had some sort of ass pull at the beginning of ME3 that pisses TIM off so bad he severs alliance with you (unfortunately something like this might happen, both endings need to be equally indifferent in outcome due to the sequel). If not then I vote Shadow Broker as the side antagonist, because the Reapers indoctrinating random people just to fill the role of enemies is just uncreative on Bioware's part.

[przemichal]

My bet on Paul Grayson. He is in the second ME book and he will be in the third one, augmented with Reapers' tech by TIM. Surely he will become insanely powerful; and he may have some "personal" motives behind him (like this stereotypical "I see that the world is wrong so I will stop Shepard and let them Reapers' reap all organic life" or so...).

[Mondo_]

The reapers should indoctrinate all the other Spectres

or Jacob!

Modifié par Mondo_, 18 avril 2010 - 05:48 .

[ResidentNoob]

GodWood wrote...

Collider wrote...

GodWood wrote...
I personally think the Council will declare Shepard rogue in ME3 and we'll have to deal with another spectre hunting Shepard down and hopefully throughout the course of the game we'll have multiple encounters with said spectre.

Not a bad idea. Technically, though, Shepard is no longer a Spectre if you made certain decisions so declaring him rogue isn't exactly fitting with all playthroughs.

It wouldn't be too hard really.
If you were a spectre you're declared rogue and are to be hunted down and be brought to justice.
If you were not a spectre you are declared a threat to galactic peace and are to be hunted down and brought to justice. 

This is a very good idea. I approve.

In fact, the Council may not know where Shepard is, and may deploy multiple Spectres to bring in 'one of the greatest threats to galactic peace'.B)The Council could spread word to all planets in Citadel space, thus making our job to recruit all races to fight the Reapers that much more difficult. We could hear about famous exploits of these Spectres.

We could have chance encounters during random story missions, and either take them down, let them live, or accidentally let them get away during the fights.

[cronshaw8]

The "Shepard declared rogue" is probably a no go. It would require BioWare to make two completely different games with two completely different antagonists. One for the Renegade players who flipped off the council and gave the collector base to the Illusive Man. And one for the Paragons who got reinstated as a specter, blew up the base, and flipped off the Illusive Man.

[TJSolo]

I agree with the OP. ME3 and the Reapers will entail a massive battle.Shepard will not be able to directly confront and interact with the Reapers directly.

There should be some sort of avatar(s) for the Reapers so Shepard, by extension the player, can confront and interact with. Not just for a final showdown but at least for an actual antagonist in the game.

[Zulu_DFA]

New Saren? You mean a rogue spectre with an army of geth (and possibly some other rogue races) at his command? There is one already. It's you!!!

[Andrew_Waltfeld]

cronshaw8 wrote...

The "Shepard declared rogue" is probably a no go. It would require BioWare to make two completely different games with two completely different antagonists. One for the Renegade players who flipped off the council and gave the collector base to the Illusive Man. And one for the Paragons who got reinstated as a specter, blew up the base, and flipped off the Illusive Man.

Yes I may have stayed on the good side of the council to avoid burning bridges, but when I am gonna use the data to help cure the genophage, have an army of geth/quarians and Rachni at my  back, If the councils don't believe reapers, what makes you think they are going to believe you about using this army against an enemy they consider fictional? they think your just gotten insane.

[Xaijin]

ME3 has a new Saren, he was ME2. Take a guess.

[sonsonthebia07]

As long as it isn't a gigantic robo-human again I don't mind too much. I'm assuming Harbinger is going to be the final boss though so I'm not getting my hopes up.



And as others are saying, Shepard is damn close to being considered rogue as it is.

[AlbertoAquilani]

Could it be, that our Shepard, if followed a more renegade path can become what Saren became in ME 1?

[Nightwriter]

I agree with the OP.

The Reapers themselves are kind of boring as villains. They're just EVIL EVIL WE ARE EVIL MUST DESTROY PUNY HUMANS.

Saren was more interesting. We need a new Saren.

[Archereon]

Nightwriter: Sovereign was an interesting villain. In part, this was because of how good the revelation of his true nature (as the puppet master instead of the instrument of the puppet master).



It will be hard to beat Saren for main antagonist though.

[Nightwriter]

Archereon wrote...

Nightwriter: Sovereign was an interesting villain. In part, this was because of how good the revelation of his true nature (as the puppet master instead of the instrument of the puppet master).

It will be hard to beat Saren for main antagonist though.

I actually agree about Sovereign! He was interesting, just because of the way he was introduced and the total mystery he was.

Unfortunately Sovereign is dead.

[Collider]

Sovereign was as interesting as watching grass grow. In fact the only thing I got from the conversation from him on Virmire was "EVIL EVIL WE ARE EVIL MUST DESTROY PUNY HUMANS." There was nothing profound in what he said, basically it amounted to "lol omg u guys r dumb n we r smart"

[slaythatdragon]

Collider wrote...

Sovereign was as interesting as watching grass grow. In fact the only thing I got from the conversation from him on Virmire was "EVIL EVIL WE ARE EVIL MUST DESTROY PUNY HUMANS." There was nothing profound in what he said, basically it amounted to "lol omg u guys r dumb n we r smart"

agreed 

[kraidy1117]

Archereon wrote...

Nightwriter: Sovereign was an interesting villain. In part, this was because of how good the revelation of his true nature (as the puppet master instead of the instrument of the puppet master).

It will be hard to beat Saren for main antagonist though.

And thats why Bioware gave us TIM. While Bioware tries to advertise him as an Allie, we all know he was the true villian of ME2.

[Archereon]

Kraidy: That was obvious from the beginning. He's voiced by Martin Sheen after all.

[kraidy1117]

Archereon wrote...

Kraidy: That was obvious from the beginning. He's voiced by Martin Sheen after all.

Just saying, TIM will play a huge role in ME3. He is just too much of an importent character to just toss away and not to mention he will be the main villien again the next ME book. Martin Sheen did such a fantastic job.

[Nightwriter]

Collider wrote...

Sovereign was as interesting as watching grass grow. In fact the only thing I got from the conversation from him on Virmire was "EVIL EVIL WE ARE EVIL MUST DESTROY PUNY HUMANS." There was nothing profound in what he said, basically it amounted to "lol omg u guys r dumb n we r smart"

Actually, I found that conversation quite interesting. I felt like I was interacting with an old consciousness, something mysterious and alien and surprising.  Also the revelation that the ship was the Reaper was a cool moment for me.

[kreite]

 I think the general concept is brilliant TIM as a baddie would not really work in my op I mean once you see him in me2 you can't se him any other way a cyborg reaper person to fight shep one on one would be almost comical to the fans as for hating you even if I wanted too I could not ur just too cool 

Modifié par kreite, 18 avril 2010 - 07:48 .

[Collider]

@Nightwriter, the whole exchange would have been more fitting for an ancient consciousness if it did not amount to chest beating. There were no nuggets of wisdom that you would think would arise from being so ancient and long lived, there was only trying to look superior. At most, for me, it made the reapers look like douches.

[Halmiriliath]

Nightwriter wrote...

I agree with the OP.

The Reapers themselves are kind of boring as villains. They're just EVIL EVIL WE ARE EVIL MUST DESTROY PUNY HUMANS.

Saren was more interesting. We need a new Saren.

To reiterate what I said earlier in this thread, isn't this finally our chance to see what the Reapers are about, beyond them telling us that they are the vanguard of our destruction, or that they are infinitely our greater? Do they even recognise or bother to acknowledge our concepts of morality, or are we just the metaphorical wheat waiting for the harvest? To quote Jacob - a heavy risk indeed *cue facepalm* - 'Enough with the toys'. It's time to get us some Reaper action, and perhaps providing us with a personal enemy would risk side-lining the real enemy in this story. Of course, given that the games centre around squad-based combat, I don't know how you'd implement this, but I just wanted to add a different perspective to the debate.

Modifié par Halmiriliath, 18 avril 2010 - 08:04 .

[kraidy1117]

Collider wrote...

@Nightwriter, the whole exchange would have been more fitting for an ancient consciousness if it did not amount to chest beating. There were no nuggets of wisdom that you would think would arise from being so ancient and long lived, there was only trying to look superior. At most, for me, it made the reapers look like douches.

Which is why I liked Harbinger more, I hate villiens who think they are big shots and then die so quick <_< least with Harbinger he was very subtle, did not take risk and had epic one liners.