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[AClockworkMelon]

I recall from BG2 that for each romance there was a single specific time that you had a window to advance things and you had to respond in a very specific way to whatever the given situation was.

Do you think the advancement of romances (and indeed NPC friendships in general) will be more flowing and natural?

[Srikandi715]

Well, since romances in Jade Empire and Mass Effect are more or less similar, my guess is it's the same. Though I'm not sure exactly how much flexibility there was in those, having only played through once.

[Eshaye]

I certainly hope so. I kinda hate that feeling that you have to make the most appropriate comment all the time or risk losing the romance bit.

[Lucy Glitter]

I hope so. One thing I liked in JE was when your interest came up to you and wished you luck. I hope we can see more of that.

[Servant of Nature]

I think so, the friend/lover relationship is supposedly at lot more intertwined now. Like, you can reject sex and still be in 'love' with them, and you can reject an intimate relationship with them without them hating you. I like that. I want to see a friendship grow into something, not straight out flirting and then walking on eggshells to get keep it right.

[AClockworkMelon]

My hope is it's not a one-shot thing. You HAVE to say the right thing at this particular moment or you can't go down that road. Multiple different points where you can advance the romance/friendship are what would make it seem real.

[Darthnemesis2]

I seem to remember David saying that you could choose to turn down a party member's advance, but later choose to re-initiate the romance, so I think you'll be ok.

[AClockworkMelon]

Darthnemesis2 wrote...

I seem to remember David saying that you could choose to turn down a party member's advance, but later choose to re-initiate the romance, so I think you'll be ok.

Yeah, this is what I'm hoping for.

[elijah_kaine]

I actually really liked the BG2 romances I thought they were loads of fun and unexpected and good tension builders. I guess I kind of agree that the whole "you say the wrong thing and it's over" thing is a little much, like you know, people make up for stuff in real life, why not in the game? However I did like that you didn't know exactly when (at least the first time) you were going to get to see more of the romance.



I didn't play Jade Empire so I don't know about that but I didn't like the way that the Romances in Mass Effect worked. Like it always goes up on stage in the conversation when you get done with one of the main missions otherwise they have nothing to say. It's always in the same room, etc, etc, etc.



I hope they make it so you see things happening with the romance outside of a -camp- area. Even if it's like you know, a lover/companion screaming "No!" when the PC dies. Or maybe starting an argument with the PC if he's a little to flirty with an NPC, would just be more fun if we saw the romance come into everything a little more. I think some people may be annoyed by that who knows.

[sidion77]

I hope for a love triangle. The more complex the better I say.

[Rivie]

Yeah, I agree that things shouldn't be "say everything I want or I dump you".... well, except for extreme cases. Like, if you say "I hate you and want you dead." it'll obviously kill the romance. XD But it really looks like we'll get more flexibility in DA, which is awesome.

[Eshaye]

 I think Jade Empire and Mass Effect were easier to maneuver but the shortnesss of the game made the relationship seem a bit rushed. And I don't like that you get the big sexy or kiss scene at the end of the game as a reward, I'm guessing and hoping this actually comes up earlier in Dragon Age and we get to see the relationship turn sour or get better. As if every relationship ends supremely well after the first kiss you know?


Edit: Ahhhhhh! Editing is messed up! It keeps copying words in places where they shouldn't be.

Modifié par Eshaye, 20 octobre 2009 - 05:06 .

[Tamyn]

sidion77 wrote...

I hope for a love triangle. The more complex the better I say.

Complex? If you have a bi PC you can probably get three companions at a time vying for your PC's affection.  

Add barmaid kisses and brothel visits on top of that... Maybe there's a "gigolo" achievement like in Fallout 2?

Modifié par Tamyn, 20 octobre 2009 - 05:10 .

[Foxd1e]

I have to agree with what some people are saying, that they seem much more developed and natural in this game. I have also noticed, particulary in Zevron's character vid, that it seems NPC/NPC relationships can flourish too? This would surely enrich the overall experience.

[Tamyn]

Foxd1e wrote...

I have to agree with what some people are saying, that they seem much more developed and natural in this game. I have also noticed, particulary in Zevron's character vid, that it seems NPC/NPC relationships can flourish too? This would surely enrich the overall experience.

That's not Leliana with shirtless Zevran if that's what you're thinking.

[Linarc]

Darthnemesis2 wrote...

I seem to remember David saying that you could choose to turn down a party member's advance, but later choose to re-initiate the romance, so I think you'll be ok.

hmm, really? I saw him saying that once you turned your companion flirt down, "he would happily be just your friend" (or something along these lines), if you could find the link, it would be nice

EDIT: found one of his posts regarding this:
www.dragonagecentral.com/filtered/page1/

I will point out that there might be the occasional, unprompted flirtatious comment from a potential romantic partner. You have the opportunity to respond in an uninterested fashion when this occurs, of course, and if so then such flirtation will never occur again.

A romance only begins when you either respond to such flirtations with overt interest of your own or whether you make your interest known to them otherwise.

Another two:
www.dragonagecentral.com/single/1233810841
www.dragonagecentral.com/single/1233807960

I'll let those two for the ones who want to read it. Of course, It can have changed, and I'd be happy if it did, because for me, the more chances we have in romances, the better.

Modifié par Linarc, 20 octobre 2009 - 05:39 .

[Red Viking]

Foxd1e wrote...

I have to agree with what some people are saying, that they seem much more developed and natural in this game. I have also noticed, particulary in Zevron's character vid, that it seems NPC/NPC relationships can flourish too? This would surely enrich the overall experience.

That wasn't Leliana.  That was the female PC.

[Darthnemesis2]

www.dragonagecentral.com/single/1242088140
www.dragonagecentral.com/single/1233811620

These are the ones I was thinking of. The first one does say something about a "not right now" response.

Modifié par Darthnemesis2, 20 octobre 2009 - 05:41 .

[Linarc]

ahh, I understood your point, put I interpreted AClockworkMelon comment being about being rude to a romance option and them try to romance them again, not making the companion wait to say what he/she wanted.
different points of view
thank you for the links

[Darthnemesis2]

Linarc wrote...

ahh, I understood your point, put I interpreted AClockworkMelon comment being about being rude to a romance option and them try to romance them again, not making the companion wait to say what he/she wanted.
different points of view
thank you for the links

I thought, though, that the second one I quoted had something else in it specifically saying that you could let them down nicely, but then later decide to pick it back up again.

Oops, I linked to the wrong quote for the second one...
www.dragonagecentral.com/single/1233810841

Modifié par Darthnemesis2, 20 octobre 2009 - 06:03 .

[Linarc]

ah, there is something about it in the second link I posted, let me quote it:

Ha! Naturally. All I mean is that the dialogue options that actually indicate a lack of interest are pretty hard to misinterpret.

Love Interest: "I don't mind following you. The view's pretty good."
PC: "See anything in particular you like?"

That would be flirty, and urge them on. Maybe even start the romance.

Love Interest: "I don't mind following you. The view's pretty good."
PC: "So long as we're not ambushed while you stare at my ***."

That would be pretty neutral. Wouldn't stop the flirting but wouldn't start the romance, either.

Love Interest: "I don't mind following you. The view's pretty good."
PC: "Keep your eyes on the road, got it?"

That would be considered discouragement. No more flirting after that, depending on how serious I considered the line.

you mean something like this?
EDIT: yes it was this one. You are right, if we choose the neutral choice we still have a chance, just can't be rude with them. Good enough to me.

Modifié par Linarc, 20 octobre 2009 - 06:08 .

[Darthnemesis2]

Linarc wrote...

ah, there is something about it in the second link I posted, let me quote it:

Ha! Naturally. All I mean is that the dialogue options that actually indicate a lack of interest are pretty hard to misinterpret.

Love Interest: "I don't mind following you. The view's pretty good."
PC: "See anything in particular you like?"

That would be flirty, and urge them on. Maybe even start the romance.

Love Interest: "I don't mind following you. The view's pretty good."
PC: "So long as we're not ambushed while you stare at my ***."

That would be pretty neutral. Wouldn't stop the flirting but wouldn't start the romance, either.

Love Interest: "I don't mind following you. The view's pretty good."
PC: "Keep your eyes on the road, got it?"

That would be considered discouragement. No more flirting after that, depending on how serious I considered the line.

you mean somethin like this?

Yup, that's the one I meant to quote...

[DalishRanger]

I personally loved the BG2 romances (Jaheira's especially, but I'm probably in the minority for that...), but they were pretty limited in some ways. Still, not bad for their day. If DA:O can manage some more layers to a romance, and not limit it to a camp only (like ME, as others have said), I'll be a very happy fan.

[Cypher0020]

anyone know whath the same sex romance is? I'm really thinking its Morrigan and Zevran myself

[Darthnemesis2]

Cypher0020 wrote...

anyone know whath the same sex romance is? I'm really thinking its Morrigan and Zevran myself

No one knows for sure. Except Bioware and they wont spill any beans.