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[OrlesianWardenCommander]

FieryDove wrote...

OrlesianWardenCommander wrote...

WOW too short? God how many times has this been mentioned!? 8-10hrs of gameplay is more then Bioshock/Gow3 if not on titan mode and many many other games why are you complaining about this!?

And how many times do people have to point out stupid game 1000 and stupid game 2000 is short and full games? If people are enjoying short games more power to them. I don't, I prefer my  RPG's meaty, always have. (expansion or not). imho

Buts its a expansion not a full game thats my point your expecting to much from DLC  its not another full blown game yet it has more replay value and gameplay time then most games do. I dont see why everyone complains about this. The only things i hated about the game are the DLC glitches, Framerate issues, and the suddent ending the expansion isn't perfect but the time length is deffiently not the problem. Awakening is not there to be a full blown secound RPG its expanding on the original game and adding more backround story to your charaters and events that will come into play later. Your lack of intellgence disturbs me enjoy it for what it is not for what it could of been.

[Dlokir]

Myself I got few glitches but not so many and all minor effect on gameplay but rather unpleasant for the few first hours of play. But that's the length which is definitely not right for me. For the price it's ok but should offer somehow more.

[fishx255]

OrlesianWardenCommander wrote...

FieryDove wrote...

OrlesianWardenCommander wrote...

WOW too short? God how many times has this been mentioned!? 8-10hrs of gameplay is more then Bioshock/Gow3 if not on titan mode and many many other games why are you complaining about this!?

And how many times do people have to point out stupid game 1000 and stupid game 2000 is short and full games? If people are enjoying short games more power to them. I don't, I prefer my  RPG's meaty, always have. (expansion or not). imho

Buts its a expansion not a full game thats my point your expecting to much from DLC  its not another full blown game yet it has more replay value and gameplay time then most games do. I dont see why everyone complains about this. The only things i hated about the game are the DLC glitches, Framerate issues, and the suddent ending the expansion isn't perfect but the time length is deffiently not the problem. Awakening is not there to be a full blown secound RPG its expanding on the original game and adding more backround story to your charaters and events that will come into play later. Your lack of intellgence disturbs me enjoy it for what it is not for what it could of been.

Its not even known if our character would transfer from origins to da2 let alone awakenings. You are compairing different genre games which probably have more action within that 8-10hours compaired to awakenings and much more challenge. Those other games don't require another game to be played and took much longer to develop.  People expect too much from dlc because the prices are outrageous for the amount of content they add (most of the time). Most people wouldn't be complaining if it was a 20$ dlc, which is probably what its worth for the rnd they put into it.

Modifié par fishx255, 26 avril 2010 - 07:17 .

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

What gets me is you guys act like 39.99 is like an arm and a leg maybe it should be 20bucks but it wont be for awhile if at all. Also im pretty sure that you'll be carrying on with your origins charaters if you so choose. Origins is the first game making another origins would be counterproductive. I dont see how the game is short or how its not worth the money. It would be completely be worth the money if they fixed the DLC glitches and frame rate issues. Im trying to say that the length is the least of the problems with this game i dont get why this is such a issue everyones expect DAO:2 from this when its just an expansion of the original game. Not an entire new one.

[fishx255]

OrlesianWardenCommander wrote...

What gets me is you guys act like 39.99 is like an arm and a leg maybe it should be 20bucks but it wont be for awhile if at all. Also im pretty sure that you'll be carrying on with your origins charaters if you so choose. Origins is the first game making another origins would be counterproductive. I dont see how the game is short or how its not worth the money. It would be completely be worth the money if they fixed the DLC glitches and frame rate issues. Im trying to say that the length is the least of the problems with this game i dont get why this is such a issue everyones expect DAO:2 from this when its just an expansion of the original game. Not an entire new one.

They amount of resources they used to develop awakenings doesn't seem to warrant a 40 dollar price tag. If its about them making more money of the graphics and engine they designed for origins and not about making a quality product for the fans of the game then so be it. 

[Popeandy]

wowpwnslol wrote...

Yes, yes. It has been brought up before and many people were not happy. The expansion should have cost $10-$15 and should have been made into a DLC.

Thank you.....and this explains my rage expressed towards Bioware. I have previously been a big fan of the company and the games they make. But after this I feel cheated, ripped off, lied to and let down in a major way.

The expansion took me around 5 hours of play time to do every single thing you can do and even go back many times over to talk to everyone again and again in hopes there was more to do....I honestly spent more time runecrafting than I spent playing the game.

The level of content was about 2 DLC's put together the DLC's are priced at what around $5? Knowing what I know now I find it unacceptable that they charge full price as if it this was a game on par with Dragon Age: Origins when its really a hastily made DLC.

This isn't even speaking of the bugs...

I also was very unsatisfied with the story, the characters, the combat, that it seems any/all of my decisions from Origins count for nothing, the ending was terrible.

Overall I would rate this a 5/10 and that is being nice. I really would return the game for my money back if I could....

[FieryDove]

OrlesianWardenCommander wrote...

 Awakening is not there to be a full blown secound RPG its expanding on the original game and adding more backround story to your charaters and events that will come into play later. Your lack of intellgence disturbs me enjoy it for what it is not for what it could of been.

Great, can't have a real discussion so insult people.

I have played many RPG's and many expansions were longer than 12-20hrs and some even added to the original as well as continuing or starting a new story. Those expansions lasted me a good 30-40 hours. I honestly don't care about the length that much. It's a Bioware game, I'm just tired of people bringing up shooter 1 and action rpg 2 as game-length comparisons.

[Pid Shuffle]

Artisian wrote...

Pid Shuffle wrote...

Unless you simply rushed through Fable 2's main quest - which kinda defeats the whole point of the game - you are being fallacious just for the sake of blindly defending an unpolished add-on.

Where did i mention polish? We're talking about game length here. I'm just stating that its an acceptable length for an expansion. ****.

The 'unpolished' part was just an aside, meaning the game's not even worth your attempt at defending it. The important part is: your comparison doesn't hold up.

[sassperella]

Popeandy wrote...

The expansion took me around 5 hours of play time to do every single thing you can do and even go back many times over to talk to everyone again and again in hopes there was more to do....I honestly spent more time runecrafting than I spent playing the game.
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5 hours for everything, and going back many times over to talk etc etc? If you finished the game in 5 hours you were not playing it properly and doing everything. People have said 5 hours gets you through the main plotline, but all those side quests as well and runecrafting? oh and extra time retalking to people?  If you want to criticise a product please have the decency to use accurate figures.

Yes it was pretty short, I clocked up 15 hours doing about half the side quests, and it takes me a bit longer as I explore everything. I saved some of the sidequests for a second playthrough.  People complaining here seemed to think that they should get a full game for the price of an expansion and they did because as has been said before a lot of games are way shorter than this.

When you're enjoying something like Dragon age, you're disappointed when it comes to an end, but this was an expansion and as such will never be a brand new game with the depth of the original because that's not what it is and it never claimed to be.

When comparing prices you're only looking at development time, but marketing and production is also a factor for the expansion you can't base the possible cost solely on game length compared to the original there are far more factors involved.

[Zy-El]

5 hours??? My first Awakenings play-through took me 25 hrs and I didn't do all the side quests because I did not know how to activate them. I suspect that I would have spent another 5 hrs doing the stuff I missed. I like to savour my games and not blindly rush through them like an ADD-afflicted game-junkie who has to kill something every 5 seconds. Diablo2 would be more your type of RPG.

[Poleaxe]

wowpwnslol wrote...

Poleaxe wrote...

Lots of people are getting 25 hours out of DAA. That's very reasonable for an expansion.

$40 was too expensive for my tastes.

Awakenings is not 25 hours. It's 15 at most. I am tired of people exaggerating on these forums because they either idle while the game is running or they are dumb and take 10 hours to solve the few puzzles the game has to offer.

Speaking of dumb, are you too dumb to contemplate different play styles? Many people have stated that their play time is in the 25 hour range. But really, I don't expect much from a wowpwnslol.

[Zy-El]

If it comes down to cost, $40 = 2 movie tickets, popcorn and drinks versus an RPG for 25 hrs x infinite playthroughs. Let's put it in perspective.

[Maedryc]

Zy-El wrote...

If it comes down to cost, $40 = 2 movie tickets, popcorn and drinks versus an RPG for 25 hrs x infinite playthroughs. Let's put it in perspective.

That's not the correct way to put it in perspective, though. For 40 bucks, you can buy pretty much any PnP rpg out there and have as many hours of fun as you wish. Or you can buy a soccer ball and use it for as long as you wish.
As you can see, it works both ways.
You can't compare different forms of entertainment on the basis of price/hour alone.

Modifié par Maedryc, 27 avril 2010 - 07:02 .

[Dam Wookie]

The spin off took me 8-12 hours without rushing and doing everything except rune crafting. That is short for an adventure game. There is nothing else to do to make it last 25 hours except for rune crafting, walking up and down the same areas that had already been walked up and down several times and talking to the same people whose conversation routines had been completely spent twice over. There is no exploring, the game has no exploration, there is nothing else to see. The second two ways to lengthen the game cannot be classed as game playing time as it is effectively re playing the game without finishing it. Neither can "taking your time" as the only other way to take time when everything has been clicked on and seen is to do nothing. Doing nothing cannot be classed as making the game longer.



The game takes less than 15 hours it is as simple as that. The quickest I can complete origins is 42 hours which involves skipping all the cut scenes. If the quickest I can play origins takes 4 times as long as the most slowest and most thorough exploration of awakening then awakening is short.

[Michael177]

It took me around 12 hours I think, i skipped a few side quests and skipped a few long dialogues for the side quests... cause i just wanted to see what happened haha...



And i wouldn't call it too short... especially for an expansion, most games now a days are like 8 hours max... and this is an expansion... so yeah

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

FieryDove wrote...

OrlesianWardenCommander wrote...

 Awakening is not there to be a full blown secound RPG its expanding on the original game and adding more backround story to your charaters and events that will come into play later. Your lack of intellgence disturbs me enjoy it for what it is not for what it could of been.

Great, can't have a real discussion so insult people.

I have played many RPG's and many expansions were longer than 12-20hrs and some even added to the original as well as continuing or starting a new story. Those expansions lasted me a good 30-40 hours. I honestly don't care about the length that much. It's a Bioware game, I'm just tired of people bringing up shooter 1 and action rpg 2 as game-length comparisons.

I  Apologize that i insulted and only did so cause of my temper. But what your saying  makes no sence to me. Not all Expansions are not required to have 20hrs of gameplay tell me how they could of made this longer? If you explain this maybe ill agree with you im just annoyed cause out of all the flaws in Awakening the length isn't a massive issue, I dont see how they could of made this any longer and name a few PC expansions that are 20hrs cause  im on the ps3 so 8-13hrs for 40bucks sounds reasonable to me. Also i dont see how everyone freaks out over 40bucks unless your a deadbeat homeless person on the street i duno why people freak out over 40bucks. 

      Also ill compare Awakening to other games cause there all video games and you can compare length to any game since its an expansion thats my point compared to other games this is a good length since its not even a full blown game . Im not a fanboy by any lengths i support they need DLC patches and bug fixes also framerate issues and now since 3.30 ps3 owners cant even play dragon age without it crashing. There are many more issues then the length that need to be addressed.

Modifié par OrlesianWardenCommander, 28 avril 2010 - 04:39 .

[Zy-El]

Maedryc wrote...

Zy-El wrote...

If it comes down to cost, $40 = 2 movie tickets, popcorn and drinks versus an RPG for 25 hrs x infinite playthroughs. Let's put it in perspective.

That's not the correct way to put it in perspective, though. For 40 bucks, you can buy pretty much any PnP rpg out there and have as many hours of fun as you wish. Or you can buy a soccer ball and use it for as long as you wish.
As you can see, it works both ways.
You can't compare different forms of entertainment on the basis of price/hour alone.

Ummm . . . yeah, I see your point.  I also realized a flaw in my own example.  A movie you can view with someone else whereas DA is a solitary form of entertainment.  I gotta get out more . . .

[Poleaxe]

Dam Wookie wrote...

The spin off took me 8-12 hours without rushing and doing everything except rune crafting. That is short for an adventure game. There is nothing else to do to make it last 25 hours except for rune crafting, walking up and down the same areas that had already been walked up and down several times and talking to the same people whose conversation routines had been completely spent twice over. There is no exploring, the game has no exploration, there is nothing else to see. The second two ways to lengthen the game cannot be classed as game playing time as it is effectively re playing the game without finishing it. Neither can "taking your time" as the only other way to take time when everything has been clicked on and seen is to do nothing. Doing nothing cannot be classed as making the game longer.

The game takes less than 15 hours it is as simple as that. The quickest I can complete origins is 42 hours which involves skipping all the cut scenes. If the quickest I can play origins takes 4 times as long as the most slowest and most thorough exploration of awakening then awakening is short.

Not sure what to tell you. It took me just under 25 hours and I don't idle. Didn't even look at rune crafting.

[sassperella]

It's possible to do origins in 12 hours (someone posted they'd done it in 11 with screenshots) time taken depends on playstyle. Awakenings is fine for an expansion (well in terms of length... bugs that's another matter entirely)

[BomimoDK]

you dudes need to chill out. i'm on my 18th hour. while i agree that the plot could have been fleshed out further, i think it's stupid as hell going on about 8-10 hours when other players tell tales of 20-30 hours. to then go on with the "OMG BLIND FANBOY" argument is arrogant as hell and i'm definetly uploarding a stat screenshot of my warden at the end of Awakening. the fact that you get 10 hours tells me that you speedrun which again tells me that the "i like my RPGs long and meaty" argument is bull**** since you're just going to walz through it skipping everything that can be skipped.

TL:DR: shut up, get a grip and play the game, stop lying and eat your vedgetables.

sassperella wrote...

It's possible to do origins in 12
hours (someone posted they'd done it in 11 with screenshots) time taken
depends on playstyle. Awakenings is fine for an expansion (well in terms
of length... bugs that's another matter entirely)

yeah, the speedrunner thing. if this guy was to complain about a too short game, i think even Bioware would tell him to get his head out his ass, if you skip, speed or cheese your way though everything in Speedi Gonzales mode, no one is going to feel sorry for you.

Good job by him though, that's quite an achievement.

wowpwnslol wrote...
Awakenings is not 25 hours. It's 15 at
most. I am tired of people exaggerating on these forums because they
either idle while the game is running or they are dumb and take 10 hours
to solve the few puzzles the game has to offer.

take this from the guy who hasn't got the game registered or any character statistics to prove it.<_< /sarcasm:?

Modifié par BomimoDK, 28 avril 2010 - 10:06 .

[Dalereth]

It took me 17 hours, which I thought was fine. I'd gripe about the bugs and its overall easiness before complaining about length. The concept, including length, was perfectly reasonable. It was the execution that was a bit sloppy.

Modifié par Dalereth, 28 avril 2010 - 03:34 .

[Patriciachr34]

I've found that Awakenings is much more satisfying when you finish an origins and immediately import to and play Awakenings. I did this with my CE. It felt like a chapter of her story was being added. It takes about 20 hours for me to complete the game, give or take depending on how much rune crafting I do.