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[Tested-Faythe]

BeresaadSoldier wrote...

Uhm ... 1 thing: fraps or never happened.

wtf is fraps??

[Darth_Trethon]

Frankly I like upgrading everything and doing all the loyalty quests and not losing a single team mate and actually enjoying the most epic story since KotOR but if you'd rather rush to your death in 3.5 seconds go right ahead...the only person missing out is you. I earned my Insanity achievement by doing every last thing there was to do in the game including all side quests minor and major.

[badkenbad]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Frankly I like upgrading everything and doing all the loyalty quests and not losing a single team mate and actually enjoying the most epic story since KotOR but if you'd rather rush to your death in 3.5 seconds go right ahead...the only person missing out is you. I earned my Insanity achievement by doing every last thing there was to do in the game including all side quests minor and major.

Wow, the air must be really thin up there on your high horse. Lack of oxygen to your brain is making you hallucinate, see things in this thread that don't exist, and make questionable statements.

Nobody said speed running is the only way to play the game. In fact, in an earlier post, I pointed out that I've played the game through, in its entirety, five times. I've played full paragon, I've played full renegade, I've played default choices right up the middle. I've made a significant effort to see every branch of dialogue in the game, roleplaying different characters in different classes with different squadmates. I've completed every achievement multiple times over. Not only that, I'm doing yet another full playthrough, and documenting it on YouTube with running commentary.

I'm also trying out some speed runs, because they're fun and challenging, especially on Insanity difficulty. I also think it will be fun to see how quickly the entire game can be completed.

Frankly, I like playing every class, and following every dialogue tree. I also like to experience combat on Insanity difficulty with the added challenge of pushing myself to complete the missions as fast as I am able. If you'd rather only play through the game with a couple classes and not see what it's like to lose a character and miss out on half the romance options, and only fight through missions slowly, cautiously and risk-free... the only person missing out is you.

[badkenbad]

Tested-Faythe wrote...

BeresaadSoldier wrote...

Uhm ... 1 thing: fraps or never happened.

wtf is fraps??

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fraps

[exterminator_]

in the insanity speed run i lost kelly lol :S

[Darth_Trethon]

badkenbad wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Frankly I like upgrading everything and doing all the loyalty quests and not losing a single team mate and actually enjoying the most epic story since KotOR but if you'd rather rush to your death in 3.5 seconds go right ahead...the only person missing out is you. I earned my Insanity achievement by doing every last thing there was to do in the game including all side quests minor and major.

Wow, the air must be really thin up there on your high horse. Lack of oxygen to your brain is making you hallucinate, see things in this thread that don't exist, and make questionable statements.

Nobody said speed running is the only way to play the game. In fact, in an earlier post, I pointed out that I've played the game through, in its entirety, five times. I've played full paragon, I've played full renegade, I've played default choices right up the middle. I've made a significant effort to see every branch of dialogue in the game, roleplaying different characters in different classes with different squadmates. I've completed every achievement multiple times over. Not only that, I'm doing yet another full playthrough, and documenting it on YouTube with running commentary.

I'm also trying out some speed runs, because they're fun and challenging, especially on Insanity difficulty. I also think it will be fun to see how quickly the entire game can be completed.

Frankly, I like playing every class, and following every dialogue tree. I also like to experience combat on Insanity difficulty with the added challenge of pushing myself to complete the missions as fast as I am able. If you'd rather only play through the game with a couple classes and not see what it's like to lose a character and miss out on half the romance options, and only fight through missions slowly, cautiously and risk-free... the only person missing out is you.

Awfully defensive aren't you?

FYI....I've played ME1 30+ times and played ME2 over 10 times now and still playing. I've no desire of rushing anything at all. So please take your "played it 5 times" argument elsewhere. I simply posted my view of this. Better to not play at all than to rush it.

[cruc1al]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

badkenbad wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Frankly I like upgrading everything and doing all the loyalty quests and not losing a single team mate and actually enjoying the most epic story since KotOR but if you'd rather rush to your death in 3.5 seconds go right ahead...the only person missing out is you. I earned my Insanity achievement by doing every last thing there was to do in the game including all side quests minor and major.

Wow, the air must be really thin up there on your high horse. Lack of oxygen to your brain is making you hallucinate, see things in this thread that don't exist, and make questionable statements.

Nobody said speed running is the only way to play the game. In fact, in an earlier post, I pointed out that I've played the game through, in its entirety, five times. I've played full paragon, I've played full renegade, I've played default choices right up the middle. I've made a significant effort to see every branch of dialogue in the game, roleplaying different characters in different classes with different squadmates. I've completed every achievement multiple times over. Not only that, I'm doing yet another full playthrough, and documenting it on YouTube with running commentary.

I'm also trying out some speed runs, because they're fun and challenging, especially on Insanity difficulty. I also think it will be fun to see how quickly the entire game can be completed.

Frankly, I like playing every class, and following every dialogue tree. I also like to experience combat on Insanity difficulty with the added challenge of pushing myself to complete the missions as fast as I am able. If you'd rather only play through the game with a couple classes and not see what it's like to lose a character and miss out on half the romance options, and only fight through missions slowly, cautiously and risk-free... the only person missing out is you.

Awfully defensive aren't you?

FYI....I've played ME1 30+ times and played ME2 over 10 times now and still playing. I've no desire of rushing anything at all. So please take your "played it 5 times" argument elsewhere. I simply posted my view of this. Better to not play at all than to rush it.

Why do you want to let everyone know that you're not interested in speedruns? If you're not, then you're in the wrong thread mate

[BeresaadSoldier]

@vhatever: Fraps was designed to record in game footage without loss of quality. For that you need 2 things: a good cpu and a good hard drive. Multi-threaded CPUs naturally have an advantage here, as do hard drives with consistently high write speeds. RAID0 set up with a separate hard drive for windows/applications is ideal for fraps. Unfortunately I'm yet to come across an in-game video recorder which is better than fraps. You can try playclaw or WeGame, but I don't know if you'll have better results.



And for the record I still think killing everyone on the way is more fun and requires more skill than just pressing the sprint button and occasionally taking cover.

[vhatever]

BeresaadSoldier wrote...


And for the record I still think killing everyone on the way is more fun and requires more skill than just pressing the sprint button and occasionally taking cover.

I think it's my hardrive that's bottlenecking the whole process. Oh wells.

And for the record, you are nuts.

It not only takes more skill to do a speed run(I can play the entire game with a sentinel, soldier, or infil and essentially never die), it takes far more intelligence, too. Any chimp can sit there all day safe behind cover or what have you. You might think some look easy, fair enough, but you didn't think of them.

Let's see you finish grunt's mission in under  6 mins 30 seconds.

Let us all know how many times you die trying to complete the feat, even with you being able to copy all my strats to try it.

Modifié par vhatever, 25 avril 2010 - 07:01 .

[TJSolo]

Speedruns differ depending on the rules allowed. Since this is only your run then you are free to do as you please.

Since you are posting it you should be clear that you are; skipping fights and glitching spawn points.

[BeresaadSoldier]

vhatever wrote...

BeresaadSoldier wrote...


And for the record I still think killing everyone on the way is more fun and requires more skill than just pressing the sprint button and occasionally taking cover.

I think it's my hardrive that's bottlenecking the whole process. Oh wells.

And for the record, you are nuts.

It not only takes more skill to do a speed run(I can play the entire game with a sentinel, soldier, or infil and essentially never die), it takes far more intelligence, too. Any chimp can sit there all day safe behind cover or what have you. You might think some look easy, fair enough, but you didn't think of them.

Let's see you finish grunt's mission in under  6 mins 30 seconds.

Let us all know how many times you die trying to complete the feat, even with you being able to copy all my strats to try it.

Right. Sorry, master! I bow before your amazing skills of pressing the sprint button and using cover!

Didn't you say you completed Kasumi's loyalty mission in 7 and a half minutes? You use heavy weapons, right? Here I kill everyone and complete it in 9 minutes without heavy weapons. Take off some 30 seconds or so for cutscenes which I've included. Let's see you do that, mister, and then I might consider you have some skill with a vanguard.

P.S. I might take you up on your challenge if it allows for aggressive gameplay. Considering I've never even seen you use medigel, your time will be a piece of cake to beat.

[badkenbad]

Speed running has always been about the fastest time no matter what. Anything goes. Glitching, short cuts, exploiting bugs... the ONLY thing that matters in a speed run is speed. Anyone is free to play the game however they like, but in speed running, the time is the bottom line.

I think I'd agree that killing everything and doing it fast is more of a challenge. Call that a "speed clear" if you will. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to argue about what takes more skill though. Mass Effect 2 isn't a competitive game of skill with objective measures of our abilities. If there were built in combat timers and kill counters and statistics on hit/miss ratios and head shots, then we could start talking about skill.

That Stolen Memory combat video was impressive and a lot of fun to watch. What were you doing with the shoot/melee/reload all the time? It almost looked like a macro, though it's probably not, since Shepard didn't do all three on every shot.

Modifié par badkenbad, 25 avril 2010 - 08:11 .

[cruc1al]

Hey BeresaadSoldier, could you quickly walk me through on how to use different cores for FRAPS and ME2? I have a quad core i7 and I want to record 1080p with in-game fps 30+ but usually it falls under 30. Or post a useful link? Also, does setting video fps in FRAPS to 30 also limit in-game FPS to 30?

[Darth_Trethon]

badkenbad wrote...

Speed running has always been about the fastest time no matter what. Anything goes. Glitching, short cuts, exploiting bugs... the ONLY thing that matters in a speed run is speed. Anyone is free to play the game however they like, but in speed running, the time is the bottom line.

I think I'd agree that killing everything and doing it fast is more of a challenge. Call that a "speed clear" if you will. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to argue about what takes more skill though. Mass Effect 2 isn't a competitive game of skill with objective measures of our abilities. If there were built in combat timers and kill counters and statistics on hit/miss ratios and head shots, then we could start talking about skill.

That Stolen Memory combat video was impressive and a lot of fun to watch. What were you doing with the shoot/melee/reload all the time? It almost looked like a macro, though it's probably not, since Shepard didn't do all three on every shot.

Oh well in that case I can use the save editor to get the entire party....including loyalties and all and I can unlock the suicide mission within 5 minutes after firsst reaching the SR2. So I can beat ME2 in under an hour.....and keep everyone alive. I can easily beat all your times.

Obviously there is no point to it at all. Why bother rushing through? To show my epeen is bigger? To feel like I'm the best at something? There is no real purpose to it. I miss on the story, the gameplay and miss on most upgrades.

[cruc1al]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

badkenbad wrote...

Speed running has always been about the fastest time no matter what. Anything goes. Glitching, short cuts, exploiting bugs... the ONLY thing that matters in a speed run is speed. Anyone is free to play the game however they like, but in speed running, the time is the bottom line.

I think I'd agree that killing everything and doing it fast is more of a challenge. Call that a "speed clear" if you will. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to argue about what takes more skill though. Mass Effect 2 isn't a competitive game of skill with objective measures of our abilities. If there were built in combat timers and kill counters and statistics on hit/miss ratios and head shots, then we could start talking about skill.

That Stolen Memory combat video was impressive and a lot of fun to watch. What were you doing with the shoot/melee/reload all the time? It almost looked like a macro, though it's probably not, since Shepard didn't do all three on every shot.

Oh well in that case I can use the save editor to get the entire party....including loyalties and all and I can unlock the suicide mission within 5 minutes after firsst reaching the SR2. So I can beat ME2 in under an hour.....and keep everyone alive. I can easily beat all your times.

Obviously there is no point to it at all. Why bother rushing through? To show my epeen is bigger? To feel like I'm the best at something? There is no real purpose to it. I miss on the story, the gameplay and miss on most upgrades.

Because it's fun. Not to you obviously, so don't pick fights over matters of taste. If you want to improve the experience of those who do like to do speedruns, then why not be a bit more constructive with your criticism of their methods, rather than accuse them of doing something for which you personally see no point but for which the others obviously do because otherwise they wouldn't do it?

Modifié par cruc1al, 25 avril 2010 - 08:36 .

[BeresaadSoldier]

cruc1al wrote...

Hey BeresaadSoldier, could you quickly walk me through on how to use different cores for FRAPS and ME2? I have a quad core i7 and I want to record 1080p with in-game fps 30+ but usually it falls under 30. Or post a useful link? Also, does setting video fps in FRAPS to 30 also limit in-game FPS to 30?

Well, first of all, what is your normal frame rate when playing the game? Yes, if you set the FRAPS frame rate to 30, it will cap it at 30 even if your PC is able to run it at 200 fps. The best way to ensure you get maximum frames while running FRAPS is to have an additional hard drive that will hold all your recorded footage.

Example: If you have installed Windows, ME2 and Fraps on C: when you record, tell Fraps to save to D: When you have a single hard drive load all textures for the game, run windows and write 3GB per minute simultaneously, it's too much. If you have an additional hard drive you can also move over your page file, so you don't get random reads/writes on your hard drive if you're running low on RAM.

Other than that, for an i7 I've noticed that ME2 uses threads 0,2,4,5,6 which leaves threads 1, 3 and 7 free for fraps. If you set the affinity of Fraps to those threads, you'll take some load off the CPU trying to simultaneously process the game and transfer data for the HDD to write. 

If you're using an editing program to edit and spice up your videos, it's best to turn off all anti-aliasing and film grain while recording. It will speed up your game, and then you can later add some blurr/film grain in the editing software.

That's about it. If you want to know anything else, ask and I'll do my best to answer.

[vhatever]

Only upgrades I "miss" are ones I don't plan on using. I don't think i'll "miss" them much, since I'd never waste the resources on them to begin with.

Oh, and I'm really not impressed with running around owning things with a level 20 character, especially one abusing the reload bug. Your ability to walk up into people is pretty impreessive.

Modifié par vhatever, 25 avril 2010 - 09:22 .

[BeresaadSoldier]

vhatever wrote...
I'm really not impressed with running around owning things with a level 20 character, especially one abusing the reload bug. Your ability to walk up into poeple is pretty impreessive.

Oh noes, you didn't like my video, vhatever shall I do now  No worries, I'll get over it, somehow

I'd say your ability to run away from people is pretty impressive  I'm not here to bash your thread or your playstyle, I just offered my perspective on how you've decided to do it. You could technically make a poll on what requires more skill - killing everyone in a level for speed, or running through a level as fast as possible. I'm pretty sure everyone will agree it's the former. But hey, as long as you're having fun it's cool. And lol @ abusing the reload bug. You're exploiting the AI and the spawn points too, but nobody's said anything about it, yes? Here, I'll say it: I'm unimpressed.

[vhatever]

So again, go make a new vanguard, and go run over to grunt's mission, then complete it under 6 and half minutes.



All the characters are retardedly overpowered by the time they hit level 20. Tons of upgrades for everything.



All you do in that whole video is abuse the reload bug, abuse mech pathing. Not a single novel strategy in the entire thing. I could prgram a bot to do what you did.

[cruc1al]

Guys this is not a dick enhancement program. No one needs to prove anything to anyone.

[vhatever]

cruc1al wrote...

Guys this is not a dick enhancement program. No one needs to prove anything to anyone.

Keep in mind this guy came into the thread insinuating I couldn;t do things I was claiming, then when he is shown it can be done, he trash talks it.

Of course he's upset. He doesn't even know what a "speedrun" is, and they have been around for longer than he's probably been alive.

I'm not interested in soothing the egos of malcontents and momma's boys. I'm more interested in him being humbled by the expiernec ehtna proving anything.

I wonder why it is he only does videos of high level, overpowered chaarcters?

I wonder why it is that it's silly to minmize the amount of enemies I have to kill in order to complete a mission, yet when he he rushes as fast as he can to chase down a certain helicopter, trying to bring it down as fast as possible so he doesn't have to keep fighting the weaker enemeis, then that's a suddenly no longer silly.

[cruc1al]

vhatever wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

Guys this is not a dick enhancement program. No one needs to prove anything to anyone.

Keep in mind this guy came into the thread insinuating I couldn;t do things I was claiming, then when he is shown it can be done, he trash talks it.

Uh, no. You keep in mind that his idea of a speedrun, which he assumed you to agree with (an unfounded assumption), was that you kill everyone. It wasn't unreasonable to question your claims in that context. And he didn't say you couldn't do it, he asked for video evidence. There's a clear difference.

Furthermore, what his "trash talking" boils down to is simply not agreeing with your concept of what kind of speedrun is fun. But he has said that to each his own.

Of course he's upset. He doesn't even know what a "speedrun" is, and they have been around for longer than he's probably been alive.

I didn't sense he was upset. He may not have known the term speedrun as you and allegedly the majority understand it, that doesn't mean he should be punished for it. You could've been explained to him in a friendly manner that speedrun is an established term rather than accuse him of ignorance.

vhatever wrote...
I wonder why it is he only does videos of high level, overpowered chaarcters?

What the hell do you care? You like doing speedruns, he likes playing on a level 20 character shooting stuff in the face. What's fun to you isn't necessarily fun to him and vice versa. As I said, it's not a constest to see whose dick is biggest.

Modifié par cruc1al, 25 avril 2010 - 10:24 .

[Darth_Trethon]

cruc1al wrote...

Guys this is not a dick enhancement program. No one needs to prove anything to anyone.

Hehehe......yet there are all these people who feel like theirs just grew 20 feet. Really funny stuff.

[vhatever]

cruc1al wrote...


What the hell do you care? You like doing speedruns, he likes playing on a level 20 character shooting stuff in the face. What's fun to you isn't necessarily fun to him and vice versa. As I said, it's not a constest to see whose dick is biggest.

Cause he said killing everything "takes more skill".  If he wanted to show his kill, he'd do kasumi's mission at level 3. Everyone knows once you get high level the game becomes retardedly easy.