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[Astoroth]

reece4591 wrote...
People need to crawl out of Biowares a** and accept the fact that this is not acceptable.

You basically have two options:

1. Be patient and wait for the fix
2. Try to return the game for a refund

Pissing and moaning about it on this forum is not going to get the patch out sooner.

[JaapEngel79]

OrlesianWardenCommander wrote...

Not really, How do you expect them to help you by calling them when theres nothing they can do about it.Chances are they'd release another patch and it would mess up more games you cant test every game that people play on ps3 to see if the patch works with it. If its just one game affected there not going to bother fixing it just based on the cost of development of a whole new firmwire. Its just business the ps3 doesnt revolve around us dragon age players we are very few in number.

You're right. What they can, and should, do is send their firmware updates to their major developers (say, the top 20, 30?) with a month of testing/bugfixing it before releasing it to the public. If developers (such as Bioware, but other games seem to crash as well for what I've heard) have any serious issues, they'll report that back to Sony and work on a solution *together* before releasing that update. Or they could release a modified update instead.

If developers don't reply, the update is either OK, or you can prove that the developers have had their chance to review the update but failed to do so. Then it's either waiting for the next Sony firmware update, or a developer-made fix.

[Verses]

reece4591 wrote...

People need to crawl out of Biowares a** and accept the fact that this is not acceptable.

Kinda agreed, it's pretty annoying to go out there, buy a product, have it mess up on you and then have people jump on you for complaining about that.

[TimeKiller]

Give them time to fix things up. Wouldnt want a fast coming patch and still has tons of flaws right?

[Astoroth]

JaapEngel79 wrote...
You're right. What they can, and should, do is send their firmware updates to their major developers (say, the top 20, 30?) with a month of testing/bugfixing it before releasing it to the public. If developers (such as Bioware, but other games seem to crash as well for what I've heard) have any serious issues, they'll report that back to Sony and work on a solution *together* before releasing that update. Or they could release a modified update instead.

That's not a very plausible idea as it would be far too time-consuming and a logistical nightmare. Besides, when it comes to this particular problem it would probably not have helped anyway, as the freezing problem isn't reproducible on the devkits, and that's where the developer would be testing new firmwares. Apart from that, Bioware isn't one of the top 20-30 developers on the PS3.

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

JaapEngel79 wrote...

"You're right. What they can, and should, do is send their firmware updates to their major developers (say, the top 20, 30?) with a month of testing/bugfixing it before releasing it to the public. If developers (such as Bioware, but other games seem to crash as well for what I've heard) have any serious issues, they'll report that back to Sony and work on a solution *together* before releasing that update. Or they could release a modified update instead.
If developers don't reply, the update is either OK, or you can prove that the developers have had their chance to review the update but failed to do so. Then it's either waiting for the next Sony firmware update, or a developer-made fix."

Yes i agree that every company should be testing there own games for sony firmwires, and sony should not keep game devlopers in the dark about there firmwire updates. But we also have to remember this is biowares first time working with sony for a game on the ps3 system so it'll be a little rocky at first and issues will start coming up less as they get used to developing titles for the ps3. We will get a fix in time for now we just got to let Bioware do there thing and soon this will be but a distant memory.

[zenassassins]

Verses wrote...

Kinda agreed, it's pretty annoying to go out there, buy a product, have it mess up on you and then have people jump on you for complaining about that.

I think people are griping more about the way people are complaining just for the sake of hearing themselves talk. There's 80+ pages of people saying they're pissed or b*tching about this and that. After about the 3rd page it got old real quick. At this point there's not much sense in complaining. If someone is upset with Bioware then contact them directly and chew them out. Barking on the boards just annoys the hell out of other people.

Just one person's opinion though.

Modifié par zenassassins, 10 mai 2010 - 02:19 .

[Astoroth]

zenassassins wrote...
I think people are griping more about the way people are complaining just for the sake of hearing themselves talk. There's 80+ pages of people saying they're pissed or b*tching about this and that. After about the 3rd page it got old real quick. At this point there's not much sense in complaining. If someone is upset with Bioware then contact them directly and chew them out. Barking on the boards just annoys the hell out of other people.

Just one person's opinion though.

I'll second that!

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

Im just impressed that after weeks people still cant find a different game to pass the time.

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

zenassassins wrote...

Verses wrote...

Kinda agreed, it's pretty annoying to go out there, buy a product, have it mess up on you and then have people jump on you for complaining about that.

I think people are griping more about the way people are complaining just for the sake of hearing themselves talk. There's 80+ pages of people saying they're pissed or b*tching about this and that. After about the 3rd page it got old real quick. At this point there's not much sense in complaining. If someone is upset with Bioware then contact them directly and chew them out. Barking on the boards just annoys the hell out of other people.

Just one person's opinion though.

Ill third that.

[Dansharp1]

I have yet ive finished god of war 3 even with thew platinum trophy..

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

Lol i beat it on titan mode but haven't found the motivation for my 7th platinum did zues take 3hours like it did me?

[ChrissyTina]

OrlesianWardenCommander wrote...

zenassassins wrote...

Verses wrote...

Kinda agreed, it's pretty annoying to go out there, buy a product, have it mess up on you and then have people jump on you for complaining about that.

I think people are griping more about the way people are complaining just for the sake of hearing themselves talk. There's 80+ pages of people saying they're pissed or b*tching about this and that. After about the 3rd page it got old real quick. At this point there's not much sense in complaining. If someone is upset with Bioware then contact them directly and chew them out. Barking on the boards just annoys the hell out of other people.

Just one person's opinion though.

Ill third that.

DITTO DITTO DITTO!!!!  

[Heavenboy]

I just think it's a shame that they still sell this game at full price and that they do not even mention it anywhere in the shops.

Is it legal to sell a game a company knows to be broken?

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

Its still software that costed money to make and even if they never fix DAO although they will eventually i got tons of game time out of it and enjoyment. So im happy with the money i spent on DAO. Never had any DLC issues or anything like that all been smooth sailing till 3.30firmwire but theres no point in dwelling on it. Also there not forcing you to buy it i do my research before i invest in a game.

[sangy]

I don't know how it works to fix a problem like this. I'm sure a lot of people aren't aware of the process as well. Some might just expect a quick fix, period. I think most would just like a recognition on Sony's part to admit there is a problem and that they're working on it and doing all they can to get this quickly resolved. Maybe even give a brief explanation about how it isn't a quick process so people have some kind of time frame to work with. Doesn't have to be specific.



The amount of posts and similarities from multiple people might be helpful to give Bioware an idea of how many are affected. The same could be said for those posting on the Sony site.



I know for some it's really annoying to see the angry posts over and over. Some take it to another level that seems extreme. It doesn't really bother me. This wouldn't be so bad if it were just Dragon Age affected, but it is other games too. I can see why some are really mad. I feel bad for those who have whose systems have been damaged.



All we can do is vent through these posts, look for good news (or bad) and try to be patient. It's obvious how much a little reassurance helps. Seems most are happy with Bioware for what they've done and almost everyone unhappy with Sony. As for me, I'm just keeping up with the forums info each day. Thanks to those keeping us posted on the latest.

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

I like having Intelligent conversations about bioware and sony things with people on here. What annoys me are the people that come in here and still complain and swear after what 2weeks? Like i said tons of other games as we wait to see a patch just patent and soon this will be but a bad memory. Hey look on the bright side atleast we got a community of dragon age Ps3 players talking on a forum we are very spread out.

[KaBloom-UK]

Look, yes there afe 80 pages of moaning about this issue, and if they where all posted in the same couple of days id agree with you that its unjustified. but people are moaning becouse its been 3 weeks and still no word on a release date for this fix!



you may be ok with this becouse youve actualy had the chance to play the bloody game crash free! but for a lot of people whove just had their ps3 with this game, too right there gonna p**s and moan!



yes i could find sumthin else to play(well ive had to realy) but the point is i shudnt have to when ive literaly just spent good money on dragon age. It was the fact that bioware released this on ps3 that made up my mind to get one instead of building a pc! doubt we'll see another releas from them after all this tho. Truly gutting.

Modifié par KaBloom-UK, 10 mai 2010 - 03:23 .

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

Very true i feel sorry for people who recently purchased DAO. I have played the game alot, But they will release another game after this its just they are not use to developing software for ps3 for i believe this is there first title for the system. We just gota hang in there the patch should be a bit after the new DLC comes out for DAO.

[Astoroth]

KaBloom-UK wrote...
Look, yes there afe 80 pages of moaning about this issue, and if they where all posted in the same couple of days id agree with you that its unjustified. but people are moaning becouse its been 3 weeks and still no word on a release date for this fix!

I wouldn't say that it's completely unjustified. I'm disappointed too. However, it is completely and utterly pointless at this point to gripe about it. There is a fix under way and it will be here when it's here.

The reason it's taking a long time is because of QA - the red tape that is EA cert. testing and Sony cert. testing is exactly that, QA. I would like to point out the irony in griping about too much QA for a fix for a problem that was probably caused by too little QA in the first place.

I don't know about the rest of you people, but I'd prefer to have a very thoroughly tested patch rather than something that's been rushed to release.

[Difre]

Astoroth
That's not a very plausible idea as it would be far too time-consuming and a logistical nightmare. Besides, when it comes to this particular problem it would probably not have helped anyway, as the freezing problem isn't reproducible on the devkits, and that's where the developer would be testing new firmwares. Apart from that, Bioware isn't one of the top 20-30 developers on the PS3.

Are you seriuos? Even if all this problems dont work on devkits they couldnt at least buy a normal ps3 and pay a guy to teste the game on it before release the firmware? Bah...or now i need to send some buck to the companys to buy normal ps3s to see how their games works on it because they only have devkits and Sony dont mind on how the games of the developers gonna work on the next firmware...Dude theres no excuse to this bs firmware...I am actually more pi#$%ed up with Sony on this. They rushed to release something that only makes things worst since the BS 3D games arent out there yet. Its not like we need 3D games tomorrow or we gonna die. I say again: they need test more this firmwares before realese then so close from each other. Or actually puts more good stuff on it before make us go all this update process for nothing thats wortly. (Yes, 3D its not wortly at least for now)

About if Bioware not being one of their 20-30 developers on the PS3 maybe you are right i honestly dont know. But maybe EA is? And since AE logo's pops up on the game start screen...i dont think its there just for the show.

Modifié par Difre, 10 mai 2010 - 03:42 .

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

Yes, i rather they test it then the patch rushed to us *cough 1.03* is why we got bugs on DAO/DAA in the first place.

[brammers_01]

ChrissyTina wrote...

OrlesianWardenCommander wrote...

zenassassins wrote...

Verses wrote...

Kinda agreed, it's pretty annoying to go out there, buy a product, have it mess up on you and then have people jump on you for complaining about that.

I think people are griping more about the way people are complaining just for the sake of hearing themselves talk. There's 80+ pages of people saying they're pissed or b*tching about this and that. After about the 3rd page it got old real quick. At this point there's not much sense in complaining. If someone is upset with Bioware then contact them directly and chew them out. Barking on the boards just annoys the hell out of other people.

Just one person's opinion though.

Ill third that.

DITTO DITTO DITTO!!!!  

me too! DITTO! 

[Astoroth]

Difre wrote...
Are you seriuos?

Yes I'm serious.

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

Difre wrote...

Astoroth
That's not a very plausible idea as it would be far too time-consuming and a logistical nightmare. Besides, when it comes to this particular problem it would probably not have helped anyway, as the freezing problem isn't reproducible on the devkits, and that's where the developer would be testing new firmwares. Apart from that, Bioware isn't one of the top 20-30 developers on the PS3.

Are you seriuos? Even if all this problems dont work on devkits they couldnt at least buy a normal ps3 and actually pay a trained ape to teste the game on it before release the firmware? Bah...or now i need to send some buck to the companys to buy normal ps3s to see how their games worls on it because they only have devkits...Dude theres no excuse to this bs firmware...they rushed to release something that only makes things worst since the BS 3D games are not there yet. Its not like we need 3D games tomorrow or we gonna die. I say again: they need test this firmware things more before realese then so close from each other. Or actually puts more good stuff on it before make us go all this update process for nothing that wortly.

About if Biowarenot being one of their 20-30 developers on the PS3 maybe you are right i honestly dont know. But maybe EA is? And since AE logo's pops up on the game start screen...i dont think its there just for the show.

I hate how sony uses us as beta testers and forces us to download there firmwires. I agree with you that 3d gaming right now is completely unnessary and most people dont even have 3D TV's there still high in price and most people wont buy them at first.  But owell nothing we can really do about it but bare with sony on there wild rollcoaster firmwire ride that never wil end.   The real question is what will go wrong with the next sony firmwire?