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[Timerider42]

I think ME2 is better replay-wise. I've been trying to finish my second run of ME1 and all the mako driving stuff is just painful.

[wolfwarp]

BP20125810 wrote...

After beating the game on Insanity, and beating it for the sixth time, I'm starting to stop caring about playing it.  I mean I never played a game six times, but I ended up playing the multiplayer.  Mass Effect 2 didn't come close to the replayablity of Mass Effect 1.  It's more of a pain in the ass to loose all of your upgrades that I worked so hard for at the begining of each palythrough than it is hard.  Its not like they couldn't have given us more upgrades and increase the enemies.  It just gets old dealing with the same mining for upgrades, opening scenes, and the SAME equipment.  Its not that hard to give an extra gun or two at a replay.  Mass Effect 1 could be replayed even without DLC, and it seems the Mass Effect 2 its basing its replay value COMPLETLY on their DLC.  Until someting else gets released, I'll be playing other games.

Agree with you.  I played ME 1 multiple times.  It has high playability.  ME 2 looks pretty.  But not as high in playability.  I have only played once.  Tried to play again but I gave up.  No continous leveling.  Very leveled in 2nd playthrough.  Starting another character just seems tedious.  I would start another ME 1 toon any time.

[bjdbwea]

BP20125810 wrote...

Mass Effect 2 didn't come close to the replayablity of Mass Effect 1.

This. Shooting up stupid enemies in completely linear levels where always the same tactics apply, only gets you so far as far as replayability is concerned. I replay ME 1 for its fantastic story, amazing cutscenes, choices that matter and make a visible difference, believable NPCs, and beautiful romances. ME 2 has way too little of these things, and where it does, it's usually done worse.

Edit: Oh yeah, and for the space exploration part too (Mako). Plus I like to have an inventory and an actual RPG system. These last two things may not have been perfect in ME 1, but to trash them altogether, only decreased replayability further.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 21 avril 2010 - 04:12 .

[IrishSpectre257]

My latest playthrough probably would have been my last for awhile had the USB support not made modding 360 saves much simpler.

[BP20125810]

Yeh, I've played it six times, but I would have played it more if it had more stuff. The fact that i still ended up playing it six times is a testament to Bioware. (Plus i get REALLY tired of COD MOD 2, and I gota get m my mind off of GOW3)

[Dick Delaware]

bjdbwea wrote...
This. Shooting up stupid enemies in completely linear levels where always the same tactics apply, only gets you so far as far as replayability is concerned. I replay ME 1 for its fantastic story, amazing cutscenes, choices that matter and make a visible difference, believable NPCs, and beautiful romances. ME 2 has way too little of these things, and where it does, it's usually done worse.

Edit: Oh yeah, and for the space exploration part too (Mako). Plus I like to have an inventory and an actual RPG system. These last two things may not have been perfect in ME 1, but to trash them altogether, only decreased replayability further.

... wut?

Story was decent, nothing amazing. I mean, hell, how could you not see a huge plot twist coming? It's your typical BioWare formula: some big crisis occurs in the beginning ==> you become a Jedi/Grey Warden/Spectre ==> you collect 4 Star Maps ==> OMGplottwist!!!! ==> Final planet/quest hub ==> Dramatic conclusion ==> ??? ===> Profit!

Modifié par Dick Delaware, 21 avril 2010 - 09:58 .

[sorrowandsadness]

and beautiful creatures

[Homey C-Dawg]

I've played through ME2 about 8 or 9 times. I wanted to master every class by doing at least 1 play with each. Did 2 sentinel playthroughs and 2 engies (had a second soldier playthrough but didn't finish it).



I probably did about as many ME1 playthroughs. I fell completely in love with ME1 when I first got it, and had quite a few import saves for ME2.

[screwoffreg]

Im saving any more replays for more DLC. I will say I have played this game quite a bit, so I certainly have got my money's worth. I have criticisms, of course, but overall a good experience. They always intended ME 2 to be the darker game in the series (though I personally think it was rather heavy handed how they did so) and I hope ME 3 will be a synthesis of everything they have learned from fans and reviews..

[wolfsite]

I have gone between ME 1 and 2 a few times since the second games release (I created six new characters) and frankly I'm still surprised at all the hidden extras and dialogue I keep finding in ME1, I've been going back to that game more often than ME2 though for some reason.



Don't get me wrong ME2 is great but ME1 feels less......... confining for some reason





But ya still playing, still a couple of story and character combos to try, finally decided to do ME1 on Insanity, now I just have to do ME2 on Insanity.

[TJSolo]

Dick Delaware wrote...

bjdbwea wrote...
This. Shooting up stupid enemies in completely linear levels where always the same tactics apply, only gets you so far as far as replayability is concerned. I replay ME 1 for its fantastic story, amazing cutscenes, choices that matter and make a visible difference, believable NPCs, and beautiful romances. ME 2 has way too little of these things, and where it does, it's usually done worse.

Edit: Oh yeah, and for the space exploration part too (Mako). Plus I like to have an inventory and an actual RPG system. These last two things may not have been perfect in ME 1, but to trash them altogether, only decreased replayability further.

... wut?

Story was decent, nothing amazing. I mean, hell, how could you not see a huge plot twist coming? It's your typical BioWare formula: some big crisis occurs in the beginning ==> you become a Jedi/Grey Warden/Spectre ==> you collect 4 Star Maps ==> OMGplottwist!!!! ==> Final planet/quest hub ==> Dramatic conclusion ==> ??? ===> Profit!

That all depends on the gamers level of knowledge of Bioware cliche. Not everyone here has played every Bioware game to date in their respective order of release.
Companies usually stick to the formulas they know well, nothing wrong with that. I am not tired of the basic formula, my problems are coming from the execution.

[BP20125810]

You just shouldn't have too invent new ways to play. That all goes back to the inventory system and loot.

[javierabegazo]

BP20125810 wrote...

You just shouldn't have too invent new ways to play. That all goes back to the inventory system and loot.

As disinterested as you are, would you go so far as to say that ME2 WASN'T worth the $60.00 ?

[mybudgee]

Of course it was worth the $. As much as i cannot deny i miss *some* of the rpg/micromanagement from ME1, the sequel is WAY better. Besides, part one was too annoying with all the ally achievements ( i never was able to get any ) and the audio was sometimes grating. "enemy is everywhere!" X infinty...

[BP20125810]

javierabegazo wrote...

BP20125810 wrote...

You just shouldn't have too invent new ways to play. That all goes back to the inventory system and loot.

As disinterested as you are, would you go so far as to say that ME2 WASN'T worth the $60.00 ?

Nah, I loved the game.  But, after following its production for a year, I'm begining to get interested in other games.  Which is inevitable, but still a process that everyone has to go through.

[tonnactus]

The build variety that existed in Mass Effect dont exist now.Sentinel with combat drone.Nope. Vanguard with tech armor or singularity? Forget it.
The global cooldown also prevent that power classes uses a lot of their abilities at least at higher difficulties.
The mainstory is pure crap.Only some good sidestorys like grunts ritus rescue Mass Effect 2.

Modifié par tonnactus, 22 avril 2010 - 05:31 .

[BP20125810]

If you think about it, I've been followoing nonstop since over a year ago when the first teaser with Shepard's uniform on a geth (which is a little odd now when you think of the fact that didn't play much into the actual game) up till now, and i probably won;t stop checking. I guess I'm just surprised that I'm paying more attention to other games.

[Gumbeaux Jr]

I personally think ME2 is so much better than ME1, and I played the hell out of ME1

[MrAnthonyDraft]

screwoffreg wrote...

I think a break from the game makes it a fresher experience later on. I havent played in awhile but I still hang around the forums.

Yeah I agree on this one.
In ME1 got in my 2nd playthrough, but then got bored. And in this year I realized that it is not too far till the ME2 comes out, so I started to play ME1 again and it was mind blowing, for 2 more playthroughs at least

[ShakeZoohla]

Kileyan wrote...

Maybe it is that I have grown older since ME1. I am not really sure, I can't put a finger on it. But I played ME1 to death, loved the replay with my same character again. I know its weak, but I really liked finding new slightly better armor or weapons each play.

ME2 I played once, and I've started a half a dozen characters but can't really get interested past the first mission to find Mordin.

Once I start having to mine for materials, I just stop playing, start a new character and quit again.


I know some dog my type of players, the equipment junkies, I know, this isn't Diablo. But I miss being able to play and replay and find new stuff, even if its just slighting better versions of old stuff. I find little reason to replay when nothing changes, not even the equipment. It is just playing the same game again, over and over, I know I will never find anything random,  the new smg will always be in the same place, the upgrades will always be in the same place.

Yes, this is a talky story driven game, i loved it. But some weapon, armor and upgrade collecting would go a long way to support the linear story. ME1 was a inear story, but I had fun playing again, just wandering what iems I would find. ME2 has so much better gameplay, it is a shame that there is little reason to play it again. The awesome gameplay combined with random items and more reason to play it over and over again would have rocked.

I had the same feeling after I had beat ME2.  It just seemed a little unsatisfying, and I found myself excusing the game and dismissing my disapointment as me just getting older and growing out of games.  And then I replayed ME1, and for whatever reason, I got sucked back in.  I have since decided that ME1 is a really really good game (my favorite of all time), and that ME2 is just another standard 9 out of 10 game that every reviewer tells you to buy.  My integrity forces me to declare that ME2 is, for me, a shallow game.

[Pocketgb]

I've stopped playing it, sure, but I do that for every game. Doesn't mean I didn't play the crap out of it: 6 playthroughs for me, all as Soldier Paragon. Loved it.

[Brako Shepard]

Mass Effect 2 has been the only new release game I have bought this year, and I doubt I will buy anything else until HITMAN gets its next release later this year.



As I have gotten older, I have lost interest in a lot of game genres. Its mostly RPG/Action Adventure games I play these days.



But with devs like BioWare Rockstar and Bethesda. I atleast know I am going to have atleast 2-3 qaulity games per year. everything else I usually lose interest in due to hating repatition. Its only the devs mentioned and IO who make games worth playing over and over.



For the full price of Mass Effect and the DLC content I bought. It has been the best gaming purchase for quite a few months.

[diskoh]

i lost interest after my 6th playthrough. then save editing opened up and i've gained some interest to do a 7th and maybe 8th.

[atheelogos]

Losing interest in ME2? No never. I've probably beaten this game over 15 times and I'm still going. I'm about to go back and play ME1 two more times and then bring those files over and beat ME2 with those characters.