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KendallX23 wrote...

ad Overload too...can be useful if u have no one else with it..though in ME2 i usually had Jacob paired with Miranda

And that's why he doesn't have it, I've tried to keep the talents at the same number as ME2, but since ME3 will get more RPG elements we might get extra talents.

I you could add Warp to it Jacob will be the most usefull squadmate, ever.:wizard:

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hmm...well he already is in ME2..at least in my opinion...the closest to him in ME2 was..yes u guessed it..Miranda....i want a 3 squadmates in ME3 so i can add Ashley and we will have the perfect setup

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KendallX23 wrote...

hmm...well he already is in ME2..at least in my opinion...the closest to him in ME2 was..yes u guessed it..Miranda....i want a 3 squadmates in ME3 so i can add Ashley and we will have the perfect setup

Miranda is the most useful squadmate for me, I'm a Soldier so Warp and Overload are perfect for me.

Pull is usefull to get them out of cover, but that's less usefull now since I've modded my game I have all Collector ship weapons and two bonus talents (Geth Shield Boost+Slam) I storm at my enemies with the Claymore, I activate Adrenaline Rush and blow their heads away, if they get my shields down I use shield boost. Very fun playstyle on easy (I know Vanguard class exists) :wizard:

I don't think Ashley would like to join me, I've cheated on her (with Miri) and I'm planning to visit TiM, smoke some cigars, drink some alcohol and plan how Humanity will take over the Galaxy, she won't like that

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u are evil....

on a side note i never use adrenaline rush and i get around on all dificulties....i also have slam and i use it with Jacob's pull....one enemy is mine...a second one is his...teamwork at it's best

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KendallX23 wrote...

u are evil....
on a side note i never use adrenaline rush and i get around on all dificulties....i also have slam and i use it with Jacob's pull....one enemy is mine...a second one is his...teamwork at it's best

I'm not evil, I just want to secure Humanity's domination in the Galaxy and if that means I have to shoot some people in the face, so be it.
My motto is "Exitus Acta Probat", that's why I like TiM, we have alot incommon.
Or maybe did you mean that I'm evil because I've chated on Ash?
Ash broke my Shepard's heart after Horizon, then Shepard noticed Miranda and he has his needs and he was also thankfull for a certain "upgrade".;)

I wonder what would be Jacob's reaction to my Shep's plans....  

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well i always play my Shepard as a pacifier...D..all races should get along...and i am going to ruin someone's day to achieve it....

Jacob seems pretty paragon to me..doubt he will like it

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KendallX23 wrote...

well i always play my Shepard as a pacifier...D..all races should get along...and i am going to ruin someone's day to achieve it....
Jacob seems pretty paragon to me..doubt he will like it

With someone do you mean my friend, TiM?

He's loyal and human, so I don't think he try to stop me, let me rephrase that he will better not try to stop me.

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TIM..The COuncil...turians in general..batarians...reapers..collectors...u name it..everyone who wants to disrupt peace....i promote peace between all races through violence...:D:D

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KendallX23 wrote...

TIM..The COuncil...turians in general..batarians...reapers..collectors...u name it..everyone who wants to disrupt peace....i promote peace between all races through violence...:D:D

I promoteHuman dominance in the Galaxy adn I also promote Jacob's alternate appereance, the Pink Terminus Armor of Doom (it has a FTL jetpack).

Too bad that Jacob is Paragon, but I have Miri for my Renegade plans and other "stuff";), with Jacob I will spill some drinks on the Citadel if Bioware allows it, if that happens then I'm going to have a Bro night with Jacob, Garrus and Wrex:wizard:

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I always thought Jacob was a good squadmate to have even as is. Always defended him whenever possible



He doesn't have an AR, but he is pretty deadly with the evi shotgun. Hell I even saw him shoot dead a vorcha clear across a chasm on Mordin's recruitment. No way I'd be able to do that with a shotgun. It would be nice to sup up Jacob, but no NPC should overshadow the main protagonist.



I think a lot of the Jacob bashing started started for 2 reasons.



1. A few people went on I hate Jacob rants and a lot of lemmings who were not decided on his character decided to jump in and go along with the bash.



2. Using Jacob effectively requires a little experience. Something you don't have on your first playthrough, and hence he was written off by many who didn't give him a second chance. Which is unfortunate, because with experience, on the usefulness scale for any class other than a soldier or vanguard he would be just below Miranda against non-geth,

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mosor wrote...

I always thought Jacob was a good squadmate to have even as is. Always defended him whenever possible

He doesn't have an AR, but he is pretty deadly with the evi shotgun. Hell I even saw him shoot dead a vorcha clear across a chasm on Mordin's recruitment. No way I'd be able to do that with a shotgun. It would be nice to sup up Jacob, but no NPC should overshadow the main protagonist.

I think a lot of the Jacob bashing started started for 2 reasons.

1. A few people went on I hate Jacob rants and a lot of lemmings who were not decided on his character decided to jump in and go along with the bash.

2. Using Jacob effectively requires a little experience. Something you don't have on your first playthrough, and hence he was written off by many who didn't give him a second chance. Which is unfortunate, because with experience, on the usefulness scale for any class other than a soldier or vanguard he would be just below Miranda against non-geth,


Soldiers basically don't need any squadmates, so it's not only Jacob that isn't useful (I'm talking about normal and easy difficulty)

The bashing started because people needed a new Kaidan and guess who's the most normal (that means boring to alot of people)  guy on the Normandy?

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gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

mosor wrote...

I always thought Jacob was a good squadmate to have even as is. Always defended him whenever possible

He doesn't have an AR, but he is pretty deadly with the evi shotgun. Hell I even saw him shoot dead a vorcha clear across a chasm on Mordin's recruitment. No way I'd be able to do that with a shotgun. It would be nice to sup up Jacob, but no NPC should overshadow the main protagonist.

I think a lot of the Jacob bashing started started for 2 reasons.

1. A few people went on I hate Jacob rants and a lot of lemmings who were not decided on his character decided to jump in and go along with the bash.

2. Using Jacob effectively requires a little experience. Something you don't have on your first playthrough, and hence he was written off by many who didn't give him a second chance. Which is unfortunate, because with experience, on the usefulness scale for any class other than a soldier or vanguard he would be just below Miranda against non-geth,


Soldiers basically don't need any squadmates, so it's not only Jacob that isn't useful (I'm talking about normal and easy difficulty)

The bashing started because people needed a new Kaidan and guess who's the most normal (that means boring to alot of people)  guy on the Normandy?


Never understoob why characters with daddy issues are deemed most interesting, Jacob is deemed most boring because he is the only one with a dialogue wheel who would rather keep his problems to himself than burden you with them.

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 I see it this way when it comes to people hating Jacob.

1.  He is with Cerberus (and is not Miranda, direct hate here)
2.  He is normal ( and does not need Shepard to solve his problems)
3.  Kaidan replacement ( Jacob is 10 times better than Kaidan)
4.  Because he is black ( it pains me to say it but I have read the posts in the anti Jacob thread)

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^ The problem with keeping his problems to himself is that you don't get to know him..When he stopped talking to me in the first 1/4 of the game I pretty much just moved on and forgot about him. Part of his unpopularity springs from his lack of development, over all lack of dialog in the game in general and his cheesy romance. Having not played Galaxy Jacob was just a new very flat character to me. Honestly it's the priiiiize that got me at all interested in him... and I've come to agree that he is an acceptable bromance/super Jacob...

I don't blame the character though, that's honestly not his fault... I think the Bioware messed a character that had some decent potential...

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Festi wrote...

^ The problem with keeping his problems to himself is that you don't get to know him..When he stopped talking to me in the first 1/4 of the game I pretty much just moved on and forgot about him. Part of his unpopularity springs from his lack of development, over all lack of dialog in the game in general and his cheesy romance. Having not played Galaxy Jacob was just a new very flat character to me. Honestly it's the priiiiize that got me at all interested in him... and I've come to agree that he is an acceptable bromance/super Jacob...
I don't blame the character though, that's honestly not his fault... I think the Bioware messed a character that had some decent potential...


Yeah you're right in many ways. He could have shared his eden prime experiences more. Especially when you bring him to key areas like Horizon and the derelict reaper.

I have to disagree with the romance though. What bugged me most was femshep's salivating and basically throwing herself at him more than Jacob.

As for Bioware's writing and character development. I hope I'm not the only one who thinks they took many steps down in this game when compared to Dragon Age and even ME1.

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Festi wrote...

^ The problem with keeping his problems to himself is that you don't get to know him..When he stopped talking to me in the first 1/4 of the game I pretty much just moved on and forgot about him. Part of his unpopularity springs from his lack of development, over all lack of dialog in the game in general and his cheesy romance. Having not played Galaxy Jacob was just a new very flat character to me. Honestly it's the priiiiize that got me at all interested in him... and I've come to agree that he is an acceptable bromance/super Jacob...
I don't blame the character though, that's honestly not his fault... I think the Bioware messed a character that had some decent potential...

Festi, the Priiize is the reason this thread exists, so it really helped Jacob:wizard:

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LuckyIronAxe wrote...

Admiral, I'm resigning my commission to the UPSC, I can stand by this thread no longer, it was fun while it lasted, but I can't fallow you in this venture anymore. In my heart, I will always be a red-blooded Jacob supporter, but the thread is just too off-topic for my tastes. Keep fighting the good fight here my friends, but my destiny is out there somewhere among the threads.

I'll continue my duties as leader of the Jacob Taylor Support Group, so if you need me, that's where I'll be.

My Ambassador badge Admiral, and my gun.


*Throws up salute*
It was a pleasure serving with you former ambassador

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The Priiize might have ended up saving Jacob in the end, but honestly, his romance--and more precisely, female Shepard's demeanor during it--is what turned quite a few people against the guy. Hatred by association. Didn't help that the most readily available video of that romance is the part where Jacob comes across as bad as female Shepard.

Then there was a comparison between Jacob and Grunt, with Grunt coming out on top of that battle. Things improved greatly when they released the Eviscerator, though.

And he's an average personality surrounded by broader than life characters. An average guy connected to Cerberus, and I would say Cerberus love is in the minority.

I've read a lot of people say Jacob starts out well, but then he just disappears as the game continues. It's a feeling I share myself, but I don't know exactly when he starts to fade into the background. Probably after the first couple of recruitments.

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Hopefully he will develop well into ME3, the guy needs it

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gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

KendallX23 wrote...

hmm...well he already is in ME2..at least in my opinion...the closest to him in ME2 was..yes u guessed it..Miranda....i want a 3 squadmates in ME3 so i can add Ashley and we will have the perfect setup

Miranda is the most useful squadmate for me, I'm a Soldier so Warp and Overload are perfect for me.

Pull is usefull to get them out of cover, but that's less usefull now since I've modded my game I have all Collector ship weapons and two bonus talents (Geth Shield Boost+Slam) I storm at my enemies with the Claymore, I activate Adrenaline Rush and blow their heads away, if they get my shields down I use shield boost. Very fun playstyle on easy (I know Vanguard class exists) :wizard:

I don't think Ashley would like to join me, I've cheated on her (with Miri) and I'm planning to visit TiM, smoke some cigars, drink some alcohol and plan how Humanity will take over the Galaxy, she won't like that


I love modding... I made a super adept that way.  Energy drain and warp ammo is the best.  You can restore shields and get +70-100% damage when enemies are affected by biotics.

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NICKjnp wrote...

I love modding... I made a super adept that way.  Energy drain and warp ammo is the best.  You can restore shields and get +70-100% damage when enemies are affected by biotics.


Whats it like using that charter on Insane NG+

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Jacob should get Overload, would make him able to go through anything...

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Some Dude wrote...

Jacob should get Overload, would make him able to go through anything...


What would you take away? His pull or his incendiary? Can't make overload a bonus skill and I personally find his other 2 skills really useful.

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mosor wrote...

Some Dude wrote...

Jacob should get Overload, would make him able to go through anything...


What would you take away? His pull or his incendiary? Can't make overload a bonus skill and I personally find his other 2 skills really useful.

I think they should just start over and give him his ME:G weapons and skill set. 

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Sand King wrote...

mosor wrote...

Some Dude wrote...

Jacob should get Overload, would make him able to go through anything...


What would you take away? His pull or his incendiary? Can't make overload a bonus skill and I personally find his other 2 skills really useful.

I think they should just start over and give him his ME:G weapons and skill set. 

I agree! Escpecially the Heavy Weapons!:wizard:

The 5th chapter should be finished in 15 min btw