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Mr.BlazenGlazen

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 So, lets say that the illusive man is stupid enough to try to assasinate shepard while he/she is on the campaign to fend off the reapers and save the galaxy. I'm sure that the illusive man will try to get shepard killed, but since he no knows what shepard is capable of hes going to think the best course of action against him is to either assasinate him or capture him alive. 

How do you think this might play out?

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You assume TIM wants to assassinate the person hunting the Reapers?

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Klimy

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Im replaying ME2 3d time, and still can't brush off a thought that he made a some sort of a deal with Collectors to give them Shep. Its just too many "Opps, I forgot to tell you that it was an ambush", but it's just me as a spectre thinking.

If what you say will be true (**better to discuss this than most of old crap we talked here so many times) I think he will do it as usual:

give them some tip about a mission and will forget to mention that its an ambush or no way to win (yeah, right). So that if it will go not as he planed, he will just go like: "Ops, I didn't know that..." and look like a nice guy.



I don't trust him, and if he will show up in ME3 again, I will not mind that Im pure paragon and use renegade interrupt to shovel a gun in his *pick a place of your liking* and unload a full clip.

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GodWood wrote...

You assume TIM wants to assassinate the person hunting the Reapers?


I don't know. Maybe TIM is easily angered. 

Oh! I got it! This is how ME3 will start and why TIM will want to kill Shep.

TIM: Who took my banana!? 

Shep: I don't know....

TIM: Who took my banana!? I left it right there!

Shep: I didn't see it.....

TIM: SOMEONE STOLE MY BANANA!!!!!!

Shep: No one stole your banana, man. Your paranoid!

TIM: P-p-paranoid!!!!??? I-I KILL YOU!!!!!!

(Unintelligible Fighting followed by ten seconds of silence)

TIM: Oh...... There's my banana...... Sorry.......

Yep..... That is what is gonna happen. I'm calling it.

P.S.- Dr. Rockzo FTW.  

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Klimy wrote...
I don't trust him, and if he will show up in ME3 again, I will not mind that Im pure paragon and use renegade interrupt to shovel a gun in his *pick a place of your liking* and unload a full clip.


Sounds like you're more of a militant fascist than a paragon, pushing your morality with a gun and executing people you don't like.

This is how paladins ruin RPGs

Modifié par marshalleck, 21 avril 2010 - 07:02 .


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Klimy wrote...

Im replaying ME2 3d time, and still can't brush off a thought that he made a some sort of a deal with Collectors to give them Shep. Its just too many "Opps, I forgot to tell you that it was an ambush", but it's just me as a spectre thinking.
If what you say will be true (**better to discuss this than most of old crap we talked here so many times) I think he will do it as usual:
give them some tip about a mission and will forget to mention that its an ambush or no way to win (yeah, right). So that if it will go not as he planed, he will just go like: "Ops, I didn't know that..." and look like a nice guy.

I don't trust him, and if he will show up in ME3 again, I will not mind that Im pure paragon and use renegade interrupt to shovel a gun in his *pick a place of your liking* and unload a full clip.


if TIM wanted to sell Shep to the collectors he had no need to res him, he had even saved billions of credits

cerberus kinda play the role of "necessary evil" and give an option for the final paragon/renegade choice... i think almost no one had turned down the request to leave intact the station if it was Anderson to ask for it. Cerb instead is a group with questionable morality who put the "needs" of a single race (or a single man) above everything else.

i dont think Cerberus will play a big part in me3 (untill there are some big twists) TIM have no need to try to assasinato or make the life difficult to Shep... in the end Shepard is trying to save the galaxy so he is still "usefull" for the humanity

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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

 So, lets say that the illusive man is stupid enough to try to assasinate shepard while he/she is on the campaign to fend off the reapers and save the galaxy. I'm sure that the illusive man will try to get shepard killed, but since he no knows what shepard is capable of hes going to think the best course of action against him is to either assasinate him or capture him alive. 

How do you think this might play out?


I simply can't get myself to buy into this. Getting even with Shepard and sending the message "Don't **** with Cerberus!" just doesn't make up for what Cerberus and Mankind are bound to lose.
Okay, that may depend on your style of play - the ultimate badass renegade will probably not be missed as much by the rest of the galaxy as that boring paragon do-gooder. But if you're looking for someone with the potential to get Mankind and some allies to rally behind him/her, I couldn't even pin a name on the guy or girl on second place.
Either you start grooming a new champion, or you bite your tongue and deal with the one you have.
"Here's some data you may find interesting, Shepard. You don't trust me, fine. You don't like me, swell. You can discount it as a trap, you can dismiss it and start airquoting at me all you like. But people will die if you do, and it will be your fault. Be seeing you!"

Modifié par Wildecker, 21 avril 2010 - 08:06 .


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I don't see TIM being rash enough to go after Shepard at this time. He spent more than 4 billion credits and around 200 billion on the Normandy in order to stop the Reapers. If he takes Shepard out now he will have wasted all of that effort and money and would still be at the mercy of the Reapers. After Shepard takes out the Reapers, that is another story.



TIM could kill Shepard or ruin his reputation and get even then and not have to worry about being Reaper fodder. If I were Shepard, I would hunt down and kill TIM and then go after the Shadow Broker preemptively. Both are enemies and can't be trusted not to scheme.

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I think there will be a confrontation but only when you go after him to take cereberus down for the paragon route. I don't think he'll be after you, no matter how pissed off you made him.

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I can see TIM not helping Shepard but not actively trying to assasinate him. TIM knows the value of Shepard to humanity and the galaxy. He may disagree with how Shepard is doing things but he also knows that Shepard is the only hope there is. Regardless of your Shepards decisions (whether it be a Paragon Champion or Renegade Anti-hero) TIM knows Shepards value... plain and simple.

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I dont think that he is that stupid to try and kill the only man that can stop the reapers, or is he, i dont know, it could be an intreasing problem, i just hope he doesnt try and use Miranda's sister against her, other wise i'll be pissed, because Miranda has my Shep's heart.

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Shepard could, however, find himself target of a plea for help from Cerberus as soon as their next "mad scientist" project explodes in their face. On grounds of "Don't do it for us. Just save the innocent people that will get killed otherwise, because we've run out of other options."

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Well looking at the synopsis for next book, TIM is someone who doesn't take being ****ed over very well.

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TIM is mean, but he aint stupid. He wont try anything till after Shepard succeeds in stopping the Reapers. So The only way for him to become a problem is if the writers wana railroad the story again to include him.

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TIM won't kill Shep.



He'll just threaten to kill everyone she knows till she comes back to Cerby. ^_^

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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

 So, lets say that the illusive man is stupid enough to

While we're at it, I make the motion that we say that Anderson is a tyrant, the Rachni Queen is going to betray you, and that the Turian councilor is actually the President of the Shepard Fan Club. I mean, they're all about as in character as the OP.

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Fail thread is fail. TIM isn't an idiot, he spend trillions of credits getting Shepard back and then he kills him?

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Ya that's not going to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if Cerberus played a somewhat minor role in the next game. Or came out of the shadows or so to speak. But trying to assassinate Shepard is asking to be hunted down and killed. Especially with Miranda on Shepard's team...ya...fail.

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Bluebruiser wrote...

Ya that's not going to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if Cerberus played a somewhat minor role in the next game. Or came out of the shadows or so to speak. But trying to assassinate Shepard is asking to be hunted down and killed. Especially with Miranda on Shepard's team...ya...fail.


Wouldn't that make Cerberus more likely to attack? TIM doesn't like his agents going rogue.

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TIM also doesn't like risking the survival of humanity. Revenge is a dish best served when convenient, not to the detriment of your other goals.

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What is TIM going to do? Send agents after Shepard and a team of the most talented and deadly people in the galaxy. He's already sunk most of his resources into Shepard and Normandy SR2 plus once you free EDI you have access to most Cerberus files plus the loyalty of Miranda. He is at a distinct disadvantage.



Plus as has been said, it would be against his stated goal of ensuring the survival and success of humanity. The problem with cerberus is that they think that the success and survival of humanity goes hand in hand with its dominance whereas integrating into the galactic community is far more likely to yield positive results and reduce the chances of major wars with say the Turians.

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Harbinger will save shepard, Only he gets to kill him. "Know this cerebrus, Shepard belongs to me."

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assuming controle of this orginization!

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Klimy wrote...

Im replaying ME2 3d time, and still can't brush off a thought that he made a some sort of a deal with Collectors to give them Shep. Its just too many "Opps, I forgot to tell you that it was an ambush", but it's just me as a spectre thinking.
If what you say will be true (**better to discuss this than most of old crap we talked here so many times) I think he will do it as usual:
give them some tip about a mission and will forget to mention that its an ambush or no way to win (yeah, right). So that if it will go not as he planed, he will just go like: "Ops, I didn't know that..." and look like a nice guy.

I don't trust him, and if he will show up in ME3 again, I will not mind that Im pure paragon and use renegade interrupt to shovel a gun in his *pick a place of your liking* and unload a full clip.


I want to kill him as well, Ever since the world found out about him. Depends how he will be in mass effect 3. Hell only he was doing something about the reaper threat.

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smecky-kitteh wrote...

assuming controle of this orginization!


"What the hell, Harbinger?" "Im only doing this because i want your genes"