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[JnEricsonx]

I'm almost at 4th bar, I usually do his mission later, but I'm doing it earlier to have inferno grenade for Collector ship, so I never have a problem with having enough Paragon.  Anyone know?

[Ecael]

JnEricsonx wrote...

I'm almost at 4th bar, I usually do his mission later, but I'm doing it earlier to have inferno grenade for Collector ship, so I never have a problem with having enough Paragon.  Anyone know?

The Paragon/Renegade system is designed to vary depending on when you enter the location:

Ecael wrote...

Kim Stolz (BioWare) recently revealed the secret behind Paragon and Renegade in one of the technical support forums. The game basically keeps its own hidden bar of the maximum amount of Paragon or Renegade you can get every time you enter an area. It then takes a percentage of that hidden bar to calculate how much you need at that moment to pass the check. The more times you miss a possible place to get Paragon or Renegade, the more checks you eventually fail. The more checks you fail, the more you miss getting Paragon or Renegade. It's a snowball effect.

To simplify: The game keeps track of all of your missed opportunities in getting Paragon or Renegade in every single area. If you start falling behind, you will most likely never catch up. You HAVE to continuously act Paragon OR Renegade. This becomes much easier if you start out with a Paragon/Renegade import bonus from ME1, specialize in your class skill that gives +100% Paragon/Renegade instead of +70%, or wear Negotiation bonus armor (only in missions where you're not in casual attire).

In addition, the ship arguments have different percentages. Miranda/Jack is easier to resolve with Renegade and Tali/Legion is easier to resolve with Paragon. That import bonus provides a safety net in case you miss some opportunities. Doing the mission earlier can be slightly in your favor only because you haven't missed as many opportunities yet.

In short, New Game+ sucks. You start with no Paragon/Renegade whatsoever.

[Texaboose]

So, if I can get clarification, it's simply a percentage of paragon/renegade earned of total possible paragon/renegade. So you could do Zaeed's mission 1st - having gone full paragon/renegade in the prologue - and pass the checks?

[Ecael]

Texaboose wrote...

So, if I can get clarification, it's simply a percentage of paragon/renegade earned of total possible paragon/renegade. So you could do Zaeed's mission 1st - having gone full paragon/renegade in the prologue - and pass the checks?

Correct. That's why they had to set it up this way, otherwise people would be forced to do all the missions in a specific order just to pass all the checks.

[Texaboose]

Ecael wrote...

Texaboose wrote...

So, if I can get clarification, it's simply a percentage of paragon/renegade earned of total possible paragon/renegade. So you could do Zaeed's mission 1st - having gone full paragon/renegade in the prologue - and pass the checks?

Correct. That's why they had to set it up this way, otherwise people would be forced to do all the missions in a specific order just to pass all the checks.

Ha! Ironically I did all the missions in a certain order because I was under the logical impression of "more paragon/renegade" means passing the check (well, I made sure I did Jack's and Legion's loyaty missions last). In not forcing people to do all the missions in a certain order, their forcing people to make the same decisions though. I rather be forced to do a few missions in a certain order.

[Ecael]

Texaboose wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Texaboose wrote...

So, if I can get clarification, it's simply a percentage of paragon/renegade earned of total possible paragon/renegade. So you could do Zaeed's mission 1st - having gone full paragon/renegade in the prologue - and pass the checks?

Correct. That's why they had to set it up this way, otherwise people would be forced to do all the missions in a specific order just to pass all the checks.

Ha! Ironically I did all the missions in a certain order because I was under the logical impression of "more paragon/renegade" means passing the check (well, I made sure I did Jack's and Legion's loyaty missions last). In not forcing people to do all the missions in a certain order, their forcing people to make the same decisions though. I rather be forced to do a few missions in a certain order.

Well, if the checks were based on numbers instead of percentages, you'd be forced to do the missions in a same order as well as making the same decisions for them.

[Texaboose]

Ecael wrote...

Texaboose wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Texaboose wrote...

So, if I can get clarification, it's simply a percentage of paragon/renegade earned of total possible paragon/renegade. So you could do Zaeed's mission 1st - having gone full paragon/renegade in the prologue - and pass the checks?

Correct. That's why they had to set it up this way, otherwise people would be forced to do all the missions in a specific order just to pass all the checks.

Ha! Ironically I did all the missions in a certain order because I was under the logical impression of "more paragon/renegade" means passing the check (well, I made sure I did Jack's and Legion's loyaty missions last). In not forcing people to do all the missions in a certain order, their forcing people to make the same decisions though. I rather be forced to do a few missions in a certain order.

Well, if the checks were based on numbers instead of percentages, you'd be forced to do the missions in a same order as well as making the same decisions for them.

True.... stop out-thinking me

Paragon or Renegade though - I always shoot Conrad in the foot. It's too funny to pass up.

[Tlazolteotl]

Or you could just go renegade in Zaeed's mission.

Even though heavy weapon ammo is probably more useful to most of my characters than assault rifle damage, I seem to always go renegade here.

[Ecael]

Texaboose wrote...

Paragon or Renegade though - I always shoot Conrad in the foot. It's too funny to pass up.

Maybe your father was a Krogan?

[Texaboose]

Ecael wrote...

Texaboose wrote...

Paragon or Renegade though - I always shoot Conrad in the foot. It's too funny to pass up.

Maybe your father was a Krogan?

Hmmm... well I do enjoy beating people with their own spine....