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[HeyBlade789]

Yes if its done with taste, and nothing over the top, but its not going to happen

[TheFeelGoods3]

im not sure if even bioware knows what their doing. Yes its a rated M game, ESRB forces people who work for video game retailers like myself to sell it only to people older than 17. Yet with watered down sex scenes  i think their giving us mixed messages. For example, Why would they market so strongly for adults and still tone the game down so that they can plan to sell it to adults? I mean come on, EA decided to go strong after the adult gaming community with ME 2 just look at the commercials they were running with jack. If no one remembers them:



jack cussing up a storm even at one point telling the camera F**k you! Yet this game is aimed towards kids?

[cruc1al]

slimgrin wrote...

TheFeelGoods3 wrote...

im not sure if even bioware knows what their doing. Yes its a rated M game, ESRB forces people who work for video game retailers like myself to sell it only to people older than 17. Yet with watered down sex scenes  i think their giving us mixed messages. For example, Why would they market so strongly for adults and still tone the game down so that they can plan to sell it to adults? I mean come on, EA decided to go strong after the adult gaming community with ME 2 just look at the commercials they were running with jack. If no one remembers them:



jack cussing up a storm even at one point telling the camera F**k you! Yet this game is aimed towards kids?

Lol! good point. But swearing and violence are less dangerous than nipples.

So why is it M-rated?

Modifié par cruc1al, 24 avril 2010 - 02:28 .

[Blk_Mage_Ctype]

Okay, first of all the Wii Mistress is in ME3, Shep had Legion & Tali build a body for EDI.

All joking aside, here's the deal...
I would definitely like a larger focus on Romance in ME3. The Tali & Jack love scenes were a step in the right direction. Furthermore, while I wouldn't mind nudity in ME3, I still highly doubt that Bioware will go that route after Fox News, and how they censored the Statue of David in ME2. Not only that, but I still fail to see how nudity makes a love scene more romantic. Jack's scene was very romantic, yet there was no sex involved at all. Romance is not determined by nudity or sex, but atmosphere. The way the characters look at each other, the words they say to each other, the background music, and the location.

The closest to the kind of love scene people here are describing in ME2 was Miranda... And let's face it, Miranda's love scene wasn't romantic at all. They did it in the freaking Engine Room, no romantic lines are exchanged, no look of adoration in their eyes, no romantic music, just a quick, emotionless sex scene that would've been more at home in a porno that a romantic love scene.

Nudity doesn't make a love scene more romantic, in fact, it has a better chance of cheapening it than strengthening it. The big problem is that if you show too much skin, it'll come off as just cheap Fan Service. Yet show too little skin and it comes off as juvenile or pointless.
The best option is to simply leave it out, then you don't run the risk of it appearing like Fan Service or juvenile.

Love scenes don't need nudity to be romantic, Tali & Jack's love scenes show that perfectly.

slimgrin wrote...

Lol! good point. But swearing and violence are less dangerous than nipples.

True. As we all know, allowing a child to see graphic violence like that of Saving Private Ryan or Robocop, it totally okay and have no negative effect on the child, but breasts, (you know, those things they were suckling just afew years back that they've already been exposed to?) those are bad and would likely destroy the minds of our children.

(Just so you know, that last part was sarcasm...)

Modifié par Blk_Mage_Ctype, 24 avril 2010 - 02:45 .

[Blk_Mage_Ctype]

Don't be absurd, of course they disrobe for sex, it just happens off camera, which I feel is appropriate.

Hate to sound like a prude, but when you get right down to it, sex should be private, (Would you like to be filmed while on the job?) and having it so you only get to see what's necessary, then leave the rest to the viewers imagination is far more tasteful and romantic than showing Shep's naked ass bobbing up and down.

We all know what sex looks like, right? So why do we have to see it happen to know it happened?

Modifié par Blk_Mage_Ctype, 24 avril 2010 - 03:07 .

[exterminator_]

cruc1al wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

TheFeelGoods3 wrote...

im not sure if even bioware knows what their doing. Yes its a rated M game, ESRB forces people who work for video game retailers like myself to sell it only to people older than 17. Yet with watered down sex scenes  i think their giving us mixed messages. For example, Why would they market so strongly for adults and still tone the game down so that they can plan to sell it to adults? I mean come on, EA decided to go strong after the adult gaming community with ME 2 just look at the commercials they were running with jack. If no one remembers them:



jack cussing up a storm even at one point telling the camera F**k you! Yet this game is aimed towards kids?

Lol! good point. But swearing and violence are less dangerous than nipples.

So why is it M-rated?

Yes this is stupid lol

This PARTICULARLY game is for MATURE PLAYERS
cause if a kid plays that ...

The next time that kid will go and make sex with another one HAHAHA

So there is no problem to put nude content and  more sex scenes in ME

Btw sometimes i want to meet this "supervisor" guy and give him my "regards" ...

[exterminator_]

slimgrin wrote...

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...

Don't be absurd, of course they disrobe for sex, it just happens off camera, which I feel is appropriate.

Hate to sound like a prude, but when you get right down to it, sex should be private, (Would you like to be filmed while on the job?) and having it so you only get to see what's necessary, then leave the rest to the viewers imagination is far more tasteful and romantic than showing Shep's naked ass bobbing up and down.

We all know what sex looks like, right? So why do we have to see it happen to know it happened?

I admire the human form, thats why.  And no one's asking to see Shepards naked ass bobbing up and down. Again, if you think that the Liara scene was well done in ME1, then what's the problem in doing something like that again? But if you found that scene offensive...then we aint gonna agree on this topic.

Furthermore, I don't agree that since sex is private, there should be no nudity.

The game must have nudity !!! simple

[Blk_Mage_Ctype]

slimgrin wrote...

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...

Don't be absurd, of course they disrobe for sex, it just happens off camera, which I feel is appropriate.

Hate to sound like a prude, but when you get right down to it, sex should be private, (Would you like to be filmed while on the job?) and having it so you only get to see what's necessary, then leave the rest to the viewers imagination is far more tasteful and romantic than showing Shep's naked ass bobbing up and down.

We all know what sex looks like, right? So why do we have to see it happen to know it happened?

I admire the human form, thats why.  And no one's asking to see Shepards naked ass bobbing up and down. Again, if you think that the Liara scene was well done in ME1, then what's the problem in doing something like that again? But if you found that scene offensive...then we aint gonna agree on this topic.

Furthermore, I don't agree that since sex is private, there should be no nudity.

Everyone "admires the human form" in their own way, the question is if you're truly admiring it for is aesthetic beauty, or if you just wanna see it because it turns you on.
The point is that you don't have to see Tali undress to know that it happened, nor do you need to see Shep's ass bobbing up and down to know that him and Tali were intimate.
So tell me why you need to see the character undress? Do you lack the imagination to picture it? Trust me, whether Bioware puts it on screen or not, it's there. 

I wouldn't mind if the sex scenes had nudity or not, but by the looks of things there won't be any nudity in ME3, so please, when ME3's ESRB Rating appears, and Nudity is not listed in the content discriptions, don't start spamming topics about how Bioware fails.
Yes, the game is rated M for Mature, and yes, if the ESRB is going to give you an M Rating, then you might as well get your money's worth out of the rating and not worry too much about what the content is like because the Target Audience is in that age group to begin with.
However, when you've got prudes like Fox News waiting in the wings to do a story that's going to hurt your game's sales, then by all means exclude the nudity, since it really doesn't add anything important to a love scene. And if your fans are too angry over lack of boobies to understand why you removed them and feel that they're that crucial to a game's success, then perhaps said fans are a bit too young to be playing an M Rated game anyway...

Including nudity wouldn't make ME3 any more mature than it already is, and if you think differently, then I feel sorry for you.

Now could someone here actually make an argument for why nudity would benefit ME3 besides a euphemism for "cuz i wunna c teh bewbi3z <3" or some bogus comment about how a game isn't mature unless it has nudity?

No offense, man... But this is just getting ridiculous.

[Blk_Mage_Ctype]

I apologize, I took you for the kind of person that just wouldn't drop it even if Bioware said no. (Like the Same-Sex Romance crowd)



I just really don't see how nudity helps the love scenes, and I think it's understandable why Bioware would shy away from including nudity in ME3.



It's really sad and pathetic that they're so afraid of one little news station that they'd actually go so far as to censor a work of art like the Statue of David, and even more so that they'd allow it to influence the content in their game.

However, from a shear business standpoint, I can understand their choice, and since nudity isn't really a crucial story telling element or otherwise a bit of content that serves a profound purpose in the game, I won't argue against it.



Frankly, I just find fighting for a lost cause depressing, and I'd hate to see everyone get all worked up trying to sway Bioware, only to end up ultimately disappointed, then proceed to make endless disruptive topics about how Bioware fails, doesn't listen, are scardy cats, etc.



Their are plenty of things I'd like to see in ME3 that likely won't be there, but I'm not going to get worked up about it, no game is perfect, and I'll enjoy it for whatever it turns out to be.



Sorry for the misunderstanding...

[Tirigon]

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...


Everyone "admires the human form" in their own way, the question is if you're truly admiring it for is aesthetic beauty, or if you just wanna see it because it turns you on.

So even if that´s the case, what´s wrong with that?

I don´t know about you, but I play PC games to be entertained. If a little sex is entertaining it should be in.

However, when you've got prudes like Fox News waiting in the wings to do a story that's going to hurt your game's sales, then by all means exclude the nudity, since it really doesn't add anything important to a love scene.

WRONG. If there are asses like Fox News then your reason why there should be sex and nudity is RIGHT THERE.

Hell, if I was chief at BioWare I´d make a scene were you see a penis as big as the screen without any reason just for them. Maybe followed by a kind FUKK YOU!

[Tirigon]

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...

Frankly, I just find fighting for a lost cause depressing, and I'd hate to see everyone get all worked up trying to sway Bioware, only to end up ultimately disappointed, then proceed to make endless disruptive topics about how Bioware

Maybe they would listen if there weren´t people like you agreeing with everything they do. Think about that.

[Blk_Mage_Ctype]

If they're aiming at a younger audience, then why isn't Mass Effect 2 a T Rated game?

[Ryzaki]

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...

If they're aiming at a younger audience, then why isn't Mass Effect 2 a T Rated game?

The same reason GTA and Halo isn't.

[cruc1al]

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...

If they're aiming at a younger audience, then why isn't Mass Effect 2 a T Rated game?

Maybe they're focusing on younger audience than for ME1, but still not young enough to not keep it M rated.

[exterminator_]

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...

I apologize, I took you for the kind of person that just wouldn't drop it even if Bioware said no. (Like the Same-Sex Romance crowd)

I just really don't see how nudity helps the love scenes, and I think it's understandable why Bioware would shy away from including nudity in ME3.

It's really sad and pathetic that they're so afraid of one little news station that they'd actually go so far as to censor a work of art like the Statue of David, and even more so that they'd allow it to influence the content in their game.
However, from a shear business standpoint, I can understand their choice, and since nudity isn't really a crucial story telling element or otherwise a bit of content that serves a profound purpose in the game, I won't argue against it.

Frankly, I just find fighting for a lost cause depressing, and I'd hate to see everyone get all worked up trying to sway Bioware, only to end up ultimately disappointed, then proceed to make endless disruptive topics about how Bioware fails, doesn't listen, are scardy cats, etc.

Their are plenty of things I'd like to see in ME3 that likely won't be there, but I'm not going to get worked up about it, no game is perfect, and I'll enjoy it for whatever it turns out to be.

Sorry for the misunderstanding...

Guys nudity - sex and romantist

are part of real life so why a so nice and adventurus games like ME1 and ME2 not have them

All the time i see all  the annoying age marks in games and all that shiit

Cut that stupid crap already, cause you SCARE THE TRUE GAMERS

that want to play a real good game , with result the loss of profit and companies closed

Make games real - make them count - MAKE THE TRUE GAMERS GET INTERESTED

BY PLAYING THEM AND ENJOY AN INTERESTING EXPERIENCE

Thats my personal opinion - NOBODY CARES FOR THAT LAME AGE MARK

ALL INTERESTED IF THE GAME THAT THEY P A Y  DESERVES THE MONEY THEY HAVE PAID

So dont speak about nudity and shiiitt

Put nudity - violence - adventure and danger in a game of this style CAUSE IT NEED THIS

so noone make mods to see the content that missed

And cut that iddle chatter already - gets on my nerves !!!! :police:

[exterminator_]

cruc1al wrote...

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...

If they're aiming at a younger audience, then why isn't Mass Effect 2 a T Rated game?

Maybe they're focusing on younger audience than for ME1, but still not young enough to not keep it M rated.

WHAT A YOUNGER AUDIENCE ??? 

Mate think about what you just said ...!!!

This game is not FOR KIDS !!!! 

Its for ages 16 and UP !!! 

WEAK UP ALREADY :s

Dont remind me a young kid i saw the earlier day that played God of War 3

and saw the sex scene with aphrodite !!!!

Kids play only crash bandicoot  and such style games

games with a little violence AND NO SEX

So that is a matter of their noob parents whom cant control them !!!

[exterminator_]

Learn that games have 2 categories :



1) Mature category = means SEX - VIOLENCE AND BLOOD (ages 16 and up)



and



2) Kid category = adventure, NO VIOLENCE , NO SEX (ages 3 until 15)

[Blk_Mage_Ctype]

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