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Devs.....why did you downgrade FemShep??....the more I play..the more I notice :-((


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#26
Epantiras

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Firesteel7 wrote...

I wish they just kept the ME1 walking animations, they looked fine for both and looked natural, it's a win win. If they did do seperate animations, that would probably come at the expense of some other feature because there are millions of animations in game, than you double that, that is a helluva lot of space.


At the expense of something like... the fish tank? Or the interactive bathroom in the commander's quarter? Or the... (oh that will make people angry) the Hammerhead?

/sarcasm

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My nickname for femshep is "Lurch"

It really is too bad, the animations and fluidity of movement in ME1 were wonderful for both sexes. Movement and animation is jarring in the second.

Modifié par Destructo-Bot, 20 avril 2010 - 07:02 .


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Just because she’s a soldier shouldn’t make her less feminine.

Maybe the developers should have spent some of that time they use researching shooter games and spent a few hours looking at games with female leads.

I will admit I don’t like the N7 (Master Chief clone) armor. I liked the more appropriate form fitting armor from ME1 for moth sexes. Armor is a joke in ME2 anyways. I can get killed just as fast as Miranda, who as we know wears a skintight jumpsuit or Jack who wears very little actually...


Bet she doesn’t walk manish…http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225912/Combat-Barbie-Soldier-new-Miss-England-Linford-Christies-niece-hands-crown-nightclub-brawl.html

Modifié par Darth Drago, 20 avril 2010 - 07:10 .


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From a programming/rendering animation point of you it's less labor intensive and less load on the Xbox 360 to have the same skeletal animation for both male and female Shepards. I assume there are similar animations for team members too, especially those of similar body types like Tali and Kasumi. My only problem with it, or Shepard animations in general, is that weird head sway Shepard does when running. I'm surprised no one spoofed it in a YouTube video yet.

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Her walk animation is bad, true it's bad on MaleShep, but even worse on FemShep, the fact that the animation doesn't fit her smaller frame makesit really bad/


In all fairness MaleShep's walk and run in ME1 was extremely girly. Scott Evil girly.

Seperate character animations FTW!

Modifié par Zatwu, 20 avril 2010 - 07:12 .


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I'm ok with the animations for the most part. While I don't care for the movement when she's in a dress, in armor they fit her role well and I never felt that femShep became butch-like. Besides, I really dislike the jogging animation in ME1. It was so wimpy looking, what with her arms pushed inward.

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I played through as a maleShep and a femShep and can agree with some of the things said. Some of the femShep animations were off, likely the result of streamlining the entire game from classes to combat to leveling and to animation. Not always a good thing...The romance options for femShep sucked, I'm not sure of another way to put it, though I do enjoy Hale's voice talent so I ended up enjoying that playthrough better than with maleShep.



I love Mass Effect, don't get me wrong. The above comments are criticisms, sure, but are mentioned to hopefully give constructive feedback. FemShep would look better with different animations and a little more attention from the writers. The cannon Shep might be the male one, but why skimp on what is essentially a creative opportunity for replayability as a femShep?

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What bugs me about femshep is that the dlc armors and outfits change her physique from outfit to outfit. Look at her "measurements" in the dlc armors compared to her regular one, the inferno looks like it would be VERY uncomfortable...if you know what i am saying.

Also things like the width of her shoulders and stuff change based on outfits like...compare the orange outfit to her black dress and her shoulders just change significantly. Personally I PREFER the physique she has in the dress and i hope future dlc outfits base themselves off of that, it just looks better on her and makes her look different from the rest of the females in the universe.

While I'm on the subject, howcome there are no fat people in mass effect, or short people, or children? (Little Krogan would be the most adorable thing ever, and little asari would just be the CUTEST EVER) I mean okay you're in areas where children wouldn't hang out typically but it'd be nice to see one or two around. Plus it'd be great to see some fatties and people with different bodies in the ME world. I think that's part of the reason why most people can't remember most of the quest based humans in the game. There's no fat cranky old guy. what's with that bioware huh??

Modifié par Doctor_Jackstraw, 20 avril 2010 - 08:06 .


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Hmmmm, I actually agree with you. I loaded ME1 and and took a quick walk and run with both female Shepard and Male Shepard....and their animations are different. Not hugely different, but different enough to tell which is male and female......then I loaded ME2.....honestly, fem Shep could have used a bit more care and love from the Devs. I always felt that in ME2 fem Shep was more of a female clone of male Shep, but I figured the Devs did this from a developers perspective. However, after seeing the different animations for both male and fem Shep in ME1, I don't see why they couldn't have done the same for ME2.



I also noticed the floating shoulder pads the other day too. *sigh* sad to say, but fem Shep was a bit robbed this time around....well, more than a "bit" if you count the bad animations, romance scenes, glitched armor etc. Still was a freakin awesome game though. Hopefully in ME3 fem Shep will get the love and care she deserves : )

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Darth Drago wrote...


Just because she’s a soldier shouldn’t make her less feminine.

Maybe the developers should have spent some of that time they use researching shooter games and spent a few hours looking at games with female leads.

I will admit I don’t like the N7 (Master Chief clone) armor. I liked the more appropriate form fitting armor from ME1 for moth sexes. Armor is a joke in ME2 anyways. I can get killed just as fast as Miranda, who as we know wears a skintight jumpsuit or Jack who wears very little actually...


Bet she doesn’t walk manish…http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225912/Combat-Barbie-Soldier-new-Miss-England-Linford-Christies-niece-hands-crown-nightclub-brawl.html

I like the look of the armor fine, but its abilities are nerfed so much that you're right, I could go into a fight with nothing and it would be the same. I'm fine with the bulkiness, it still doesn't look very much like the mjolnir armor from Halo though (see comparison below)
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I'm not satisfied with the way Shepard walks now in general. That ***** leg...

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This has been a pet hate of mine since I first imported my fShep to ME2. I don't think anyone wants her to be toptoeing around in high heels as she heads on in to combat, but it's so painfully obvious no time has been spent on thinking about her as a female character.



It's how she walks (in civvies, I don't really notice it in armor), how she runs (but mShep runs bad too), but it's mainly how she moves when she's interacting with others. When she sits down with Garrus, or in Miranda's cabin, and even sometimes when she's standing. It's so off-putting.



Coupled with Hale's uniform 'butch' delivery (of course, when she's not doing '****') - it does break immersion for me when playing as her. I completed 1 full playthrough with her, but I have 2 others ongoing that I just can't finish because I'm just not feeling it.



And that makes me sad.

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I dont think its just FShep to be honest.



I think the walking and worse the running animations in ME2 are really bad. Shepard walks and runs like a retard in both sexes.

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This again.

Yawn.

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Am I the only one who didn't see weird animations with femshep? She seems to have the same as maleshep, but i don't see any bugs that maleshep didn't have.



I have the PC copy, maybe that's it?

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KainrycKarr wrote...

Am I the only one who didn't see weird animations with femshep? She seems to have the same as maleshep, but i don't see any bugs that maleshep didn't have.

I have the PC copy, maybe that's it?

No. I have the X360 version and I don't see it either.

People just want a reason to whine.

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FitScotGaymer wrote...

I dont think its just FShep to be honest.

I think the walking and worse the running animations in ME2 are really bad. Shepard walks and runs like a retard in both sexes.


The walking and running style is an intended feature created around male shep which works as intended for male shep. You may dislike the decision to do it that way but there is nothing inherently broken about male shep's animations. Now the problem is that fem shep has a much smaller body structure which creates a ton of really ugly animations like floating shen sitting, armor pieces not fitting and so on. Those do show gross carelessness and a certain ammount of disregard. Personally I've only played as male but I can see how things would be very unlikable if such things happened in my game. Having fem shep run on the same movement animations as male shep is the problem....I have no problem with male shep's animations but I can see how they wouldn't work for fem shep.

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Actually, I think all Bioware needs to do is to use Femshep's ME1 walking/running animations in ME3.

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FlyingWalrus wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Am I the only one who didn't see weird animations with femshep? She seems to have the same as maleshep, but i don't see any bugs that maleshep didn't have.

I have the PC copy, maybe that's it?

No. I have the X360 version and I don't see it either.

People just want a reason to whine.

I disagree. I think this is one of the more valid complaints that people have made. While it's certainly something that's out of anybody's hands due to the restraints on the developers, it doesn't change the fact that there are some serious flaws with FemShep's model and many of those problems don't exist with ManShep.

I agree with you that people like to complain, but at least this one has some legitimacy.

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i didn't really see a problem with FShep (played through like 8 or 9 times) and I personally think voice acting wise MShep got the short end of the stick(no offence intended I'm just sayin)

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jkashx wrote...

i didn't really see a problem with FShep (played through like 8 or 9 times) and I personally think voice acting wise MShep got the short end of the stick(no offence intended I'm just sayin)


Personally I'm a fan of Jennifer Hale as a high profile game voice actor but I couldn't stand her performance in ME1. I have never had any problem with Mark Meer's acting.....I thought his voice suited the character really well.

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I think his voice suits the character really well also I'm just sayin in ME2 there wasn't really much inflection in MSheps voice or at least I didn't hear it

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When she's talking to Samara, she doesn't sit on the floor....she floats. Her arms go through her legs.

Both male and female Shepards have these animation issues. Even NPCs do, for example Joker and TIM float in their chairs.

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I sure male Shepard's walking animation is the way it is because of what happens in the beginning of the game..

I like it.

Modifié par Screech47, 21 avril 2010 - 12:09 .


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Veeno wrote...

When she's talking to Samara, she doesn't sit on the floor....she floats. Her arms go through her legs.

Both male and female Shepards have these animation issues. Even NPCs do, for example Joker and TIM float in their chairs.

Basically, it's a game not being perfect. Onoz.