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[Valdan777]

I'm wondering what people think the best combination of class, weapon, and loyalty skill the MOST effective and best for insanity and why.

For the most versatile and best class I would go with the sentinel with AR training and warp ammo. The Sentinel has a skill to breach any enemies defenses, and also has the highest survivability of any class in the game. Though they may not kill quite as fast as a infiltrator, their versatility and survivability makes them a more effective and overall better class. 

Thoughts? Criticism? 

[Tlazolteotl]

What's your definition of effective, though?

Some would say pwning everything in record time = effective, while I'd say most likely to succeed in zero death runs = effective.

[mosor]

Soldier with the revenant. Energy drain if you're facing a lot of shielded enemies, Reave if you're facing a lot of armor and barriers. Just switch them around as necessary. Having Kasumi as a squadmate with her improved flashbang is pretty deadly combo for a soldier who likes to get up close. Use your inferno on organics and disruptor on synthetics.

[Valdan777]

Tlazolteotl wrote...

What's your definition of effective, though?
Some would say pwning everything in record time = effective, while I'd say most likely to succeed in zero death runs = effective.

I'd also say most likely to succeed in zero death runs is the most effective. As well as ability to excel in various combat situations.

[Tom.sparky]

Soldier with Revenant and Shredder Ammo and max upgrades = Kills Harbinger in under 5 seconds! =D

[Bozorgmehr]

Tom.sparky wrote...

Soldier with Revenant and Shredder Ammo and max upgrades = Kills Harbinger in under 5 seconds! =D

Shredder Ammo does no extra damage against armor and barriers thus useless against Harbinger. You should use Inferno or Tungsten Ammo against Harbinger (+60% or +70% dmg), Shredder Ammo +0 %. Shredder Ammo is very effective at Veteran or lower levels, but almost useless at Insanity/Hardcore.

[spacehamsterZH]

Yeah, I'll throw in another vote for soldier with Revenant and Reave.

[Tom.sparky]

oh yeah sorry meant AP ammo

[xiiz]

Soldier, Revenant(+Viper), GSB/Fortification/Barrier.

[SmokeyNinjas]

Up until Horizon i'd say Soldier with Vindicator or Viper & Dominate is the best as the Soldier starts the game strong.
However after Horizon i'd say Vanguard with Eviscerator or Claymore & Reave/Energy Drain is hands down the best as it mixes Sentinel like survivability with Infiltrator level Killing power;)

[Valdan777]

After lots of research, and a little testing, I'm going to change my vote to the solider with revenant (which is the highest DPS gun in the game) and GSB/Fortification/Barrier. With Heightened Adrenaline Rush they have the highest killing power of any class in the game. They are also the most versatile due to having access to shotguns, AR's, and snipers. The bonus power ups the survivability of a solider even more, causing it to be a the highest damage dealing class while having great survivability.

Vanguards at higher levels do develop very good killing power as well as survivability and if played right are amazing. But they are not as versatile as solider's and with GSB/Fortification/Barrier a solider can have more survivability as they get a additional health boost at the start. 

Modifié par Valdan777, 19 avril 2010 - 06:57 .

[Gumbeaux Jr]

Infiltrator, take the widow, and use warp ammo as bonus power. GODLY!

[BeresaadSoldier]

In theory highest DPS class with full upgrades is Vanguard with Claymore and reload trick (if all 8 pellets of the shotgun hit). Using same ammo power it is outdamaged only by infiltrator against armor. Against health/barrier/shields vanguard with claymore and reload trick has no equal. Also Vanguard kills way faster than sentinel, has amazing survivability if you take +% shield gear and use medigel.

[jgomezish]

Great Combos that worked for me were..



Infiltrator + Widow + Warp Ammo



Adept + AR Training + Energy Drain/Warp Ammo



Soldier + Revenant + Geth Shield Boost



I beat NG+ Insanity with all three of these.

[Silvanend]

mosor wrote...

Soldier with the revenant. Energy drain if you're facing a lot of shielded enemies, Reave if you're facing a lot of armor and barriers. Just switch them around as necessary. Having Kasumi as a squadmate with her improved flashbang is pretty deadly combo for a soldier who likes to get up close. Use your inferno on organics and disruptor on synthetics.

Disagree with you... The Revenant may be powerful but it is Incredibly Inaccurate.  Especially on Insanity every peak out of cover counts.  The avenger is the weapon you want.

[SmokeyNinjas]

Valdan777 wrote...

Vanguards at higher levels do develop very good killing power as well as survivability and if played right are amazing. But they are not as versatile as solider's and with GSB/Fortification/Barrier a solider can have more survivability as they get a additional health boost at the start. 

Out of curiosity whats the maxed out cooldown for GSB/Barrier (Fortification gets no upgrade cooldown so that one's out of the question) on a solider because a vanguard can restore all base shields using heavy charge & they last 4 seconds but can charge every 3.9 seconds so a solider will have to be really fast with the GSB/Barrier to beat that survivability.

I agree with BeresaadSoldier that in theory Vanguard with Claymore using the reload trick should have the highest DPS of any class 

Modifié par SmokeyNinjas, 19 avril 2010 - 10:37 .

[Samurai_Wahoo]

So far, my Sentinel + WAmmo + Whatever weapon you are comfortable with = Walk in the park.
My build
Throw: 1
Warp: 0
Guardian: 10
Cryo: 10/Area
Overload: 10/Area
Warp Ammo: 10/Squad
Power Armor: 10

I have no real deficiency against any defense, maybe Armor, but WAmmo does a really good job chewing it up. I have no dependency on a certain squad to fill a need so I get to bring whoever I want.

I went Guardian because I like the extra cool down and Power Armor because of the extra power damage. I play mostly at range so it fits my style.

Modifié par Samurai_Wahoo, 19 avril 2010 - 10:44 .

[Athenau]

I agree with BeresaadSoldier that in theory Vanguard with Claymore using the reload trick should have the highest DPS of any class

Soldier can get the claymore as well and gets a huge damage boost with adrenaline rush.

Disagree with you... The Revenant may be powerful but it is Incredibly Inaccurate.  Especially on Insanity every peak out of cover counts.  The avenger is the weapon you want.

The Revenant's accuracy is fine.  It's much better than the shotguns and in the same class as SMG's (better than the Shuriken and arguably better than the Tempest as well).  Comparing it to the Avenger is silly, the two weapons aren't even in the same universe when it come to killing power.

Modifié par Athenau, 20 avril 2010 - 12:02 .

[NiftuCal]

an adept from ME1.

[baller7345]

@ NiftuCal that is so true. ME1 adept would never be touched.



For me it is an Engineer with maxed Full Cryo and one point in Geth Shield boost. Allows for me to die very few times and go on fast melee rampages.