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[Wintermist]

I've been bothered by the economy in DAO. One Lesser Health Poultice cost you 1.14 silver.

To make one Lesser Health Poultice takes one flask and one Elfroot.

The cost of a flask is 1.14 silver and Elfroot 57 copper.

So, it's more expensive to make your own potion. Now I haven't measured this across all potions but I would have if I had been working on making this game.

BioWare, in the next patch, can you perhaps balance this out so that crafting yourself is actually worth it? If you're willing to make the changes, I'd be willing to do the math for free.

[ell46]

I don't suppose by chance you checked to see if you can turn a profit by buying the recipe and making then selling potions etc? I've been wondering for a while if it's worth doing that with many of the balms and salves, but not got round to doing it.

[Wintermist]

I doubt it, since the selling price is always lower than the buying price. The only way to make a profit would be to find all the ingredients and parts needed, and then sell it. I even think you'd make more of a profit then by not making a potion at all.

[Gamegurl]

Making money in general, seems to build up reallllllllllllllllllllly slowly. I need to get the second backpack and a specialty book. How can I generate some more income. I am doing as many side quests as I am able to without truly pissing off my companions and messing with the way I am role playing the game. I'm only level 10 so far but keeping my bruise crew geared ( I don't spend much on them trust me) has me stuck at around 12-15k gold. cry

ty in advance

GG

[Wintermist]

Gamegurl wrote...

Making money in general, seems to build up reallllllllllllllllllllly slowly. I need to get the second backpack and a specialty book. How can I generate some more income. I am doing as many side quests as I am able to without truly pissing off my companions and messing with the way I am role playing the game. I'm only level 10 so far but keeping my bruise crew geared ( I don't spend much on them trust me) has me stuck at around 12-15k gold. cry
ty in advance
GG

12-15,000 gold? I don't even get if you're complaining about something or thinking getting money is easy, and if that's what you think you're in the wrong thread because this thread is about something completely different.

[ell46]

I'm inclined to agree, I did buy a couple of recipes and made some balms with the ingredients I had, but I don't think there are enough ingredients in the game without buying them to even get the money back for buying the recipes.



I've just noticed in your first post, you didn't mention the cost of the agents like corrupter etc that you would also need to make anything.

[AlanC9]

A lesser poultice doesn't need those things.



It's deliberate, I'm sure.Bio doesn't want to have players making money outside of actually doing what they're supposed to be doing. Crafting is there to get more stuff after you've used up what's in the shops.

[crawfs]

making a potent Lyrium poultice is cheaper than buying it

Modifié par crawfs, 25 avril 2010 - 01:24 .

[PhobosBM]

you catch up with the price of buying ingredients with those you find in exploration, for some tier 2 or 3 it could come a bit cheaper, but you'll never make money

as already said, the game is probably done deliberately like this to make sure you dont buy great gear by crafting 10 000 small health potions...

do side quest, and dont buy anything unless you really need it

that said, I think you can make some money with the potent lyrium potion

Modifié par PhobosBM, 25 avril 2010 - 04:52 .

[traversc]

Potent lyrium potion is basically a cheat. It's tantamount to having infinite gold, and I'm pretty sure BW didn't want you to have infinite gold.

[Rhys Cordelle]

I understand the sentiment but the problem is, if they were to allow you to make a profit on potion making then they would have to change the game so that there are no stores with infinite flasks/elf roots/etc, otherwise the whole economy of the game would collapse.



It's really a choice between having as much healing as you need and being able to generate more cash.



I really like how BW has done it, where your money is so limited that you need to plan your purchases wisely, and not just buy up everything available. Too many games make money a trivial thing because they have unlimited encounters and therefore unlimited opportunities to make money.



I do think that crafting items should cost less though. 18 silver for a distillation agent is pretty steep.

[PhobosBM]

the economy is a big part for the difficulty level of the game

[Wintermist]

Oh, I didn't mean for us to make a profit, but I feel that making your own potion should be cheaper than actually buying a complete potion.

[MadDjinn]

ok, I get where you're going.



Cost of supplies should be less than cost of purchase, but cost of sale is not greater than the cost of the supplies? (to prevent infinite gold).



This has it's own RP issue, such as: why can other potion makers make money from this and you can't? Even as is, it's a bit weird.

[PhobosBM]

Wintermist wrote...

Oh, I didn't mean for us to make a profit, but I feel that making your own potion should be cheaper than actually buying a complete potion.

It is! with the stuff that you find while exploring...

[Carmen_Willow]

MadDjinn wrote...

ok, I get where you're going.

Cost of supplies should be less than cost of purchase, but cost of sale is not greater than the cost of the supplies? (to prevent infinite gold).

This has it's own RP issue, such as: why can other potion makers make money from this and you can't? Even as is, it's a bit weird.

Perhaps because the vendors are buying the raw ingredients at wholesale (from some friendly wholesale dealer) and we are buying raw ingredients at retail....(even at the evlven camp).  Kind of like buying yarn to crochet at retail -- you're doing it for "fun" and not to save money on clothes.....

[Wintermist]

The store should sell potions more expensive than what they sell their combined supplies for, because they not only contained all the supplies, someone made the potion too, and it's qualified work. This is why I find it so weird, that you can buy a ready made potion for less than what the actual ingredients cost. I am not saying to lower prices for ingredients, but raise the price of the final product.

[Rhys Cordelle]

Yah. It would be like a store selling coke and empty coke bottles for the same price.

[Schwinni]

I wouldn't call the economy system in DAO "economy system" at all.
There is no trading of the merchants with eachother or with an "unknown" trading system. OK, sometimes their stock is reset or upgraded, but that's it.
In a RPG I think the player should be able to earn money by spending some time in using the skills. In The Witcher you could even make or loose some money by playing dice games.