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Kreidian

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This is just plain stupid now.

It's as if Bioware suddenly forgot all concept of difficulty levels.

I'm playing on normal and I'm expecting it to be challenging but fun, there's still pleanty of more difficult settings available where I would expect much harder fights. Instead what I get is more and more impossible fights that cannot be won unless you do everything perfectly. 

There is no fun to be had slamming against one brick wall after another. But that's what every fights is turning into. In all seriousness what the hell were you thinking here? Either they've completely failed to balance the game properly or they made the "proper" gameplay too obtuse to be of any use. 

And if anyone cares to contradict, I don't care if YOU find this game easier with your uber combinations and/or cheats. I know what I'm doing I have a good team with good armor using all of them as best as I can. I'm not the only one with this problem, even people playing on easy, after the patch, claim the game still has too many impossible fights.

The game should not be this way. At the end of the day all this accomplishes is encouraging people to stop playing the game, which is the opposite of what you should be doing. Unless you're assuming people will use cheats, which is a huge failure on your part yet again.

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Nosuchluck

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If you wanted help you'd tell us what you are stuck on. As you say you don't really care about our opinions what do you want us to do exactly? I'll shed a tear for you.

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waffles pwn

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play on easy then...

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Ryngard

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Yeah I'm sorry but I'm about halfway through on Normal and I've not had any trouble... I'm not the biggest tactical player either... I think you need to reset some tactics, use the pause a bit, and/or scale it to easy.

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superfeds26

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what exactly are your problems?

I understand people getting frustrated, but I think that is also a result of a lot of bad habits, learned from other, less challenging games.

this isnt mass effect where you can just blast through everything

I died so much when I first started and was equally frustrated, but then I stopped ignoring the tactics, and started setting up my group better.  Started learning what they could all do and how best to use them.  I started pausing the game more and setting up basic pull stratiges.  You cant just run in and expect your 3 AI controlled party members to hold down the fort while you pew pew everything.

without specific complaints, im not sure you can get much of a response..unless you just want to vent which is fine I guess.

Protip: set a tactic bar on every team memeber to a healing poltice.  self: health < 50% = use lowest health poltice. 

You can of course set the values to whatever you want, but that will help take some of the micro management away and save some lives.

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Greig91

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He's not asking for help he's saying that the game is too hard, and is probably looking to see if anyone here finds this to be true. The more people with this problem the more likely it will be sorted out. If it is a problem of course lol.

Modifié par Greig91, 09 novembre 2009 - 03:13 .


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Aeshyn Stormsinger

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I think he probably just rushes everything. No situation is impossible, you just need to adjust tactics per group and such.

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WickedAwesome

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Kreidian wrote...

And if anyone cares to contradict, I don't care if YOU find this game
easier with your uber combinations and/or cheats. I know what I'm doing
I have a good team with good armor using all of them as best as I can.
I'm not the only one with this problem, even people playing on easy,
after the patch, claim the game still has too many impossible fights.

Lol

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On_Slaught

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I don't think the game is too hard, but I agree that there seems to be a disconnect.



Easy is VERY VERY easy, almost a joke. There is no strategy involved; you just a-move into every fight and win.



However, the jump to normal is larger than it should be. On normal the game makes you play at a high level to be successful in a lot of fights and is very unforgiving for newer gamers who'd expect normal to be, well normal.



This is why the patch change to make "easy easier" is foolish imo since you aren't fixing anything. Just my 2cnt.

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Spaceweed10

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You need a brain to play this game - go back to 'WoW', maybe?

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Nosuchluck

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I don't mind them making easy, or even normal easier but they better not start making the harder difficulties dumbed down. Hard right now is perfect for me.

Also to the OP just use Wynne and morrigan and you can't lose.

Modifié par Nosuchluck, 09 novembre 2009 - 03:13 .


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vizering

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I typically set the health poultice for 25% as I like to do it myself but it's nice to have the tactic run as a back-up.

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Tell me your group composition, what you are, and what fight your at, and I'll try to help as best I can.



As for the difficulty, this is built off the old-school pause RPGs, not the newer ones, this is why it has such a high difficulty curve, oddly, compared to BG2, this game is fairly easy, as in that game, you literally had to pause after every action, and had to fight much larger groups of enemies, with a crazy chance to miss, or hit a glancing blow.

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D00MRoar

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It takes a couple hours to really get use to the controls, but once you feel comfortable with them the game gets a lot easier. I'm assuming you are playing on the PC.

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I know what I'm doing

I have a good team with good armor using all of them as best as I can.




Obviously not. Normal is a cake walk, Hard has an occasional challenging moment but for the most part is not difficult. Only Nightmare gets to what I'm used to from the old RPGs. If you knew what you were doing, had good armor and a strong party you would not be dying on Normal.

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Zonjin

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im playing on hard, and it took me about 2 hours to kill the high dragon, but guess what i creamed myself when i did

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LegendaryFluffy

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I've been playing on Hard. It's definitely been challenging, but by playing right and using good tactics, I usually win. There have been battles that I have died over and over again on, but eventually, I win. Have you been leveling your characters right? I've played other games before where I didn't level up right the first play through and it was incredibly hard, but on the second playthrough i did it right and it was easy.

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KingSarevok

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superfeds26 wrote...

Protip: set a tactic bar on every team memeber to a healing poltice.  self: health < 50% = use lowest health poltice. 

You can of course set the values to whatever you want, but that will help take some of the micro management away and save some lives.


Thanks for the tip Superfeds, will put that one to use right away! :)

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jedensuscg

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I thought the same thing at first, but it just depends on how you go about each fight. There were several fights i would die many times on, and most of the time it was because i had a bad group setup, (i.e. i picked party members based on "hes cool, hate him type stuff) and they didnt really work well together. Most of these fights i figured out the trick to them easily. But i admit, one fight i did say screw it, went and turned difficulty to easy, and just aoe'd the hell out of the place.



Then i made my character an arcane warrior, through on some blood armor and just destroyed everything.



Group makeup plays a big roll in this game, as well as using every resource you have, i set Morrigan to debuffer for many fights just to ease out the incoming damage, i never even had a party member with a heal until i got Wynn. Another big part of how hard or easy it is depends on what class your character is. I watch my wife play as her rogue and she has a way easier time in the beginning then i did on my mage

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vyvexthorne

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Ok. I know you don't care about my opinion or answer... but one thing you can do that I read in the guide is that the game sorts the area for your level when you very first enter that area. So you can enter an area.. if the fight is to hard you can leave... level up a bit and come back and the fight will be easier because it'll keep that area saved at the same level you left it at. But you don't care so that won't help you.

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Edner132435

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Please quiet down. I would really rather not have the extremely vocal minority dictate where game difficulty goes in the future. Enough has been reduced and taken out of games today to cater to casual players. Games that are legitimately challenging are a rare thing today, DA being one of them. I'm playing on hard and having a great time trying to figure out each encounter. Sure, I die a bit, but I enjoy the challenge. Turn down the difficulty settings if you are having problems, don't make blanket statements about the game being impossible if you don't have the exact right party and use everything exactly in a certain manner or you die immediately! Because that is not the case for everyone.

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jedensuscg

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If they do patch the difficulty, it should be an optional patch.

wait it is optional....under difficulty settings.

Modifié par jedensuscg, 09 novembre 2009 - 03:21 .


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Serenity84

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I'm playing on hard and it seems just fine so far for the most part.



However, the random encounters are absolutely unforgiving. A mob of bandits can absolutely slaughter you and drain your resources.

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Nosuchluck

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The saddest thing is with all the complaining it just means future sequels are going to be majorly dumbed down so the people who've only played mass effect can steamroll the game on the hardest difficutlys.

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I have finished the game on normal (mostly) as a mage. Party was Shale, Wynne, and Lel. The game had specific times where I had to switch to easy. Mostly when a fight took place after a load screen or dialogue. Wynne or I would just get one shot. I'd switch to easy and pray fireball hits before I get owned. Happened about half a dozen times. Not boss fights they went well. It's those damn crowds.

Modifié par PhogoX, 09 novembre 2009 - 03:25 .