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[cruc1al]

omgitztommy3 wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

I recommend Vindicator for an Adept. It's so accurate with the accuracy upgrade that it's almost like a Viper with no scope. So it can be used at short range too. And it wipes the floor with Tempest in terms of accuracy and damage to armor and health.

Gotta disagree w/ that choice.  The Locust SMG is just a little(tiny, tiny bit imo) worse, and you don't have to wait and use your resources on assault rifles upgrades while you are stuck with a weak little SMG.  I think I also remember that assault rifles and SMGs both use Iridium.

Also, more squadmates use SMGs than assault rifles, so you're better off imo getting sniper.

In terms of rate of fire, Vindicator wins hands down because it does more damage per time out of cover. With locust you have to stay out of cover to achieve max damage with full auto, whereas with vindicator you can shoot a burst, get back to cover, shoot a burst etc.

In terms of damage, it's not a matter of opinion. Vindicator wins by far. In my video test, Locust took 4.1 seconds to destroy 500 shields, and 4.0 seconds to finish the Geth Hunter. Vindicator took 2.5s and 3.4s for shields and health, respectively, when tap-fired to minimise the pause between bursts.

Modifié par cruc1al, 25 avril 2010 - 03:05 .

[swk3000]

t3HPrO wrote...

If you can't kill anything within 10 shots with the GPR,you're doing it wrong...all anyone needs is a coupla 5 round bursts to take something down...and besides,it's the worst rifle against armor,but the best against biotic barriers and shields.Never used anything else but the GPR when I got it.And yes,don't be lazy,INVEST in AR upgrades.It works wonders.

I would still like to know how you kill everything so quickly using the Geth Pulse Rifle.

[Sand King]

swk3000 wrote...

t3HPrO wrote...

If you can't kill anything within 10 shots with the GPR,you're doing it wrong...all anyone needs is a coupla 5 round bursts to take something down...and besides,it's the worst rifle against armor,but the best against biotic barriers and shields.Never used anything else but the GPR when I got it.And yes,don't be lazy,INVEST in AR upgrades.It works wonders.

I would still like to know how you kill everything so quickly using the Geth Pulse Rifle.

So would I

[swk3000]

You know, I find it annoying how people will say stuff like 'The Geth Pulse Rifle kills everything in 10 shots', but then when asked for how, they simply clam up.

[Sand King]

swk3000 wrote...

You know, I find it annoying how people will say stuff like 'The Geth Pulse Rifle kills everything in 10 shots', but then when asked for how, they simply clam up.

the internet is full of  Lairs  

Modifié par Sand King, 25 avril 2010 - 03:28 .

[Icinix]

I like the Geth Pulse Rifle.



With that said however, I spend more time with the Widow and the Hand Cannon.

[NICKjnp]

I liked it when I did my first NG + Insanity run... but I don't really use it anymore because I don't like how it looks. Now I usually stick with the Vindicator.

[gethspy]

however it does make sense for a squad mate weapon

[NYG1991]

i treat t like another version of the tempest. i don't use it but i have all AR carrying squaddies use it with incendiary. i like the volume of fire it offers and itsgot freat accuracy when used by them. it does basically the same damage as the smg so no reason to carry on shep. just stcik w/ vin for him

[t3HPrO]

swk3000 wrote...

You know, I find it annoying how people will say stuff like 'The Geth Pulse Rifle kills everything in 10 shots', but then when asked for how, they simply clam up.

FYI,I was at school.And just put inferno ammo on,just shoot 10 shots,and let the inferno work it's magic.Of course,10 is the average(it's hard to get off regular bursts of fire on any auto weapon),so the number may actually be anywhere from 8-14.

[t3HPrO]

swk3000 wrote...

You know, I find it annoying how people will say stuff like 'The Geth Pulse Rifle kills everything in 10 shots', but then when asked for how, they simply clam up.

And no,I DID NOT say 'it kills EVERYTHING' in 10.I said 'CAN'T KILL ANYTHING'.World of difference.And besides,if you can't even nail a vorcha in 10,maybe you should be playing Mario Bros.

[swk3000]

So you shoot, then sit and wait. Whereas I pop 2 bursts with the Vindicator, and they're dead. That's 6 shots to completely dead compared to 8-14 shots to get the Inferno damage set up, then another couple of seconds to sit there and wait while they burn to death.



Fun.

[cruc1al]

Obviously the number of shots it takes for GPR or any other rifle to kill anything will depend on 1) what you're shooting at 2) how far you're shooting from 3) what level your incendiary ammo is 3) what other damage bonuses you have, and 4) what level your character is. It is clear from all experiments I've done that Vindicator kills much faster than any other rifle. Since all bonuses are percentage bonuses to the base damage, and not absolute bonuses (like +10 damage), the damage per second ratio of the rifles stays pretty much the same regardless of bonuses, ammo etc.

While it may be true that you can use the GPR efficiently, it's still true that you can use the Vindicator much more efficiently.

Modifié par cruc1al, 26 avril 2010 - 12:38 .

[t3HPrO]

cruc1al wrote...

Obviously the number of shots it takes for GPR or any other rifle to kill anything will depend on 1) what you're shooting at 2) how far you're shooting from 3) what level your incendiary ammo is 3) what other damage bonuses you have, and 4) what level your character is. It is clear from all experiments I've done that Vindicator kills much faster than any other rifle. Since all bonuses are percentage bonuses to the base damage, and not absolute bonuses (like +10 damage), the damage per second ratio of the rifles stays pretty much the same regardless of bonuses, ammo etc.

While it may be true that you can use the GPR efficiently, it's still true that you can use the Vindicator much more efficiently.

True,but the Vindicator has the lowest ammo count of all the assault rifles.Sure,it's powerful,but if you find yourself in a situation where there are lots of enemies and next to no thermals on the ground to pick up,you're screwed.And a gun without ammo isn't very useful,is it?Besides,I prefer accuracy,low recoil and high ammo reserves to raw power all the time.And the GPR happens to be the second most accurate(most accurate being the Vindicator),and has the highest clip count,AND has nearly zero recoil.

[t3HPrO]

swk3000 wrote...

So you shoot, then sit and wait. Whereas I pop 2 bursts with the Vindicator, and they're dead. That's 6 shots to completely dead compared to 8-14 shots to get the Inferno damage set up, then another couple of seconds to sit there and wait while they burn to death.

Fun.

Nah...actually this lets me engage multiple targets faster.Pop a coupla bursts at one idiot,and immediately shift to the other,while the first one burns to a crisp.Repeat as necessary.And besides,you tend to run outta ammo on a Vindicator pretty often.

[swk3000]

t3HPrO wrote...

And besides,you tend to run outta ammo on a Vindicator pretty often.

Not if you're using it correctly. I only ran out of ammo with the Vindicator one time, and that was during the final fight in Kasumi's Loyalty Mission. The only reason I ran out was because I hadn't gotten the specifics of the fight down, so I was running low on all my ammo. Now, I can run through that fight with no problems.

Use the Vindicator correctly, and you will never run out of ammo.

[Grand_Commander13]

Yeah, when it only takes six rounds to the head to kill an enemy on Insanity, you can forgive only having 96 rounds of spare ammo.

The GPR, as I'm certain has been said, isn't a terrible weapon. It's comparable to the Avenger for damage after all, and shields and barriers are common defenses. It's just that you get the Vindicator so early, and the Avenger is never that fantastic a weapon to begin with, and you get the Geth Pulse Rifle so late...

[Brako Shepard]

Yeah the Geth pulse rifle was no good in the original Mass Effect either.

Shame aswell because it looks groovy as hell. I might just give it Legion next time though, as I do most of the gun work anyways.

[Sawp]

Personally , i found the geth pulse rifle quite usefull to strip barrier and armors.

it's probably not the best, but it remains handy in many situations.

i hate the burst stuff from the vindicator, even if it is powerfull.

As an adept , i mostly use Warp / Warp explosion to do some health damage, so it doesn't really matter.

[OniGanon]

Brako Shepard wrote...

Yeah the Geth pulse rifle was no good in the original Mass Effect either.

Really, it was only the lack of mod slots that killed it. It was otherwise a pretty good gun.

Modifié par OniGanon, 01 mai 2010 - 08:59 .

[Canned Bullets]

Its more of an easter egg, it isn't like the other weapons which were meant to be picked up.

[OniGanon]

You kind've have to wonder why the heck Morlan has a manufacturer's license to distribute Geth weaponry...

[NaclynE]

<<Whydoes the Geth Rifle have to be so blah?>>



Been wondering that myself. It's great against guys with barrier but then afterwards it's the worst and can't even take down a simple geth soldier or anything out. I found Revenant and the second assault rifle a heck alot better than that. By the way why is it only getable in HARDCORE MODE? I don't even find it worth 'finding in a harder difficulty setting'

[TwevOWNED]

Well, the GPR is good with Shields and Biotic Barriers, so if you don't have Zaeed in your squad to give you Disrupter ammo, equip someone with it.



The accuracy upgrade helps the GPR actually hit something, and damage upgrades help too. With 4/6 AR damage boosts in the game, it's pretty powerful, but so is the Reverent, Avanger, and Vindicator at that point.



It's the kind of weapon (Like the Carnifex/Predator, Mantis, Tempest, and Scimitar) that you would give to the squad as they have great accuracy, but not really helpful to you.

[Tlazolteotl]

IMO, 'cos on veteran and below, it would be totally useless against all those foes with only a health bar.

Yeah.