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Bluebruiser

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Ok so here's the question. Is it better to use rapid fire weapons or damage weapons with your squad.

For instance, I've noticed that your squad mates do more damage using the Tempest over the Locust. Also squad mates seem to be more effective with the collector rifle than the vindicator.

This is the opposite for a pc player in most cases so my question is, do you all use the burst weapons for squad mates or do you stick with automatics?

I'm not crazy about the Collector Rifle. For one it looks dumb and i don't like weapons that are just given to you. That said I find that my squad mates don't really do much damage with teh vindicator...tempted to give them the original assault rifle...

thoughts?

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Base damage with any weapon is generally cut in half when the weapon is used by anyone not named Shepard.



I personally stick with the following:



Vindicator Battle Rifle

Mantis Sniper Rifle

Eviscerator Shotgun

Carnifex Hand Cannon'

Locust Sub-Machine Gun



Of course, if I had the option, they'd be using either the Vindicator or the Locust, and wouldn't bother bringing any other weapon. That's me, though.

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I give Mantis to Garrus, and Viper to Thane. Just because.



Other than that, it really doesn't matter much what weapon you give them, they're more valuable for their powers and distraction anyway.

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One thing I will say is that when your squad mates use automatics i've noticed they die faster because they stand up for longer bursts. But they will also do more damage to the target.

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That's actually part of the reason for my load-out. The weapons are burst weapons, so my squaddies have to drop back into cover more often. Like cruc1al, I only use my squaddies for their powers, but they can't use those powers if they're dead. Burst weapons keep them in cover more, and make them more likely to be alive when I need to use their powers.

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That's pretty convincing actually.



One thing I will say, Incisor sniper rifle does sick damage when Garrus is using it....he packs a punch. Some say its cheating but I prefer when my team mates are contributing more...seems more real.

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I don't have the Incisor, so I have no experience with it.

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swk3000 wrote...

Base damage with any weapon is generally cut in half when the weapon is used by anyone not named Shepard.

I personally stick with the following:

Vindicator Battle Rifle
Mantis Sniper Rifle
Eviscerator Shotgun
Carnifex Hand Cannon'
Locust Sub-Machine Gun

Of course, if I had the option, they'd be using either the Vindicator or the Locust, and wouldn't bother bringing any other weapon. That's me, though.


Identical here. I give Legion the Geth Pulse Rifle though for ****s and giggles.

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Bluebruiser wrote...

Ok so here's the question. Is it better to use rapid fire weapons or damage weapons with your squad.

For instance, I've noticed that your squad mates do more damage using the Tempest over the Locust. Also squad mates seem to be more effective with the collector rifle than the vindicator.

This is the opposite for a pc player in most cases so my question is, do you all use the burst weapons for squad mates or do you stick with automatics?

I'm not crazy about the Collector Rifle. For one it looks dumb and i don't like weapons that are just given to you. That said I find that my squad mates don't really do much damage with teh vindicator...tempted to give them the original assault rifle...

thoughts?


Personally I try to use weapons strong against specific armor types in battle. For instance if I have Miranda on my squad, I will have her using SMGs most of the time unless I am fighting the Blood Pack. I switch to pistols then. However, with the Locust SMG out there now, it is pointless to use pistols on her. ^_^

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incisor is like a vindicator battle rifle on crack for the npc's. Not as good for a pc simply because it's got a smaller clip and it has a lot of recoil.

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thane + zaeed + maxed squad class skills + incisors = mission where you don't have to fire a single shot

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Bluebruiser wrote...

Ok so here's the question. Is it better to use rapid fire weapons or damage weapons with your squad.

For instance, I've noticed that your squad mates do more damage using the Tempest over the Locust.


The locust have an armor multiplier...
All fights have some armored bosses.

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swk3000 wrote...

Base damage with any weapon is generally cut in half when the weapon is used by anyone not named Shepard.
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Source???
Half is to much.70-80 percent is more accurate.

Modifié par tonnactus, 19 avril 2010 - 11:01 .


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tonnactus wrote...

swk3000 wrote...

Base damage with any weapon is generally cut in half when the weapon is used by anyone not named Shepard.
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Source???
Half is to much.70-80 percent is more accurate.


Coalesced.ini.
Vindicator, Avenger, Shuriken, Predator, Mantis:
DamageAI=1.1f
DamageHench=0.55f

Revenant, Tempest, Carnifex:
DamageAI=1.0f
DamageHench=0.5f

Katana:
DamageAI=0.85f
DamageHench=0.55f

Viper:
DamageAI=1.1f
DamageHench=0.65f

It doesn't say if there's a modifier for Shepard... I would guess it's 1.0. But at least it seems true that, not taking difficulty modifiers into account, squaddies do about half the damage enemies do.

Modifié par cruc1al, 19 avril 2010 - 11:37 .


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swk3000 wrote...

I personally stick with the following:

Vindicator Battle Rifle
Mantis Sniper Rifle
Eviscerator Shotgun
Carnifex Hand Cannon'
Locust Sub-Machine Gun


I use basically the same setup except I replace the Mantis with the Incisor and I interchange the Locust and Tempest frequently depending on the mission (if I require more armor or shield/barrier piercing).

I'm actually very glad that they included the Locust to be honest.  It adds an element of choice when I take squad members with me to missions and having the option to optimize their effectiveness.  I'm looking forward to new weapon DLCs for sure.