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[Titan1978]

Has Mass Effect really sold almost 7 million copies? This makes Mass Effect the "heaviest" franchise in Bioware's stable IMO - wow - 7 million = almost 350 million dollars in sales!!!
Bioware and EA must be laughing all the way to the bank!!!


http://ps3.ign.com/a.../1083726p1.html

Modifié par Titan1978, 19 avril 2010 - 03:57 .

[Amethyst Deceiver]

if thats true, here is a reality check for all the forumites:

higher sales = even less of a significance any of your "you should have done ____ from ME1 instead of ____ we have in ME2" wishes.

as far as the company is concerned, benchmark sales = "we did everything right"

sorry to burst yur bubbles

Modifié par Amethyst Deceiver, 19 avril 2010 - 03:56 .

[Brako Shepard]

I cannot see Mass Effect 2 selling that many copies.



Dont get me wrong the game is amazing, but its just not the pick up and play FPS that console kids prefer to play. If you had said Call of Duty had sold that many, or GTA, I would not be surprised.



But the story alone would go over most kids heads, and I doubt this game would ever sell that many.



Even with Mass Effect 2's gameplay aimed more at Gears of War gamers this time around. I would imagine the best it could aim or is around 2 - 3 million copies sold worldwide.

[Dick Delaware]

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

if thats true, here is a reality check for all the forumites:

higher sales = even less of a significance any of your "you should have done ____ from ME1 instead of ____ we have in ME2" wishes.

as far as the company is concerned, benchmark sales = "we did everything right"

sorry to burst yur bubbles

I'm not sure about that. You may be right, so I don't know, but if millions of people have already bought the second game, doesn't that give the company even more incentive to make your choices matter in the third? Let's say Mass Effect 2 was a commercial flop. That would mean not that many people played it. As a result, it would give the developers a reason to ignore continuity within the trilogy because the last one didn't make much money. In this case, greed is good, as Gordon Gecko might say.

Now, this might be wishful thinking on my part, and I still remain skeptical until ME3 is finally released, but it's something worth thinking about.

Modifié par Dick Delaware, 19 avril 2010 - 04:15 .

[Amethyst Deceiver]

Dick Delaware wrote...

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

if thats true, here is a reality check for all the forumites:

higher sales = even less of a significance any of your "you should have done ____ from ME1 instead of ____ we have in ME2" wishes.

as far as the company is concerned, benchmark sales = "we did everything right"

sorry to burst yur bubbles

I'm not sure about that. You may be right, so I don't know, but if millions of people have already bought the second game, doesn't that give the company even more incentive to make your choices matter in the third?

Now, this might be wishful thinking on my part, and I still remain skeptical until ME3 is finally released, but it's something worth thinking about.

im not talking about carrying over in-game choices.

im talking about the countless complaints threads of how things from ME1 should have been better or kept for ME2, instead of ME2 making whatever new changes.

if changes happen from one title to its sequel and the sales reach a benchmarkl status, as far as the company is concerned, those changes were the right ones to make. no amount of "fan feedback" is going to change that

[Amethyst Deceiver]

Brako Shepard wrote...

I cannot see Mass Effect 2 selling that many copies.

Dont get me wrong the game is amazing, but its just not the pick up and play FPS that console kids prefer to play. If you had said Call of Duty had sold that many, or GTA, I would not be surprised.

But the story alone would go over most kids heads, and I doubt this game would ever sell that many.

Even with Mass Effect 2's gameplay aimed more at Gears of War gamers this time around. I would imagine the best it could aim or is around 2 - 3 million copies sold worldwide.

this kind of baseless generalization of the "average gamer's" intelligence level is same type of **** that causes really bad decisions made from the executive level in any given company.

so long as you people perpetuate this kind of delusional stereotype, expect more bull*** to happen from gaming corporations.

the bottom line is, business execs at the top tier of the dev company will continue to think the fanbase of its franchise is "stupid" as long as you keep validating that myth.

way to go

Modifié par Amethyst Deceiver, 19 avril 2010 - 04:20 .

[Dick Delaware]

That's valid. People vote with their wallets, after all.

[Kalfear]

Errr someone help me out here on two things



First the article says 6.6 not over 7 million so WTF the OP talking about and why is it in PS3 news?



This makes no sence

[Onyx Jaguar]

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

Brako Shepard wrote...

I cannot see Mass Effect 2 selling that many copies.

Dont get me wrong the game is amazing, but its just not the pick up and play FPS that console kids prefer to play. If you had said Call of Duty had sold that many, or GTA, I would not be surprised.

But the story alone would go over most kids heads, and I doubt this game would ever sell that many.

Even with Mass Effect 2's gameplay aimed more at Gears of War gamers this time around. I would imagine the best it could aim or is around 2 - 3 million copies sold worldwide.

this kind of baseless generalization of the "average gamer's" intelligence level is same type of **** that causes really bad decisions made from the executive level in any given company.

so long as you people perpetuate this kind of delusional stereotype, expect more bull*** to happen from gaming corporations.

the bottom line is, business execs at the top tier of the dev company will continue to think the fanbase of its franchise is "stupid" as long as you keep validating that myth.

way to go

This

[Dick Delaware]

OP screwed up. Still don't know why it's in PS3 news. The article sounds like pure PR fellatio, IGN are a bunch of hacks.

[Agent_Dark_]

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

if thats true, here is a reality check for all the forumites:

higher sales = even less of a significance any of your "you should have done ____ from ME1 instead of ____ we have in ME2" wishes.

as far as the company is concerned, benchmark sales = "we did everything right"

sorry to burst yur bubbles

Keep in mind that ME1 was released as an xbox exclusive with the PC port not coming until 6months later.  It also had nowhere near the marketing hype that ME2 had.  Even still, it did 1.6million sales in the first 6weeks on the xbox.  That's not bad.  For comparison, Modern Warfare 2 sold 4.2million in its first month on the xbox (MW2 being the biggest release of a game ever).

Modifié par Agent_Dark_, 19 avril 2010 - 04:42 .

[Dick Delaware]

Agent_Dark_ wrote...
Keep in mind that ME1 was released as an xbox exclusive with the PC port not coming until 6months later.  It also had nowhere near the marketing hype that ME2 had.  Even still, it did 1.6million sales in the first 6weeks on the xbox.  That's not bad.  For comparison, Modern Warfare 2 sold 4.7million in its first month on the xbox (MW2 being the biggest release of a game ever).

videogames.yahoo.com/events/plugged-in/-modern-warfare-2-breaks-day-one-entertainment-sales-record/1372471

Uh... Modern Warfare 2 sold 4.7 million on it's first DAY.

Modifié par Dick Delaware, 19 avril 2010 - 04:50 .

[Agent_Dark_]

Dick Delaware wrote...

www.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/commentary/games/2005/11/69475

Uh... Modern Warfare 2 sold 4.7 million on it's first DAY.

Err, I'm not sure what your link is about? 

I was talking about xbox360 sales alone, not total sales.  ME1 was initially an xbox exclusive so I was comparing it to MW2 xbox sales.  I was incorrect though, MW2 sold 4.2million in its first month on the xbox not 4.7million (I got that mixed up with the 4.7million across all platforms on its first day).

Modifié par Agent_Dark_, 19 avril 2010 - 04:42 .

[Dick Delaware]

My bad, Agent_Dark_. That was a link from another thread, I put in the wrong URL. It's edited now. Can you get a source that says MW2 sold 4.2 million in its first month?

[Agent_Dark_]

www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/12/november-2009-npd/

MW2 was released Nov 10

[askanec]

Titan1978 wrote...

Has Mass Effect really sold almost 7 million copies? This makes Mass Effect the "heaviest" franchise in Bioware's stable IMO - wow - 7 million = almost 350 million dollars in sales!!!
Bioware and EA must be laughing all the way to the bank!!!

When you pay $50 for a boxed copy of Mass Effect 2 in Walmart, Bioware's bank account doesn't increase by $50. Walmart takes a cut. For whatever you might think of Walmart's intelligence, they don't buy a game for $50 and sell it for $50. Similarly, anyone else up in the supply chain (such as the licensed distributors) takes a cut. 

At the end of the day, Bioware might see only $20 for each boxed copy sold. Then they gotta pay back the bank or Electronic Arts the money they got for making the game, followed by other financial obligations.

Moreover, we don't know how much Bioware spent to make ME2, so looking at sales alone is no indication "they are laughing all the way to the bank". To illustrate with a hypothetical example:

ME1 costs $40 million to make. Bioware got $70 million in sales, so they made $30 million
ME2 costs $100 million to make. Bioware got $120 million in sales, so they made $20 million

So even though it sold less, ME1 could have made more money than ME2.

[BellatrixLugosi]

askanec wrote...

Titan1978 wrote...

Has Mass Effect really sold almost 7 million copies? This makes Mass Effect the "heaviest" franchise in Bioware's stable IMO - wow - 7 million = almost 350 million dollars in sales!!!
Bioware and EA must be laughing all the way to the bank!!!

When you pay $50 for a boxed copy of Mass Effect 2 in Walmart, Bioware's bank account doesn't increase by $50. Walmart takes a cut. For whatever you might think of Walmart's intelligence, they don't buy a game for $50 and sell it for $50. Similarly, anyone else up in the supply chain (such as the licensed distributors) takes a cut. 

At the end of the day, Bioware might see only $20 for each boxed copy sold. Then they gotta pay back the bank or Electronic Arts the money they got for making the game, followed by other financial obligations.

Moreover, we don't know how much Bioware spent to make ME2, so looking at sales alone is no indication "they are laughing all the way to the bank". To illustrate with a hypothetical example:

ME1 costs $40 million to make. Bioware got $70 million in sales, so they made $30 million
ME2 costs $100 million to make. Bioware got $120 million in sales, so they made $20 million

So even though it sold less, ME1 could have made more money than ME2.

Where did you get those budget figures, and can I get a link?

[Dick Delaware]

It was a hypothetical example, Bellatrix.

[askanec]

BellatrixLugosi wrote...

Where did you get those budget figures, and can I get a link?

As I mentioned, those are just hypothetical examples used to illustrate a point.

[BellatrixLugosi]

indeed

[atheelogos]

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

if thats true, here is a reality check for all the forumites:

higher sales = even less of a significance any of your "you should have done ____ from ME1 instead of ____ we have in ME2" wishes.

as far as the company is concerned, benchmark sales = "we did everything right"

sorry to burst yur bubbles

"as far as the company is concerned, benchmark sales = "we did everything
right""
If you truly believe that then you don't know the first thing about Bioware

[GreenSoda]

I'm still convinced that those 6.6 million units are

a) "shipped" numbers, and
for the whole franchise (ME1+2) on both platforms.

Modifié par GreenSoda, 19 avril 2010 - 06:15 .