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[Commissar Gash]

Some Dude wrote...

Awesome, just pure awesome

You should use the fixed version, there's a small error in the first one.

And now let's get back to Jacob...

Modifié par gashgfjaskgfkagh, 19 mai 2010 - 10:33 .

[CC-Tron]

LuckyIronAxe wrote...

Some Dude wrote...

Umm....
*Thinks for a second*
Who would win in a toe-to-toe fight, Garrus or Jacob?

Difficult one, Jacob because of his biotics, a biotic combatant has a huge edge over a non-biotic, but if it was just man vs. man, no biotics allowed, got to go with Garrus, he's bigger, has more reach, and is Turian (typically stronger than humans).

I've haven't seen Turians display any superior strength. Shephard pretty easily bounced 3 Turians in the After-life club. They are probably a little stronger on average which isn't saying much. Jacob is not average. I don't know who'd win until I see it.

Modifié par CC-Tron, 19 mai 2010 - 10:45 .

[Commissar Gash]

CC-Tron wrote...

LuckyIronAxe wrote...

Some Dude wrote...

Umm....
*Thinks for a second*
Who would win in a toe-to-toe fight, Garrus or Jacob?

Difficult one, Jacob because of his biotics, a biotic combatant has a huge edge over a non-biotic, but if it was just man vs. man, no biotics allowed, got to go with Garrus, he's bigger, has more reach, and is Turian (typically stronger than humans).

I've haven't seen Turians display any superior strength. Shephard pretty easily bounced 3 Turians in the After-life club. They are probably a little stronger on average which isn't saying much. Jacob is not average. I don't know who'd until I see it.

But Batman was beating the crap out off Huamns and Garrus is the Baturian, so I'm 100% he will kick Jacob's ass in a melee fight.
And now we're done with the vs and we ill move on to another thing (any ideas?) too make sure this thread won't be locked.

Modifié par gashgfjaskgfkagh, 19 mai 2010 - 10:46 .

[Radahldo]

I've haven't seen Turians display any superior strength. Shephard pretty easily bounced 3 Turians in the After-life club. They are probably a little stronger on average which isn't saying much. Jacob is not average. I don't know who'd until I see it.

Its more like how Vulcans are supposed to be quite stronger than humans, but for a variety of reasons, its rarely showcased in the shows or literature.

The biggest example was Saren suspending Shepard by his collar on Virmire.



Shepard also easily kills a bunch of Krogan during the Patriach mission, but obviously, hes not stronger than them. just knows where to kick punch/kick them.

[CC-Tron]

Radahldo wrote...

I've haven't seen Turians display any superior strength. Shephard pretty easily bounced 3 Turians in the After-life club. They are probably a little stronger on average which isn't saying much. Jacob is not average. I don't know who'd until I see it.

Its more like how Vulcans are supposed to be quite stronger than humans, but for a variety of reasons, its rarely showcased in the shows or literature.
The biggest example was Saren suspending Shepard by his collar on Virmire.

Shepard also easily kills a bunch of Krogan during the Patriach mission, but obviously, hes not stronger than them. just knows where to kick punch/kick them.

Saren had extensive cybernetics added to his body so he may not be the best example. I've never seen a regular Turian display that power.

[CC-Tron]

Is there any way to complete Jacob's loyalty mission and not get his loyalty?

[Commissar Gash]

CC-Tron wrote...

Is there any way to complete Jacob's loyalty mission and not get his loyalty?

I don't think it's possible, I think that somone mentioned it in this thread before.

[Sand King]

CC-Tron wrote...

Is there any way to complete Jacob's loyalty mission and not get his loyalty?

Nope

[Radahldo]

Saren had extensive cybernetics added to his body so he may not be the best example. I've never seen a regular Turian display that power.

Garrus also effortlessly drags along Harkin with one hand in such a way that his feet are touching the ground, it seems.
That would require a great deal a strength, especially with how fluid it all was.

Modifié par Radahldo, 19 mai 2010 - 11:20 .

[Commissar Gash]

PLEASE PEOPLE NO VERSUS DISCUSSION! IT'S AGAINST THE RULES AND I DON'T WANT TO GET THIS THREAD LOCKED!

[Radahldo]

I wasnt doing versus discussion, I was just clarifying something I understand about Turians.

[Sand King]

Back on topic:

What class do you think has the best chemistry with Jacob's skill set?

[Commissar Gash]

Radahldo wrote...

I wasnt doing versus discussion, I was just clarifying something I understand about Turians.

I understand that, but soon it will end in a versus discussion. I bet Woo isn't in good mood after locking the versus threads, so I'm not taking any risks.

[Commissar Gash]

Sand King wrote...

Back on topic:

What class do you think has the best chemistry with Jacob's skill set?

I honestly have no idea, but I haven't played alot with the classes except the Soldier and Soldier can take care of himself without real assist.

[Sand King]

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

I honestly have no idea, but I haven't played alot with the classes except the Soldier and Soldier can take care of himself without real assist.

True. I have only really done Soldier and Vanguard myself.

Modifié par Sand King, 20 mai 2010 - 12:41 .

[CC-Tron]

Infiltrator is the only class I play and it doesn't matter who I bring along because I'm doing most of the work any way. The team mates primary purpose is to shoot the enemy with ammo/powers, distract enemies away from me and stay alive. I like Jacob because he's one of the few who can actually stay alive in combat with heavy barrier and scorch enemies with the shot gun. I occasionally use the others like Miranda for whatever powers they have.

[mosor]

Sand King wrote...

Back on topic:

What class do you think has the best chemistry with Jacob's skill set?

Played all the classes on insanity and used Jacob a lot so I will rank them from my experience.

1. Sentinel-Absolute best pairing. You got warp, you need someone with pull. Jacob gives you that, plus squad incendiary which makes him a kick ass squadie for any mission dealing with organics.

2. Adept. Very good pairing. Gives you the pull to help set up your warp bombs. gives you the fire ammo

3. Infiltrator. Also a very good pairing. You're probably brining Miranda a lot, might as well bring Jacob too for his squad incindiary and his pull. Pull field,, and your own incineration blast are great for husk control. Arm yourself with a predator with cryo to take out the stragglers and you're kicking ass.

4. Engineer is a good pairing. Worked out well, mostly because of his fire ammo, and secondly I brought miranda a lot with me and he pairs well with her.

5. Soldier, so so pairing. Soldier has inferno ammo, and the choice of other squaddies who also have pull like Samara. Still doable. Pull field is still great crowd control.

6. Vanguard. Absolute worst pairing since they have the exact same skills. The only good thing about jacob here is that he provides squad incediary for the early missions, and even that isn't entirely necessary.

Modifié par mosor, 20 mai 2010 - 12:56 .

[Sand King]

Question Two.

In a future appearance pack would you like Jacob to have his ME:Galaxie appearance or something new?

[Pacifien]

I agree that whenever your Shepard has the ability for warp explosions, Jacob is an ideal squadmate to have. However, outside of that, he becomes situational just like many squadmates for me. When I played an Infiltrator (where I actually took Miranda rarely), his greatest asset for me was his incendiary ammo. However, there were only certain times when I wanted that ammo active; otherwise, I preferred squad cryo ammo. Same issue as a Vanguard.

I don't know how he fits with my Engineer. I play my Engineer for CQC, so what I need are other squadmates doing crowd control. Jacob isn't one of my preferred crowd controllers.

As a soldier, which is not my favorite class by any means, the concept of squadmate goes out the window. What squadmate? I'm a one-man killing machine.

[Commissar Gash]

Pacifien wrote...

As a soldier, which is not my favorite class by any means, the concept of squadmate goes out the window. What squadmate? I'm a one-man killing machine.

That's true and that's why I love the Soldier so much, I've played GTA, Saints Row, Halo, Fallout 3 and Oblivion alot and in that games you are a one man army, especially in GTA and SR. If I can have guns, then I rather play as a one man army class.
In classic WRPG's I'm always a Mage, but that's because sword<magic<guns

[lovgreno]

Jacob do have a few cool lines as well wich is a good reason to bring him along. "Get over here!"

[Commissar Gash]

Gravity is a one mean MUTHA! is my personal Jacob favorite

I'm not choosing my squadmates because of their usefullness, I choose the ones like and that ends up with Garrus, Jacob. Miranda, Grunt, Mordin and Legion when I get him beign the only squadmates I ever use, I don't care about the rest.

Now I've added Legion to my squad with save editor and I always have him with me.



I brought him to Horizon with Miranda, but becuase he doesn't have any dialogue on Horizon Miri was talking with herself (she used both of her lines, the question and the anwser).

[JJames74]

mosor wrote...

Sand King wrote...

Back on topic:

What class do you think has the best chemistry with Jacob's skill set?

Played all the classes on insanity and used Jacob a lot so I will rank them from my experience.

1. Sentinel-Absolute best pairing. You got warp, you need someone with pull. Jacob gives you that, plus squad incendiary which makes him a kick ass squadie for any mission dealing with organics.

2. Adept. Very good pairing. Gives you the pull to help set up your warp bombs. gives you the fire ammo

3. Infiltrator. Also a very good pairing. You're probably brining Miranda a lot, might as well bring Jacob too for his squad incindiary and his pull. Pull field,, and your own incineration blast are great for husk control. Arm yourself with a predator with cryo to take out the stragglers and you're kicking ass.

4. Engineer is a good pairing. Worked out well, mostly because of his fire ammo, and secondly I brought miranda a lot with me and he pairs well with her.

5. Soldier, so so pairing. Soldier has inferno ammo, and the choice of other squaddies who also have pull like Samara. Still doable. Pull field is still great crowd control.

6. Vanguard. Absolute worst pairing since they have the exact same skills. The only good thing about jacob here is that he provides squad incediary for the early missions, and even that isn't entirely necessary.

Excellent assessment mosor.  I have not played as sentinal or engineer yet but he is a great pairing for adept and infiltrator, okay with soldier, not needed as vanguard.

[Sand King]

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

I'm not choosing my squadmates because of their usefullness, I choose the ones like and that ends up with Garrus, Jacob. Miranda, Grunt, Mordin and Legion when I get him beign the only squadmates I ever use, I don't care about the rest.
 

I do the same thing. I prefer a squad of people I like over the "useful" for the mission.

[Commissar Gash]

Sand King wrote...

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

I'm not choosing my squadmates because of their usefullness, I choose the ones like and that ends up with Garrus, Jacob. Miranda, Grunt, Mordin and Legion when I get him beign the only squadmates I ever use, I don't care about the rest.
 

I do the same thing. I prefer a squad of people I like over the "useful" for the mission.

And of course some squadmates have special dialogue, like Legion on Tali's recruitmnt mission. I loved that part.