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[SLPr0]

The American Apollo 11 through 17 Moon Landings?

I always found it somewhat odd that you find CCP Luna's remains on the moon (the very first probe to land on the moon...actually named Lunik)...but there isn't, somewhere in that square mile a replica of the Apollo 11 lander's chassis and what not.

I mean you might say...oh well its just a square mile of terrain they can't put everything up there...but they were conscientious enough to ensure that the first probe to reach the moon had its remains as a local anomoly, but not the remains of the Apollo 11 landing site.

Course there are some valid scientific heresies that state getting humans to the moon in 1969, due to the radiation levels of the Van Allen belts being effectively high enough to microwave human astronauts in a vehicle traveling to the moon, would have been impossible with the technologies and limited understanding we had of the Van Allen belts at the time.

Course we've got astronauts that punch people out for questioning the landing as well...so..who knows on that score.

Just one of those odd things about ME thats always stuck in the back of my head, CCP Lunik is there, the landing chassis for Apollo 11 is not.

So whats up BioWare, are you saying something here?

[caradoc2000]

For starters, Luna 23 landed in the middle of Mare Crisium which is nowhere near where Apollo 11 (or any other Apollo) landed.



The first lunar landing was by Luna 2 (1959), the one you see in ME is the Luna 23 (1974).

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Simple answer is that they were too lazy to model the lunar lander just like they were too lazy to actually design different interiors for side quests.

[MOTpoetryION]

anyone find it strange that there are moons around other planets but in our local system in ME2 there is no moon at all

[Gaddmeister]

MOTpoetryION wrote...

anyone find it strange that there are moons around other planets but in our local system in ME2 there is no moon at all

Well, it's just a simplified map of the solar system. The moons just aren't shown, because they aren't that important.

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Gaddmeister wrote...

MOTpoetryION wrote...

anyone find it strange that there are moons around other planets but in our local system in ME2 there is no moon at all

Well, it's just a simplified map of the solar system. The moons just aren't shown, because they aren't that important.

Well the way I figure is that they only show the moons if the actually have a mission on them. 

[Gaddmeister]

Yes, that's what I meant with "important". Perhaps I should have made that clear. But whatever, I agree with you.

[MOTpoetryION]

i could swear i came across a moon for a planet that diddnt have an n7 on it huh i could be wrong it has happend before . ok thanks all

[SLPr0]

caradoc2000 wrote...

For starters, Luna 23 landed in the middle of Mare Crisium which is nowhere near where Apollo 11 (or any other Apollo) landed.

The first lunar landing was by Luna 2 (1959), the one you see in ME is the Luna 23 (1974).

Luna 23 was a remote rover if I remember correctly, I may be wrong but I think 23 was one of 7 remote rovers sent to the moon by the Soviet Union, Luna 16 I think being the one that successfully brought back about 40 grams of lunar soil.

CCP Luna is quite obviously a probe model, the early Lunik/Luna launches were basic radio probes designed to do nothing but hit the moon.

Regardless I realize the mission areas for the Apollo and Luna missions weren't ever in the same area (one of the Luna rovers did photograph a US landing site from what I understand, information that was recently declassified released the photos).

But here we are in the greatest space epic of the modern age of story telling, they can bend the rules a bit in regards to my ship needing fuel for interstellar travel but not for intra-solar travel, they can fit a couple significant human landmarks onto Luna in ME for the purposes of giving a nod to what has us looking so far out into the stars in our dreams.

I'd also like to have been able to have visited the Prothean ruins at the south pole of Mars, just as a point of ME related history, to have given some kind of skin to the idea of the place that launched humanity beyond the boundries of our solar system would have been nice.

Some things never really get the definition they need in the ME Saga thus far. Such as the way the Batarians are represented (the atypical hated minority of the universe) when while greatly degraded as a species, the Batarian species still has many rich and affluent worlds within their own space....the representation as the atypical "space terrorist/gun for hire" is pretty shallow, and there are no Batarian worlds that really figure in as visitable areas within the ME story.

Its like Arcturus Station....we get all our orders from there but never set foot on it due to its indirect application to the linear story.

Oh well I'm mixing up story critiques with my feelings that they've bent the rules plenty already, nothing wrong with a little further bend to accomodate an Apollo landing site somewhere in the square mile of the N7 Luna mission in ME.

If there was a tool set, I'd definitely add it. Course there is a toolset, but ME was made with an internalized version of UED so its not exactly a case of just whipping out UED3.0 and adding new meshes and textures to utx packs.

Modifié par SLPr0, 22 avril 2010 - 03:49 .

[Pacifien]

SLPr0 wrote...
Some things never really get the definition they need in the ME Saga thus far. Such as the way the Batarians are represented (the atypical hated minority of the universe) when while greatly degraded as a species, the Batarian species still has many rich and affluent worlds within their own space....the representation as the atypical "space terrorist/gun for hire" is pretty shallow, and there are no Batarian worlds that really figure in as visitable areas within the ME story.

Unfortunately, the developers are limited to what will most directly affect the story. If Batarians were a major focus, we'd probably see more dimension to their character. The closest we do get is in the second game where Archangel makes a comment about a Batarian in his group.

Oh wait, plus there's a conversation also in the second game between two Asari, one of which had a Batarian father. Indirect references, but it's something.

But what I really want to know is why the Luna 23 craft had state-of-the-art tungsten rounds in it.

[SLPr0]

Pacifien wrote...

But what I really want to know is why the Luna 23 craft had state-of-the-art tungsten rounds in it.

Exactly....we've already bent the rules here. Whats a little more bend in the name of background color?

[Zaxares]

Pacifien wrote...

But what I really want to know is why the Luna 23 craft had state-of-the-art tungsten rounds in it.

Maybe some Alliance marines on training there got bored and took pot shots at the Luna 23 module with their state of the art tungsten ammo?

[Bogsnot1]

Over half a million people were involved in the Apollo projects. What are the chances that the US govt (and its allies) could bribe and/or threaten them all into silence?

If the US didnt land on the moon, why didnt the Ruskies jump up and down with telemetric data in hands shouting all about how the US never made it?



this should be done to every Apollo hoaxer. Might knock some sense into them

[Mr. Sprinkles101]

A mile would go off the map from where its located

[Walrusninja]

It's a game dude not a science fair

[Comrade7]

It's all fake, the americans never landed on the moon

[Shinji Ex]

Yea kind of a let down there's no Apollo 11 site

I must be loosing it I could of swore on some game you encounter the famous site on the moon
maybe I'm thinking of a movie
I don't know but thought it was like on my first playthrough of Mass Effect 1 years ago

Modifié par Shinji Ex, 02 mars 2012 - 09:57 .