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[Itphings_King]

I bought the game after it came out and it included blood dragon armor, in refrence to the post a bit above. I did buy a P.C. version at a regular retailer in the u.s.a and the couple stores I checked like gamestop and best buy had it and the golum dlc included.

[mrhateful]

I play it on hard as well(my first run) and i agree its tough and most fight can't be won by running headless into a fight however in no way do i see this as a problem i mean yes sure the flemeth fight was hard but that made it all the sweater once you actually defeated her..

So if you can't handle the game on normal swich to easy thats why the options is their, but i'd argue that not having party dmg totally ruins the fun of the game since it will just become get mages and spam AOE

Modifié par mrhateful, 09 novembre 2009 - 04:43 .

[Cthy]

A game on Normal difficulty should be hard...



if a game on Normal difficulty was easy it would be dissapointing



if you want say an easy experience... play on Easy



Normal is not Easy, meaning it is still a game based on combat which implies that the combat is difficult

[specter7237]

       Playing on normal myself, using Alistair, Morrigan and Wynn.  About 3/4 of the way through and have had very few problems.  Very few reloads and the only really challenging fight I've had so far was the Anvil of the Titans boss and then only because I was out of Lyrium pots.   Take another look at your party set up and USE YOUR CROWD CONTROLS.  I can't stress that enough, and it ought to be a given for anyone who's played an RTS before.

      Loving every minute of this game and Biowares difficulty settings certainly won't shun away my future business.
     
      Lol at the post above me, running in headless never a good idea.

      

[soteria]

I can't even equip the blood dragon armor, and the memory band is a joke. 1% more exp is hardly a game-changer.

[Curry Noodles]

I don't understand how someone can say, with a straight face, "I know what I'm doing" then **** about having trouble on normal. You clearly DON'T know what you're doing if you're having trouble on normal. You're not playing dragon age, you're playing whatever other games you've played while dragon age is on the screen, which is why you're going nuts with the difficulty.



I thought it was frustrating to start too, but the plain truth is that's because I did not know what I was doing. When I learned, the game became much easier.



I think most people are too used to "put best gear on melee characters, click forward and turn off brain for normal fights, turn on 1/100 of brain for boss fights", which is essentially what all of bioware's games have been since BG.

[Delcar]

Yeah, by the time I had the stats for the Blood Dragon Armor, I had alternatives that were just as appealing.

[cpip]

Been playing on Normal. Admittedly, I'm only so far in; using multiple playthroughs at once to explore different options with races, classes, origins, and plot developments.



Sure, there's been some fights that took some finesse. Heck, that first fight a the Tower of Ishal actually was the "slap in the face" fight, the one where I realized that it was time to sit down and THINK, and actually start going for tactics and orders and watching where all four characters were and what they were doing. Once I realized that, things started moving much more smoothly.



Now I'm at about the 25% mark, and while there's been some fights that were difficult, I haven't been driven to throw the disc across the room.

[cpip]

soteria wrote...

I can't even equip the blood dragon armor, and the memory band is a joke. 1% more exp is hardly a game-changer.

Indeed.  The only nice thing about the Blood Dragon Breastplate so far has been being able to sell it for a nice spot of change at Lotharin that can turn into more immediate usage.

[Kelnaz]

The game is exactly what it's meant to be - a challenge. Have you tried other classes? I know from experience that a class can make a significant difference on the difficulty, if your expecting the game to be balanced with each and every class you use, your wrong. My main character (a mage) had very little to no problem so far and is 80% through the game, however I just recently made a dual weild rogue and I'm getting my ass kicked easily towards the beginning of the game. I know exactly what I'm doing too, I'm very obsessive with RPG's, especially this one. I always customize every party members tactics and balance my team out, if your having too hard of a time with a character, try a different class out and get more experienced with the game before you try a more ''difficult'' class out.

[Sythion]

Actually, the game is hard as HELL if you don't have Wynne. It's a cakewalk if you have Wynne.



Guess she's true to her namestake. Seems like such a boring character though

[Tanolus]

I agree with the OP Normal difficulty is challenging not with the boss fights but with the 16 vs 4 ambushes of low mobs. The mechanics of being zerged and the bonuses given makes numbers and aoe magic the biggest stumbling block. The example I use is the Zervan ambush with 8 archers on the hill and Zervan and his 5 assassins rushing you while there mage sits back and debuffs / nukes etc. At Level 8 Morrigan and Wynne do not have the spells yet for mass crowd control I took the raise the unconcious party members for the level up spells for wynne and the cone of cold for Morrigan. The Zevran encounter does not let you pull the mobs which I do IF you can break up the numbers but in the Zevran ancounter this is not possible you are surrounded and worn down with arrow fire while the largest threat is from Zevran. I have been playing RPG games since they came out and play on line in PVP. The "normal" difficulty of this game is a lot tougher than normal in the industry and in many situations tactics are negated by design as in the Zervan ambush. The other issue of arrows for players to do archery to help such a situation of an ambush is that normal arrows to use on a regular basis do not exist instead this game has fire arrows and ice arrows that a party cannot afford had 10 gold after selling from completing the broken circle and 40 fire arrows cost over 6 gold. that is a serious design flaw and rediculous.

[flem1]

Tanolus wrote...

I agree with the OP Normal difficulty is challenging not with the boss fights but with the 16 vs 4 ambushes of low mobs. The mechanics of being zerged and the bonuses given makes numbers and aoe magic the biggest stumbling block. The example I use is the Zervan ambush with 8 archers on the hill and Zervan and his 5 assassins rushing you while there mage sits back and debuffs / nukes etc. At Level 8 Morrigan and Wynne do not have the spells yet for mass crowd control

Use the geography of the encounter.  Going behind the hill will put you out of LOS for the archers.  Yes, there's a trap there, but eat it.  The rest is easy.

[Kyrgsh]

Well, I'll agree with you, Tanolus, only in as much as that I think elemental arrows are way too expensive. I mean, for the cost of like 6 fire arrows, you can buy a tier 3 longsword. Those six fire arrows are going to do a total of 12 extra damage (plus whatever vulnerability your mage puts on the mobs). Leiliana (sp?) will shoot those six arrows off in about ten seconds and then the money you spent is lost forever. Whereas that tier 3 longsword will be useful for your rogue's or tank's first several levels, which is several hours or more of gameplay. And when you're done with it, you can sell it to make 25% of your purchase price back.



I am sure, though, that with the toolset now released, arrows will become somewhat more reasonably priced.

[Naxterra]

Try killing a Revenant or try to complete last encounter of Dwarf City Arena. My party was level 7 and there is no logical way to defeat them. My tank get hit for 120 damage and I had only 216 HP. I am playing game on Normal diff but that is hard. I have Sten, Morrigan, Alisair in my party.



Also I need ability to customise mine and my companions spells but default ones are crappy spent.



And without a healer game is nearly impossible to beat. I am currently searching for Dwarf Paragon and kinda bored because of that nearly impossible difficulty of this game. Where is healer? I do not want Morrigan to be healer, she is one of my main dps companions.

[exerci]

Naxterra wrote...

Try killing a Revenant or try to complete last encounter of Dwarf City Arena. My party was level 7 and there is no logical way to defeat them. My tank get hit for 120 damage and I had only 216 HP. I am playing game on Normal diff but that is hard. I have Sten, Morrigan, Alisair in my party.

Also I need ability to customise mine and my companions spells but default ones are crappy spent.

And without a healer game is nearly impossible to beat. I am currently searching for Dwarf Paragon and kinda bored because of that nearly impossible difficulty of this game. Where is healer? I do not want Morrigan to be healer, she is one of my main dps companions.

Crowd control, my dear.

I play as a mage, have Sten, Shale, and Leliana in my party. Sten is tanking, Shale is punching stuff, and Leliana pewpews arrows.

First thing I did when fighting those four in the last encounter of the Dwarf City Rena consisted of: Force field the big guy, crushing prison on another, horror or whatever that thingie is called on a third, and let the others slaughter the fourth, then smash the guy in horror, then the crushing prison, and then the final one. Very easy. It does make it even easier with a healer though.

I'm playing on hard currently. I probably could switch it up to nightmare if I wanted to, but... I'm not sure if it's too hard for me.

[Supersomething]

The learning curve from Easy to Normal is rather steep. I know I wasn't getting anywhere when I started this game out on normal, simply because I didn't know the overall mechanics of how this game works. So I resorted to playing through on easy to get a better grasp on the game, and figure out just how it should be played.



Tried again on normal, but I'm still having issues in some fights, especially at the Mage Tower (hate that zone with a passion). But like any game, it just takes practice and eventually you'll master it.



I remember the first time playing KotoR 1, that game kicked my ass a couple times, until I figured it out the mechanics of the game, granted the learning curve of that one is not quite as steep as the one here.

[Aryma]

/sigh.. More and more people are ignorant and rude anymore. Seriously people if you cant respect someones opinion then dont post anything.



As for the OP.. There are some tougher battles on normal where if I begin to get frustrated I just move on and do something else.. That may help you keep your sanity.

[Sereaph502]

Curry Noodles wrote...

I don't understand how someone can say, with a straight face, "I know what I'm doing" then **** about having trouble on normal. You clearly DON'T know what you're doing if you're having trouble on normal. You're not playing dragon age, you're playing whatever other games you've played while dragon age is on the screen, which is why you're going nuts with the difficulty.

Tell me, then, allmighty strategy player who can solo hardcore mode without ever taking damage because they're so damn uber at strategy RPGs:

How do I get through a fight with 15-20 skeletons at once using a rogue, two fighters, and a mage?  The mage has cone of cold, and can take most of the enemies out of the fight, but usually hits my two fighters also.

The fighters die easily because of overwhelming numbers, even with potion chugging and the mage healing (yes, I gave my mage healing, I'm not an idiot)  Then they go after my rogue or mage, who die even easier.

No amount of strategy I've seen can help you survive that fight, unless you're all mages or all have insane amounts of AoEs.  The only way I've found to beating that fight is setting the difficulty to easy, and then it was TOO easy.


Please share your strategy with me on that fight.  if you've actually played the game and aren't just spewing crap on the forums to make yourself feel better, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.  And remember, I want a strategy that will get me through that fight, not someone telling me to "L2P" in a sad attempt to boost their own ego.


Oh wait, that's right, there IS no strategy that can get you through that fight!

[MrGOH]

Someone needs to record a bunch of these fights and post the videos on YouTube to demonstrate how not impossible they are.

[inSPECTRE Shepard_]

It's a lot harder than I thought it would be. I'm just not a fan of micro managing, I prefer something like KOTOR or FF12, you upgrade them, give the occasional order, then watch the fight play out. This requires a little too much strategy for my taste, makes the battles a bit less fun.

[inSPECTRE Shepard_]

MrGOH wrote...

Someone needs to record a bunch of these fights and post the videos on YouTube to demonstrate how not impossible they are.

That's a good idea, I'd love to see how the pros do it.

[Biefstukfriet]

I like smacking into them brick walls, when I've hurdled that proverbial wall, it makes me feel proud of having accomplished a difficult feat.

[Shannara13]

They should really add what version you are playing(Console or PC) on your Avatar. You get people in these threads arguing about difficulty with each other when they are using different versions.

[exerci]

Sereaph502 wrote...

Curry Noodles wrote...

I don't understand how someone can say, with a straight face, "I know what I'm doing" then **** about having trouble on normal. You clearly DON'T know what you're doing if you're having trouble on normal. You're not playing dragon age, you're playing whatever other games you've played while dragon age is on the screen, which is why you're going nuts with the difficulty.

Tell me, then, allmighty strategy player who can solo hardcore mode without ever taking damage because they're so damn uber at strategy RPGs:

How do I get through a fight with 15-20 skeletons at once using a rogue, two fighters, and a mage?  The mage has cone of cold, and can take most of the enemies out of the fight, but usually hits my two fighters also.

The fighters die easily because of overwhelming numbers, even with potion chugging and the mage healing (yes, I gave my mage healing, I'm not an idiot)  Then they go after my rogue or mage, who die even easier.

No amount of strategy I've seen can help you survive that fight, unless you're all mages or all have insane amounts of AoEs.  The only way I've found to beating that fight is setting the difficulty to easy, and then it was TOO easy.


Please share your strategy with me on that fight.  if you've actually played the game and aren't just spewing crap on the forums to make yourself feel better, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.  And remember, I want a strategy that will get me through that fight, not someone telling me to "L2P" in a sad attempt to boost their own ego.


Oh wait, that's right, there IS no strategy that can get you through that fight!

Apparently people have done it on nightmare. You can't tell me it's impossible.

But yeah, there's only one reply to this: "Not enough information. Plenty of fights involve plenty of mooks rushing at you."