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Game crashing after PS3 Firmware 3.30 update


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Knight Terror

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Also having the same problem. I can't do anything to replicate it, as it is totally random. I've had it happen in 1 origin, but not the other. I've had it happen in camp, in the Kokiri Wilds, pretty much anywhere at anytime it seems. I get about 1-2 freezes every hour.



I popped in my 360 version just to test it, and I don't get the same problem. Only with my PS3.



(you can check my profile to see I own both versions, even the DLC for both. Yes, I'm a DA loser)

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I have not updated to Firmware 3.30. I have not connected my Ps3 to the Internet since this thread started.



I have not had any freezing issues with Dragon Age: Origins & Awakenings as I have Disabled my internet connection in the Network Options section of the XMB. When I saw this thread, I decided I could live without having my Ps3 online until this gets sussed out.



The decision is yours: If you do not install Firmware 3.30, DA will run as it did *pre-update*. So far I have not seen one post either here or on the Sony Blog reporting Dragon Age running normally, (ie. not freezing) after Firmware Update 3.30.

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Cuneax wrote...

I've had the same problem: the game just seem to freeze at random points. But the game has stopped freezing after I started to save after every dialogue and fight. I tested without saving, and it froze not long after. Maybe it's too early to say for sure, but it seems it works for me (while waiting for a real solution, of course).



If this indeed prevents the freeze from happening, it would seem to point to a memory corruption issue IMO.  I would venture to guess that any unsaved data is buffered in RAM until a save is done, at which time the data would be flushed to hard disk.  The more data you have to save, the bigger and more complex the buffer(s) and the more complex the pointers to store that/those buffer(s).  I would also guess that the PS3 just provides an API to the DAO program.  The DAO program requests a memory allocation for its unsaved data at boot up.  It could be that the amount of memory requested or the amount of data stored is hitting a key memory quantity that is causing the PS3's memory management code to choke.

Sorry, just thinking out loud.

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Langdawg wrote...

Cuneax wrote...

I've had the same problem: the game just seem to freeze at random points. But the game has stopped freezing after I started to save after every dialogue and fight. I tested without saving, and it froze not long after. Maybe it's too early to say for sure, but it seems it works for me (while waiting for a real solution, of course).



If this indeed prevents the freeze from happening, it would seem to point to a memory corruption issue IMO.  I would venture to guess that any unsaved data is buffered in RAM until a save is done, at which time the data would be flushed to hard disk.  The more data you have to save, the bigger and more complex the buffer(s) and the more complex the pointers to store that/those buffer(s).  I would also guess that the PS3 just provides an API to the DAO program.  The DAO program requests a memory allocation for its unsaved data at boot up.  It could be that the amount of memory requested or the amount of data stored is hitting a key memory quantity that is causing the PS3's memory management code to choke.

Sorry, just thinking out loud.


Good point, I went nearly four hours last night without a crash but I was also saving after every fight and dialog, but I stopped saving after I had cleared the quest and gone back to vigils keep, spent a good half hour resetting runes and selling and buying loot, sure enough another crash when trying to level Nathaniel.

Modifié par fatsatyr, 29 avril 2010 - 04:44 .


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Just got the game and it freezes on me. You never know when or how it's going to occur. It just happens. I try and save the game as much as possible. It happens very often.
I love the game and want to play as much as I can. But still very annoying and may keep me from buying the DLC.

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I have noticed that it doesn't freeze as much when I do save the game often. But there are times when I can't save and it seems that is when it gets me mostly.

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interesting....



I haven't turned mine on today, yet. May have to try this save theory.

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Yeah I seemed to get no crashes when I saved often, but then eventually I got a crash.

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ChrissyTina

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MarauderHD wrote...

I have noticed that it doesn't freeze as much when I do save the game often. But there are times when I can't save and it seems that is when it gets me mostly.



This just caught my eye.  What do you mean by "as much"?  What was it doing before?

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the saving a lot option really doesn't help me, I'm saving after every successful battle, but the next one then crashes (I'm in redcliffe at the moment, about to head off to the mage tower for that portion). My crashes happen in the middle of battle, when I have L2 pressed to open up the radial menu and I'm aiming a spell or trying to find the right target. Last time was with the radial menu opening choosing frost weapons.

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OrlesianWardenCommander

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Heres my theory now my 40gb ps3 can run dao when im signed out for 6hours and it crashes. I mean exactly at 6hours everytime.



But the First and new 3gen models crash no matter what. Now i've noticed that a few things crash it.



Fire. Activated abilitys like song of courage, stepping on the bride peices on UOSA quest fireballs and most other spells. If your run to fast the game can lock up to also heavy armors make me freeze at times my game will lock but the main problem i think is the connection between the bioware servers here and the ps3 its self. Cause signed out i can play for awhile before locking so i think every six hours my ps3 tries to see if it can contact the bioware servers and it locks. Even if i get off the game and reload it the game has to crash before i can play another 6hours of play. But my guess is as good as any at this point just food for thought.

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ChrissyTina

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I am playing mine right now. I haven't really done anything yet, just talking to ppl at camp.

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This is f***in ridiculous now I am playing on Nightmare just beat the first Revenant for Black Vials and it froze -.- What a perfect time to freeze


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ugh...that sucks.....

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OrlesianWardenCommander

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I feel bad that i can play for 6hours without freezing im going to have to see what the old fats and slims have in common i think software and hardware is coming into play with the freezing.

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Whoa I just got a DM on twitter from Jess Chobot! Apparently IGN did know about this already... No clue as to why they haven't written an article about it though...

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I wouldn't feel bad. That's awesome that you can! Keep us posted if you find a "trend"! :D

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brammers_01 wrote...

Whoa I just got a DM on twitter from Jess Chobot! Apparently IGN did know about this already... No clue as to why they haven't written an article about it though...


Hehe tell her to mention it in the Daily Fix

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OrlesianWardenCommander

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Deffiently ill let everyone here know whats going on when i crash since i crash 4-5times a day ill keep an eye for patterns. For now the theory i have posted above still stands as my main idea why it might be crashing. But im sure its more then one thing.

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Man this is a bummer, oh well back to more KOTOR II instead of playing as an elf mage in new game DAO and DAO A until there is a fix

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Yeah it's totally random apparently they need to fix this crap or do something to compensate people for all the bull and money wasted.

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OrlesianWardenCommander

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Ha i say the best fix is getting a PC....Im gona get one next year that way i got the best of both worlds...

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OrlesianWardenCommander wrote...

Ha i say the best fix is getting a PC....Im gona get one next year that way i got the best of both worlds...


I did that once... But then in a year my PC was outdated and I couldn't afford a new one so I got a PS3 instead :P 
It's such a shame that PC gaming is dying out cos we may hate to admit it, you can't get better graphics than on a PC. Plus FPSs are awesome on a PC...
Still waiting on an email back from Bioware but at least I have this forum as a substitute to playing Dragon Age :P

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Yes indeed we can all unite here and rant about how sony doesn't care to test there 3.30patches before they just throw it out there sonys been off there game with this firmwire crap for almost a year now. Theres always somthing new that goes wrong. I dont think PC gaming is dying it just isn't getting as much attention as it used to i doubt pc gaming will ever truely die.

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Hi, just an update, I have tested with 1 character or multiple character created, and it does not seem to be related with the freeze. Also, with ethernet cable plug in or not, or logged on the PSN or not, it freezes.

Until, I read in the early post by someone, to disable the BD/DVD upconvert under setting, I was playing fine for another 4 hours before I went to bed... will continue tonight to see if I hit and freeze.