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[ArawnNox]

So, I'm on my second playthrough with my sexy Surana (current avatar) and I'm trying to play with there being a tug of war between Zevran and Leliana for her affections. I'm not sure who she'll end up with. On my first playthrough, I did the obligatory Cousland/Alistair King and Queen ending, though I'm not sure it was truley an In Character thing to do.

Now, I pose this to all of your, since I'm curious. Who did your Grey Warden end up with (if any) and what roleplay reasons did you have for the relationship?

[KnightofPhoenix]

My "canonical" Warden ended up with Morrigan, though I am not sure how that would help you choose between Zev and Leli.

EDIT: Of course I could explain why he did choose Morrigan, if you so wish.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 25 avril 2010 - 02:46 .

[Cuddlezarro]

iv attempted to do most of the romances... the only one I didnt complete was Leliena's who I ended the relationship via sword to the face



any ways I mostly romance Zevran because im gay and I happen to like the character and sympathize with him, if Zevran wasn't a romance option for guys it would be Morrigan for no roleplaying reasons other than the fact Claudia black's voice is sexy and I like the character

[ejoslin]

Zevran. I love his romance -- it takes some very unexpected turns. Even when my human noble marries Alistair, she still ends up with Zevran. It's that unexpectedly sweet!

Modifié par ejoslin, 25 avril 2010 - 02:50 .

[ArawnNox]

I suppose I should clarify. I wasn't asking why I should romance Leli or Zev.

I meant to ask, of the romancable party memebers, who did your Grey Warden romance and why?

[ArawnNox]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

My "canonical" Warden ended up with Morrigan, though I am not sure how that would help you choose between Zev and Leli.

EDIT: Of course I could explain why he did choose Morrigan, if you so wish.

Please do. :happy:

[Nonvita]

My first character romanced both Zevran and Alistair. In the end she (accidentally) ended up with Zevran, and I was really happy with how it turned out.

I haven't yet tried Morrigan's romance (can't make a decent looking male for some reason), but I really want to. I'll probably never romance Leliana.

I'd put Zevran's romance as my favorite for females.

Edit: All right, I should have been more specific.

I like Zevran's romance because it gives me the most sense of growth throughout it. Not just by Zevran, but by the Warden as well. He's good for Wardens who have emotional baggage--he gives them the chance to see someone who's still positive despite having an arguably worse life than any other character--but he also plays well off of those who are optimistic and hopeful. He himself is far from perfect, but the extent to which he develops over the course of the game is great to see.

Modifié par Nonvita, 25 avril 2010 - 03:03 .

[ejoslin]

Hmmmm, I think I'm understanding your question (though it was answered I thought).



My last play through was a city elf who (as usual) romanced Zevran. Why? Because from the start, he asks about the future. He's honest and upfront, and while what he is isn't always pretty, she can see the kindness that has survived in him despite a horrendous life.



He is the one who will speak up for her, who will give advice, who will try to sway her opinion if he disagrees with what she's doing. Once the romance starts, when companions try to tease him about it, he is obviously very happy to be with her. He is very smart, very savvy, and very funny.



It doesn't hurt that I know how the romance finishes as well. The first time I saw how it finished I was so completely blown away by it, and I still am touched by it.

[Sarah1281]

My HN ended up with Alistair as she wanted to be Queen, my DN ended up with no one because she was upset about Gorim and didn't see a future on the surface, and my EM, DE, and CE all ended up with Zevran as they would never even dream of contributing to the destruction of their species by hooking up with a human. My DC WAS romaning Alistair but it turned sour when she got to Orzammar and realized how much he looked like Bhelen (another reason my DN wouldn't touch him with a ten-foot pole) and she was creeped out by the resemblance to her sister's john and so she ditched him and ended up with Leliana although her romance really creeped me out and her 'well aren't you sweet and attentive' whenever I talked to her annoyed me because it took too long for her to say.

[xedgorex]

On my first playthrough i romanced Morrigan to completion, i haven't finished any other playthrough yet, i get to drakken then itch to play another. But on one other i took Leliana to the point of copulation and then broke up with her. I find both Leliana and Morrigan to be annoying. Leliana is too good goody religious whiney and Morrigan is a brat.



on my next playthrough (as a paladin) im going to Romance Zev and Leliana (as a male) (finish with leliana)



Mostly because i think Zev is an awesome character, but also for more shallow reasons why i'll finish with Leliana.

1. i want the acheivement

2. i cant help but mold my characters after me, and although i love Zev i just cant finish his romance on a guy, maybe one day i'll roll a lady and finish it off.



D: i know i know shame on me.

[LadyDamodred]

HNF and Elf Mage romance Alistair.

DEF, CEF and CEM romance Zevran.

HNM romances Morrigan.



I know, I know, real original on my part.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Well my Cousland was groomed with the concepts of duty towards others, duty towards his nation...etc. But while he does not reject those notions, he is somewhat self-centered and craves for a sort of freedom he never really had. For him, Morrigan is the epitom of that freedom. So that caught his interest. In addition to being very curious about witches and anything out of the ordinary.

Also, there is her personality. The Cousland was raised amongst nobles, a boring bunch and even hypocritical in many ways. Morrigan on the other hand is blunt and honest and that's refreshing for him. She is also intelligent, sarcastic and cunning, traits he admires as he has them as well. They might not agree with each other all the time, but he identifies with her the most.

Also, he was intrigued at how a seeming barbarian could look and sound so elegant and graceful (in an exotic and unique way). He loved her voice as well. And her physique in general, she is obviously beautiful. Especially her eyes, even if they were at first a bit unsettling.

And that's why my Cousland didn't even need to think aobut it, Morrigan caught all of his attention. And that's a very short summary. I could write whole essays of why Morrigan is awesome

[Raiil]

If I had to choose between Zevran or Leliana, it'd be Zevran. He has more depth to the romance and he has better banter.



In the game, aside from meta-gaming for a cheevo, my characters invariably romance Alistair. My favourite ones are my fem!Amell and my fem!Mahariel. My Mahariel is a curious, open person who tends to share the same viewpoints of Alistair- she had a mild crush on Leliana until she started spewing that crap about elves. My Amell is rambunctious and sarcastic and has a similar sense of humour as Alistair, and there's the whole romantic Templar/Mage thing going on. It helps that I rolled Mahariel as non-human hating, and my Amell tends to judge people on their first impressions, and Alistair is one of the few who made a good one. If she was going to romance anyone, it would have been him or no-one at all. * shrugs *

[webbedfeet]

Dang, I'm *supposed* to be working.

All right. I have one 'canonical' warden, but he has two character tracks. He's an Amell. He's one of those mages who think their situation sucks but decided to be contented with it, and was unpleasantly surprised when he got dragged out of the Tower on Harrowing Day. Not that he'll admit to enjoying the role of Grey Warden. But he did. Now, the tracks, respectively :

Track 1 : Told Irving about Jowan and thus was plagued with what-could-have-beens if he had handled the case differently. The guilt-trip caused him to talk to Morrigan a lot and was glad for her company as a mage, and as she was an apostate he felt like he's correcting his mistake somehow. Realized (that is, I actually realized he was really happy) that making Morrigan smile makes him ridiculously happy, and so falls in love with her despite his misgivings. She filled a part of him that wanted to shout the rules back to the Circle but can't and won't because it's home and he can't hate it, and he's glad to be with her. The whole point of the development track, as it turned out, was the need to follow what he knows is right (starting from the Circle rules) versus what he really wants (starting from apostate magic), which fits the ending of Morrigan's romance track perfectly.

Track 2 : Helped Jowan (it was really 50/50 back there and I liked playing mages so I didn't mind the replay) and felt completely bitter about what happened. Shied off Morrigan due to wariness of apostates, but is friends enough with her because he's still curious and mage-biased. Eventually became a blood mage to prove both Jowan and Irving wrong. Ended up with Zevran in spite of himself, due to 1) talking to the dang elf is absurd and takes his mind off the stress, 2) felt like he has something in common over the whole gilded cage/friend's betrayal issue, which nobody else seems to understand and 3) Zev somehow knew what he needed before he realized it himself, and I don't mean the sex. (It was one of those runs where you actually turn Zevran down until the very end.) Everyone else also judges his kind at one point or the other, however indirectly, except Zev. That means something to him. (Wynne misses the point, and in this run he really didn't want to listen to Morrigan's anti-Circle talk.) Zev's behaviour being weirdly flattering also helps.

Now you know more than you need to! Lel doesn't enter the picture, unfortunately, since Chantry = No. The one CE girl I have romancing Lel did it....because she doesn't trust humans, and Lel was the only person who was consistently nice, despite her racism. CE's also quite religious, and she admired how devout Lel was, despite being bewildered about her shoe obsession. Lel was the one she really opened up to.

DC romanced Alistair. I think she did it for the lulz because he was so innocent and cute and she was firmly in the not innocent camp, but it grew serious when she realized how earnest he was and well, why not? DC did things for simple reasons. Life's short and life sucks. She was also a Duster. If someone offers her a rose and call her one of the last beautiful things in this ugly world, she can't help but be perplexed and follow him up on that thread.

Modifié par webbedfeet, 25 avril 2010 - 03:41 .

[Gilsa]

My elf mage, city elf, and dalish elf all romanced Zevran due to inherent mistrust of humans, their race can get bred out if they mate with non-elves, and because Zevran represented a freedom from the shackles of the Grey Wardens. (I could not come up with a reason why they'd be raring to join the wardens even though only the dalish was forcibly conscripted.) If Zevran could find a way to break free of the Crows, maybe someday there's a way to honorably complete one's duty to the Grey Wardens and break free of that.

I did a queen cousland playthrough for no reason other than to see if it was the "ultimate" playthrough. It was an interesting experience, but it wasn't the Alistair that I originally knew when I first romanced him on my dwarf. I can't explain it. The lines are the same, but it just didn't feel the same.

Have not done a human mage because I already did the mage origin with an elf. If I were to do the human mage eventually, I'd go for Leliana this time. I like the idea of possibly being her new Marjolaine.

As for my canon warden, the dwarf noble, I prefer Alistair because I like the "us against the world" theme. They have similar royal backgrounds so she can empathize with Alistair better. She lost her whole family, so to speak, in one fell swoop and understands what Alistair finds himself against. The Grey Wardens had become her new family and she aimed to shield Alistair from the same mess she once found herself in. She felt guilty over Gorim becoming collateral damage in the political fallout in the noble origin and was heartbroken, but relieved to find that Gorim was able to rebuild his life in Denerim. Gorim is a good soul, still wishing Aeducan all the best. Alistair is a lot like Gorim in freely sharing his admiration of Aeducan and being open with his feelings. Aeducan is apprehensive over her future with Alistair, keeping in mind what had already happened to Gorim along with not knowing what the future held for them as Grey Wardens. She planned on returning to Orzammar and focusing on the darkspawn threat there. It's highly unlikely that she can just waltz back with a human lover in tow since that kind of thing is frowned upon. She chose the "I don't know what kind of future we have" line when Alistair asked. The odds seemed stacked against their relationship and it was, but to paraphrase Wynne -- better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all. Enjoy it for the time being, etc.

And no one for the dwarf commoner. She doesn't need arm-candy!

Modifié par Gilsa, 25 avril 2010 - 03:34 .

[sylvanaerie]

I usually romance Alistair, mostly because of the 4 companions its possible to romance, his personality fits best and I find him the most appealing visually. My favorite was a non racist Dalish who fell hard for him. Didn't want to share him with some Bannorn Bimbette or Queen Glacier. So she put Anora on the throne, had Al do the DR with Morrigan (cause she could accept that and Morri was her BFF) and rode off into the sunset with Al to be GW's.



My Cousland boy romanced Leliana (Cause I mostly wanted a happy ending) and he liked that she was truly devout, not just paying lip service to the Chantry. Plus she's got a sweet voice and accent he fell pretty hard for.



Morrigan and Zevran make great friends but I just don't find them appealing as romances. (though I have done them at least to get the achievements).

[Taritu]

Usually Leiliana or Zevran. Leiliana is just very sweet. A little cracked, but whatever. I like the way she babbles, it takes my mind off of grimmer things. For my CEF it also was a nice sidestep/rebellion - romance a girl so the whole "human baby" thing is moot, and going with a girl seems slightly rebellious, which she was.



As for Zevran, he seems to love you fiercely, he makes me laugh, he's had a bad life but doesn't let it get him down too much, and really, that first conversation is brilliant: anyone who can joke that way when he's likely to get killed is good by me. My DCF really liked him because she saw his background as similiar to hers. He could understand what being a heavy for a crime boss was like, what growing up in poverty was like, and so on. And he was, though not cruel, just as ruthless as she was—you do what has to be done to get the job done.

[Jakia]

Well, it depends on what character. HNF romanced Alistair because he made her laugh, even when she lost everything and kept facing bleak and terrible situations. The fact that she was bossy anyway made Alistair a good choice for her because, hey, she doesn't mind leading or making tough decisions. She had no problem announcing to the landsmeet she was going to marry Alistair and crown herself Queen--she's got enough balls for both of them.



CEF, on the other hand, wouldn't touch Alistair with a ten foot poll. He was waayyyy too serious, and, you know, human. She romanced Zev with the intention of just having a casual, sexy relationship, but ended up falling hard and fast for him unexpectedly.



DEM fell for Leliana. As a Dalish, he had always been fascinated by stories, considering his people have none. Leliana's a bard. 1 + 1 = 2, no?



Surana had the luck of romancing both Zevran and Morrigan. He romanced Morrigan, but then they broke up (he couldn't stand her hating on the circle anymore >.<). He became attracted to Zev because he was a fellow elf who Surana felt a kinship towards and was attracted to. Despite breaking up with Morrigan, doing the dark ritual with her was one of the most touching moments of his life.



Amell reluctantly romanced Alistair. At first, she didn't want anything to do with him because he was, you know, a Templar. But he wormed his way into her heart eventually. And then he dumped her. She was so upset she went and threw herself at an archdemon. Of course, if she had known Anders was going to show up a few month later, perhaps she would have lived after all...



DNF romanced Alistair at first, but then they had a very angry breakup preLandsmeet at Redcliffe. First she got angry he didn't tell her he was a prince (what the hell, Alistair? We just came from Orzammar! You know I'm a princess, why wouldn't you have said something!) When she killed Connor, that just really killed the romance there. After that, she just gave up. It wasn't worth the headache, she thought.



DCM romanced Morrigan. Because evil crazy psycho people belong with evil crazy psycho people! Like attracts like! I can imagine my DC and Morrigan absolutely torturing Alistair in as many ways as possible and then doing something sickingly sweet, then go torture orphans to prove they're still evil.

[Lady Jess]

LadyDamodred wrote...

HNF and Elf Mage romance Alistair.
DEF, CEF and CEM romance Zevran.
HNM romances Morrigan.

I know, I know, real original on my part.

You and me both Lady D...Except I never play males...lol

Elf mage with Alistair because she was raised in the circle, and doesn't know, nor really CARE about her elven roots.

City/Dalish Elves go for Zevran, because for the city elf, he would understand her hardships, and for Dalish...well he kinda has a thing for them, and she'd never touch a human.

Human Female, Human Mage...Alistair. I have the mod that lets any one marry alistair, but i can only take it as far as a human mage.

I can't say I have a favorite, they both have their endearing and squee worthy traits, and are very fulfilling for my girls.

[asaiasai]

All my characters are female, i have 15 completed plays, and except for the few times i needed to get an achievment i always romance Leliana, and i also make Leliana accept that she is a bard and loves it. My Naughty naughty little girl.



Asai

[LadyDamodred]

You know, Leliana is the one romance I cannot stand. She drives me up the wall. >.> And I tried, I really did. But romancing her was just so agonizing. Have I missed something about her that makes it less awful?

[JBurke]

asaiasai wrote...

All my characters are female, i have 15 completed plays, and except for the few times i needed to get an achievment i always romance Leliana, and i also make Leliana accept that she is a bard and loves it. My Naughty naughty little girl.

Asai

Exact same situation here. I resorted to a mod in order to get the romance with Morrigan and the romances with all the men were quick cut scene moments followed by a loading from a previous point and then going back to Leliana after the dirty deed of achievement hunting was over. Not going to argue though, I have all the achievements now and can focus only on Leliana on new characters.

[ArawnNox]

LadyDamodred wrote...

You know, Leliana is the one romance I cannot stand. She drives me up the wall. >.> And I tried, I really did. But romancing her was just so agonizing. Have I missed something about her that makes it less awful?

One of the things I find wonderfully fasinating about the game is players' vastly different reactions to characters. It's kindof like art.

Thanks to everyone who's contributed just far. It's a fun read.

[CalJones]

Most of my characters end up with Zevran. He's fun and easy-going but surprisingly deep at the end of it.
I've had two romances with Leli - the female one ended up happily with my city elf girl remaining with the Wardens and Leli at her side. The male ended the relationship and married Anora. Of the two female romances I preferred Morrigan, troubled though it is. I just related to her more (I am very sceptical of religion, for starters, and then there's Leli's creepy stalker butterfly conversation...)
The only one that didn't really work for me, though, was Alistair. I just find his character rather young and puppyish, and whilst he's quite fun to have around, he just doesn't do anything for me. Still, I've tried romancing him a few times but never managed to make it until the end of the game. My arcane mage married him off to Anora (for the good of Fereldan) and then made the Ultimate Sacrifice. My Dalish was hoping they could both end up as Wardens together but despite telling him she was backing Anora, Alistair declared himself king (I made the mistake of letting Alistair kill Loghain - apparently that's a big no if you want Alistair to remain a warden) and dumped her. Being the only shem she ever trusted, she was devastated, so she let him kill the archdemon and then went back to her clan. Don't think I'll bother with him again.

Modifié par CalJones, 25 avril 2010 - 05:47 .

[Sarah1281]

Well that's cerainly one way to circumvent the wrong candidate making himself King.