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[JeanLuc761]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Most of us are extremely friendly and level-headed people, but there are a few...shall we say others that take things WAY too seriously.  

Sort of like furries then?

Theres some people who want Tali to have a baby

Which freaks me (and many other Talimancers) out 

[Nivenus]

SkullandBonesmember wrote...

I wanted her as a LI in the first. And were you a member of the original boards? If not, check out the archive. Yes, she was just as popular.

I was. And no, she wasn't. She was very popular, but she didn't have threads that updated every half minute. And I think that Liara's fanbase equally exceled hers at the time. I don't think that's the case anymore.

[bandfred]

The accent, the quirks, the hips, the mystery, the exoticness (yet Liara never did it for me), just the overall cuteness of the character.

[Nightwriter]

I'm tired of not being able to keep up with these god damn fast moving Tali threads. How's a girl supposed to get a word in edgewise around here.

I'm just giong to start posting random freaking comments.

Banana.

[Xaijin]

She's full of candy.

[Nightwriter]

Avocado.

[JeanLuc761]

Nightwriter wrote...

Avocado.

Guacamole.

What? It's the next logical step! 

[Spatchmo]

Xaijin wrote...

She's full of candy.

In Mass Effect 3 it is discovered that Quarians are nothing more than sentient pinatas. When they die, all the candy comes spilling out, and all the turians essentially become cannibals that eat the candy of their fallen comrades. Mass Effect 3 will be just like Viva Pinata like that.

edit: fixed turians to quarians

Modifié par Spatchmo, 19 avril 2010 - 01:27 .

[Nostradamoose]

Nightwriter wrote...

Avocado.

Talk about the priiiize in their thread

[Nightwriter]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

Avocado.

Guacamole.

What? It's the next logical step! 

Nachos.

Oh yeah. Goin' all the way.

[Xaijin]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

Avocado.

Guacamole.

What? It's the next logical step! 

Salsa Aguacate

[kraidy1117]

Nostradamoose wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

Avocado.

Talk about the priiiize in their thread

Heavy risk...

[kglaser]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Theres some people who want Tali to have a baby

Which freaks me (and many other Talimancers) out 

Why oh why did you have to remind me of the Pregnant Tali art I unfortunately saw

[thatguy212]

Whether you like tali or not is irrelevent because whichever side you pick bioware has done a good job representing it, if you like tali you get the chance to defend her and if you hate tali you can make the quarians hate her father and (from the way some of the quarians acted) shun her too, so in theory everyone should be happy, but it is the internet... <_<

[Xaijin]

Because that generally happens after people have sex.

[Ray Joel Oh]

Shandepared wrote...
In fact, the only thing that annoys me about the Tali romance in ME2 is that all of a sudden she gets nervous and starts tripping over herself while talking to Shepard. Even in that same conversation it seems like it doesn't gel with her character that well. For example if you choose the dialog option, "Wait, are you making a pass at me?" All of a sudden Tali is really confident and... kind of sultry, I think. Then she starts stuttering and blushing again.

I think making her get flustered like that was a mistake.

I bought it.  Like she's trying to be assertive and aggressive but she's not very confident about it.  And considering how difficult the relationship would be to work out, I can understand her trepidation at even suggesting it.

[smudboy]

Shandepared wrote...

Tali grew on me slowly in the first game. If you only talk to her on the Normandy you don't really learn that much about her. You get a little insight, but mostly you just learn about the Migrant Fleet. It was only on subsequent playthroughs that I started to like her. Her comments in the elevator rides, her different comments on the missions, and her comments on each hub/mission world started to win me over. In the end I liked that she was more of a balance between Liara and Ashley. She was tough enough to handle herself (like Ashley), but not overbearing or insecure. Tali was feminine and delicate like Liara, but not awkward or naive.

In fact, the only thing that annoys me about the Tali romance in ME2 is that all of a sudden she gets nervous and starts tripping over herself while talking to Shepard. Even in that same conversation it seems like it doesn't gel with her character that well. For example if you choose the dialog option, "Wait, are you making a pass at me?" All of a sudden Tali is really confident and... kind of sultry, I think. Then she starts stuttering and blushing again.

I think making her get flustered like that was a mistake.

Tali was interesting in ME1 because of her backstory, culture and stories thereof.  It helped that she knew more about the main opposing force more than anyone else.

In ME2 we get to actually go to that place she's talking about.  There are so many reasons as to why she's still the most interesting character, now through her first hand experience instead of stories.  It's a personal, human relationship on various levels both casual, cultural and professional.  She gets the most screen time, and the most exposition of any other character, and for good reason.  If I can look to anything that BioWare did right in this game, it's Tali.

The flustered part was pretty funny. Keep in mind: she has a massive number of reasons why she likes Shepard, so answering a question that she's thought about a lot about seems simple.  The shy and nervousness is easily understandable, considering she's a Quarian "getting out of her mark", so to speak.  The fact that she finds out Shepard likes her, and she's nearly dancing in her suit.

[Credits]

I think Tali's a cool character...But I'm not obsessed over her. o.o

[Onyx Jaguar]

Credits wrote...

I think Tali's a cool character...But I'm not obsessed over her. o.o

Well you should be

[Nivenus]

Wait... Shandepard. Aren't you the one who always toted Ashley's line about interspecies relations? If so, an odd turnaround, though I won't comment further.

Shandepared wrote...

Tali grew on me slowly in the first game. If you only talk to her on the Normandy you don't really learn that much about her. You get a little insight, but mostly you just learn about the Migrant Fleet. It was only on subsequent playthroughs that I started to like her. Her comments in the elevator rides, her different comments on the missions, and her comments on each hub/mission world started to win me over. In the end I liked that she was more of a balance between Liara and Ashley. She was tough enough to handle herself (like Ashley), but not overbearing or insecure. Tali was feminine and delicate like Liara, but not awkward or naive.

I agree with you here for the most part, though actually I'd switched "feminine and delicate" for "awkward and delicate" - she doesn't strike me as particularly feminine but she's certainly, as you point out, awkward in her interactions with a Shepard who's romancing her. I liked Tali in the first game and was definitely interested in her as a character (of all the party members in ME1, I usually ranked her, Garrus, and Wrex at the top). But I wasn't interested in her as a love interest. In fact, before I saw people talking about it on the forums, I never even considered the idea.

But the way she interacts with you in ME2 really won me over. First of all, she's clearly come unto her own by the time you meet her on Freedom's Progress (and again on Haestrom). She's no longer the young, inexperienced (if capable) girl you rescued from Fisk's thugs on the Citadel. But it's also, as you say, her comments on the hub missions and the fact that she falls somewhere between the (mild) extremes of Liara and Ashley that really convinced me to go ahead and romance her the second time around.

As for her getting flustered, it didn't really seem OOC to me, especially since it wasn't anywhere near as strong as Liara's awkward nature in ME1. For one thing, she's doing more than showing her feelings - she's putting her health on the line and, beyond even just that, she's making a risk in making a move on an alien. So she's going to feel slightly flustered.

Another important point to consider is that, when she makes the initial pass at Shepard, she's really kind of releasing a bunch of pent up feelings she's been keeping under the lid at least since Freedom's Progress and possibly longer (depending on your interpretation). I will agree, however, that her directness in that moment was as charming to me as her awkwardness later on was.

Again, it's that balance and variety that I think is important.

[Collider]

People have different preferences.
/thread

All of the romances are great. Except Jacob's.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Collider wrote...

People have different preferences.
/thread

All of the romances are great. Except Jacob's.

His is the greatest

[Nostradamoose]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Collider wrote...

People have different preferences.
/thread

All of the romances are great. Except Jacob's.

His is the greatest

Amen...