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[Commissar Gash]

Sand King wrote...

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

Good, please let me read the first chapter before uploading so I can see if you haven't made any mistakes with the canon. After that you can just put them online.
What do you thibnk about the UPSC meets the Council short? It's on the previous page I think. I may finish it today, I'm tired (it's only 9:24pm, but I had a boring day at school), so I'm not really in the shape to write the main story, but the short is easier, so I may finish it today.

Once the first chapter is done I'll run it by you. Haven't read the UPSC meets the Council yet, but I think I'll do that now.

Remember that when I wrote that I was half asleep, so some things may be strange.

[Festi]

Privateerkev wrote...

heavy risk...

But where's my priiiiize
I'll have to agree w/ Privateerkev.  I don't mind actual fan based discusion of Jacob and I don't not like him as a character but honestly I liked our epic 100 page on topic discusion.  I need a place to express the good stuff or I'll get spaced

I hope we can coexist but I didn't come here to talk.

[Commissar Gash]

I've made a UPSC recruitement poster that will be used by UPSC later in the story, using Sand King's poster.
Let's see who gets it.


I've started to write the second part of UPSC meets the Council short, but I'm not sure if I finish it tomight, it's not long, but I want to improve the quality.

Modifié par gashgfjaskgfkagh, 13 mai 2010 - 01:03 .

[Commissar Gash]

Festi wrote...

Privateerkev wrote...

heavy risk...

But where's my priiiiize
I'll have to agree w/ Privateerkev.  I don't mind actual fan based discusion of Jacob and I don't not like him as a character but honestly I liked our epic 100 page on topic discusion.  I need a place to express the good stuff or I'll get spaced

I hope we can coexist but I didn't come here to talk.

Don't worry if you flame Jacob you'll be spaced, not if you don't express the good stuff.

I think Privateerkev had revived the Harbringer vs The Priiize thread to continue the piramid quoting.
We are trying to improve our relationship with the Tali thread and they just started to taking us seriously (they thought this was a joke thread) and if this thread changes into a joke thread all the hard work of our Ambassador will be undone. 

This thread is a serious fan thread now and that's why I disapprove of Jacob piramide quotes, don't get me wrong I don't have anything against The Priiize, but I don't think it will help this thread.

[Festi]

^ Thanks for the heads up, I hadn't noticed the revival. I enjoy the cleaver use of Jacob quotes...yes, clever and full of delicious good stuff...

[Commissar Gash]

Festi wrote...

^ Thanks for the heads up, I hadn't noticed the revival. I enjoy the cleaver use of Jacob quotes...yes, clever and full of delicious good stuff...

Enjoy the good stuff in the Harbringer vs The Priiize thread Festi!

Modifié par gashgfjaskgfkagh, 12 mai 2010 - 10:26 .

[Commissar Gash]

I have a question for you: What kind of loyalty mission would you make for Jacob?



I think I'll make something about his years with the Corsairs and in that mission you'll discover more things about Jacob's past and also when you've finished his loyalty mission he will open up more.

In that way you can make him more appealing to the masses without changing his character too much.

[bandfred]

Jacob's theme kinda reminded me of pirates for some reason.



I liked it.

[Festi]

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

I have a question for you: What kind of loyalty mission would you make for Jacob?

I think I'll make something about his years with the Corsairs and in that mission you'll discover more things about Jacob's past and also when you've finished his loyalty mission he will open up more.
In that way you can make him more appealing to the masses without changing his character too much.

This is actually a point I have thought about.  When I think of Jacob I think of priiiiize mainly.  However, I thought Jacob had some potential and it's not his fault it wasn't used.  They should have played out his attitude more, for instance, when you meet him he tries to convey how he doesn't trust Cerberous but he works for them anyway.  That leads me to 2 conclusions.  Maybe this guy isn't so bad and maybe I can trust him or this guy is a hypocryte and might stab me in the back.  A loyalty mission involving his conflict with his position in Cerberous and some more about how he came to be there would have resolved some issues and made him a stronger character.  I did not play the mini Jacob game and have no intention too, imo you can't just throw down a character and expect it to build itself.  Ofcourse, a loyalty mission would need lots of good stuff.... and priiiize....

[Sand King]

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

Whats up with the Iris glyph?

[Commissar Gash]

Sand King wrote...

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

Whats up with the Iris glyph?

Ah yes, 'The Forerunner Iris Glyph'....
You have to figure it out by yourself.
Have you read the UPSC meets the Council part 1? I'll finish part 2 soon and then I'm starting to write the main story, chpter 1 will be propably online tonight (GMT +1, CET) or tommorow, I'm making the main story better then the short, that's more of a warming up.

Modifié par gashgfjaskgfkagh, 13 mai 2010 - 11:02 .

[Commissar Gash]

After a discussion with one of The Priiize supporters I've changed the name of this thread to Hit'em with The Good Stuff, to prevent any future problems.

I've finished The UPSC meets The Council short, this fic is a warming up for me before I start writing the real Fan Fiction with Jacob. For the people who are interested you can download the fic in a Word document here.

I'll be starting to write the main story today.

[Privateerkev]

Fans of speaking in "priiize" quotes are more than welcome in the Harbinger/Jacob romance thread.

And I'll do my best to direct those who want a more serious Jacob discussion over here.

Sorry it had to end like this but it is probably for the best. Two different threads will allow both to be more streamlined and on-topic. And the two seem to have mainly seperate fanbases that are there for very different reasons.

Good luck and I'm glad to see Jacob get a little more respect around here. Every character deserves a thread where people can discuss them with other like-minded folks.

[Commissar Gash]

Privateerkev wrote...

Fans of speaking in "priiize" quotes are more than welcome in the Harbinger/Jacob romance thread.

And I'll do my best to direct those who want a more serious Jacob discussion over here.

Sorry it had to end like this but it is probably for the best. Two different threads will allow both to be more streamlined and on-topic. And the two seem to have mainly seperate fanbases that are there for very different reasons.

Good luck and I'm glad to see Jacob get a little more respect around here. Every character deserves a thread where people can discuss them with other like-minded folks.

You're always welcome here to discuss Jacob Privateerkev.

I'm glad the whole problem was solved fast and without any problems.

[Pacifien]

Now that we have moved beyond the priiize, I feel it is time to throw my support for Jacob. As a comrade-in-arms.

Jacob and Grunt on the Derelict Reaper are gold. In the immortal words of an Eclipse Mercenary, "Burn, ****!"

[Commissar Gash]

Pacifien wrote...

Now that we have moved beyond the priiize, I feel it is time to throw my support for Jacob. As a comrade-in-arms.
Jacob and Grunt on the Derelict Reaper are gold. In the immortal words of an Eclipse Mercenary, "Burn, ****!"

I'm happy to see an another Jacob supporter! Welcome!

[Onyx Jaguar]

The other threads fear our organization and commitment. Jacob should be pleased.

[Commissar Gash]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

The other threads fear our organization and commitment. Jacob should be pleased.

I'm sure he will. We're the only one with an Ambassador and military ranks.

[Pacifien]

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...
I have a question for you: What kind of loyalty mission would you make for Jacob?

I think I'll make something about his years with the Corsairs and in that mission you'll discover more things about Jacob's past and also when you've finished his loyalty mission he will open up more.
In that way you can make him more appealing to the masses without changing his character too much.

The loyalty missions were the make or break point for possibly all of the squadmates in the game. People who didn't like Jack suddenly felt sympathy for her. People suddenly found themselves lost in the harsh grey world that Mordin lived in with the STG. Miranda became a human being. Samara's grief over Morinth became palpable.

Jacob's loyalty mission was a lost opportunity. You knew going into the mission that Jacob didn't much like his father, and you leave the mission knowing Jacob doesn't much like his father. The details of the mission itself leave no room for elements of grey, you're pretty much left little choice but to be disgusted with Ronald Taylor's actions. Perhaps if they hadn't thrown in the whole ten-year delay and issue became the morality of subjecting the crew to a possibly irreversible decay for the sake of having someone left to work on the beacon. Instead, it was subjecting the crew to the decay for as long as possible while living in a juvenile fantasy -- there isn't much grey in that.

I'd have preferred a completely different mission altogether. Jacob makes a big deal about not wanting red tape to get in the way of action. A mission could be designed showing the implications of action without thinking. It would serve as a reminder that, while he's with Cerberus because they promise immediate action, there are unforeseen consequences. Another mission could put him up against the consequences of being affiliated with Cerberus as well -- Jacob wants to be remembered for doing the right thing in the end. However, doing the right thing with the wrong organization shows that sometimes there are no rewards for doing the right thing.

Eh. Or maybe just have something to do with his time in the Corsairs. Or against Batarians. Keep it simple.

[Commissar Gash]

Jacob's loyalty mission really sucked. He didn't even had his moment (Miranda meeting her sister, Tali finding her father's body, Mordin talking about the Genophage by the dead Krogan female, Jack talking about her past etc.).

It would make more sense if Jacob loved his father and then when he dicovered what he has done he would be devasted. Now it's more of an "Father, I'm dissapoint." moment.

[Collider]

The thing with Jacob's loyalty mission is that we learned nothing new about Jacob. That's the problem, Jacob felt very sideline and side character compared to the other loyalty missions.

[Commissar Gash]

LuckyIronAxe wrote...

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

Jacob's loyalty mission really sucked. He didn't even had his moment (Miranda meeting her sister, Tali finding her father's body, Mordin talking about the Genophage by the dead Krogan female, Jack talking about her past etc.).
It would make more sense if Jacob loved his father and then when he dicovered what he has done he would be devasted. Now it's more of an "Father, I'm dissapoint." moment.

I really liked his Loyalty Mission actually, it was very messed up and I love the contrast between Ronald and Jacob Taylor the game portrayed. Jacob is paragon shepard lite, while Ronald is pretty much one of the most messed up individuals that I've come across in the entire galaxy.

Plus you got to reval in the unspoken dialogue, Ronald Taylor didn't even agnology his only son, he was so caught up with trying to throw up lie after lie to cover up his mess he made, and Jacob figured out that this monster is indeed, his father, deep. 

I never looked at his loyalty mission like this, but I gues you're right.
Have you read UPSC meets the Council spin-off? It's a little thing I wrote as a warming up for the main story.
I'll probably upload the first chapter tommorow.

[Commissar Gash]

Collider wrote...

The thing with Jacob's loyalty mission is that we learned nothing new about Jacob. That's the problem, Jacob felt very sideline and side character compared to the other loyalty missions.

Only if they atleast gave him his own moment like Tali finding her fathers body or Miranda meeting her sister that kind of moments make the character more interesting.

Modifié par gashgfjaskgfkagh, 13 mai 2010 - 07:45 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

I think Jacob's loyalty mission was the one you were suppose to do first, almost like a tutorial loyalty mission as it were because you can't really screw it up and it had better level design than Miranda's.