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Can we really be sure ANY ME2 characters will return?


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Cerrydd wrote...

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How many of you would be pissed if ME 3 didn't allow you to import an ME 2 saved game with fewer than X number of squadmates recruited and alive?


You can't import a savegame when your Shepard died, so I guess you just need a minimum of 2 squadmembers alive to import.


I know what the current minimum is, but what if they said you couldn't import without a minimum of say 4 survivors, just so they didn't have to create throwaway NPCs to replace the fallen in the sequel. I'm wondering if people would be mad at this. I wouldn't mind at all. I'd rather have my favorite squadmates return if that was the cost.

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Tamyn wrote...
I know what the current minimum is, but what if they said you couldn't import without a minimum of say 4 survivors, just so they didn't have to create throwaway NPCs to replace the fallen in the sequel. I'm wondering if people would be mad at this. I wouldn't mind at all. I'd rather have my favorite squadmates return if that was the cost.

I don't know how requiring 4 survivors would avoid the problem of creating replacement NPCs...after all, those 4 could be Garrus, Mordin, Jacob, and Zaeed. Or they could be Kasumi, Morinth, Thane, and Grunt. Either way they would need to account for all of those possible deaths and survivals.

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I just mean having a good-sized roster of squadmates to choose from in ME 3. Naturally some players' selection pools would be larger than others. Then there'd be no need to create new NPCs for people who got almost their whole squad killed.  Those people just wouldn't be able to import that saved game.

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What exactly do you mean by NPCs? Squad mates?

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Tali will most likely be a squadmate, and if she is then Miri, Garrus, Jacob, Thane and Jack will also be recruitable.

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In any case, it is misleading talking about a synthetic creature with a hive mind.  Legion could die, but the true geth he represented are still around and his "personality" wouldn't be hugely different from a new representative mobile platform.    It wouldn't be "your" Legion, any more than Normandy SR2 is Normandy SR-1...but Joker still thought of the new ship as his "old" baby,  with some upgrades, and they were both called Normandy.

I suppose it really depends upon whether or not Legion reconnected with the true Geth network. If not, "his" personality would diverge more and more the longer "he" remains in "his" mobile platform achieving unique consensi that are separate from the greater Geth superconsciousness.

Not that I expect Bioware to follow up with that. :) I expect that Legion will, if "he" returns, will have the same personality regardless of whether or not "he" networks with the Geth superconsciousness or not.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Tali will most likely be a squadmate, and if she is then Miri, Garrus, Jacob, Thane and Jack will also be recruitable.

Umm... care to elaborate? You have a conclusion with no evidence to support it. =]

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RobertM5252 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Tali will most likely be a squadmate, and if she is then Miri, Garrus, Jacob, Thane and Jack will also be recruitable.

Umm... care to elaborate? You have a conclusion with no evidence to support it. =]


Kraidy means that those are all the love interests.  If just Tali comes back, then BioWare will have to weather a sh*tstorm of epic proportions from the fans of all the other romances.  Talimancers be mighty but they ain't THAT mighty.  So if one is coming back, all of them are. 

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I'd hate for only some love interests coming back but not all. It's not fair. Anyways, I think the love interests are the most likely to return. At the very least, if you romanced them. I know Jack for instance has zero other place to go if you romanced her. She's not going anywhere.

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RobertM5252 wrote...


BUT let's not forget how Liara, Ashley, Kaidan,
and Wrex were all sidelined for ME2. Four of the six ME1 characters! If
ME2 wasn't out, we could be having this discussion right now about how
we would never believe that Bioware would invalidate all our romance
options (something said in this thread!), about how our saves are even
being imported, and about how ME1 was sufficiently popular that they'd
have a budget plenty large enough to support bringing all those
characters back, especially the three who definitely lived. And yet...

So
given past experience, I don't think I'm off base in saying that there
is a good chance (no, not a guarantee) that few or none of the ME2
characters will be promenent in ME3. I'm not saying I like that
or that I think it's a good decision, only that it seems all too likely
given how ME2 went and given that all the characters now are in the same
position that Kaidan, Ashley, and Wrex were in from ME1 to ME2.

Very good points there, even if I wholeheartedly disagree/really hope that this isn't the case.[smilie]../../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

However, when you look at it from this point of view, you see that the ME1 squadmates that they sidelined just happened ([smilie]../../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]) to be the ones that had the most impact on the player.

       
         Kaidan
LI's=Liara    =IMPORTANT
        Ashley
                                  Kaidan
Potential of death=Wrex    =IMPORTANT
                                  Ashley

Tali and Garrus were the only ones that really wouldn't affect the player that much, and had almost no impact on the story, savefor the fact that you needed Tali's evidence to prove Saren's treacheryand that she is part of the race that created the mooks that you're fighting against.

Garrus, on the other hand was completely skippable; you could ignore his leads by following Wrex's path instead, and when he finally asks to join you, he is the only squadmate that you can flat out turn down in ME1.

I really hate to say it, but in ME1, Garrus and Tali were barely more than fillercharacters. (In fact, this may be part of the reason why they had such huge fanbases originally; they had rather crap roles in ME1, and playerswanted to see them get expanded.) And yet, look at ME2; they were the only ones that returned.

So, I would really bet that Ash/Kaidan, Wrex and Liara will be squadmates in ME3; they were the mostprominent squadmates in ME1, but were taken out of ME2 because Bioware is probably planning for them to affect the story of ME3 in huge ways. I'm pretty sure that most people will be overjoyed when the most prominent characters in ME1 return to help kick some Reaper ass. And vice versa; people will be thoroughly p*ssed at Bioware if the most
important characters were not only cut out of the middle act of the trilogy, (which is perfecly acceptable in my eyes) but were also cut out of the final act.

Now if we look at the ME2 squaddies in this way:

         Garrus
         Thane
         Jacob
LI's=Tali         =IMPORTANT
         Jack
         Miranda
         Samara

(I know that Samara's not a true LI, but you get pretty close, incinuating that there might be more to come in ME3.[smilie]../../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie])

Potential of death=Every. Single. One=IMPORTANT

Not only do all of the squadmates become important due to the fact that their death is a possibility, but 7 out of the 12 are LI's.

In order of importance:

Garrus/Tali=Squadmates in both games and returned/became LI's due to fanservice, so if they're not squadmates in ME3, it will make no sense and people will be p!ssed.

Thane/Jacob/Jack/Miranda/Samara=LI's. People will not want their LI to be cut out of their squad in the final act. (Well, maybe Jacob.:lol:)

Grunt/Mordin/Legion/Kasumi/Zaeed=Can die in the suicide mission. I'm thinking that there might be some kind of reward, should you manage to keep certain people alive. For example, in ME2, Mordin was your upgrade master. If he died in the suicide mission, then you actually might lose out on some upgrades.:blink:Or, if Legion dies, you might lose a key envoy with the Geth.

So, in conclusion, I'm turning your agument on it's head and saying this: I think that all of the ME2 squadmates will return because of how Ashley, Kaidan, Wrex and Liara were treated in ME1.;)

/epic wall of text

Modifié par ResidentNoob, 27 avril 2010 - 07:17 .


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I believe that we will get 2 from ME1 and 2 or 3 from ME2, most likely candinates from ME1 are Liara & Ash/Kaidan , kinda hard to explain why Kaidan/Ash would be the most likely candinates, I just have the feeling they will be, Liara becose as we heard in ME2 she was planning to get rid of the Shadow Broker and in ME1, Shadow Broker plays kinda big part of the story and its a big mystery who it is, so I suspect a scenario for Liara where everything goes to hell and she has no other choices to survive than jump to Shepards crew, later on game will propably finally find out who/what is the Shadow Broker and deal with it.



From ME2: Miranda, I recently played ME2 again and I TRIED to kill Miranda, she wasnt loyal and I put her to some role in every counter but she wouldnt just die, and if you talk with her after youve completed the game its obvius she doesnt want to work with Cerberus anymore.

Tali & Garrus: shouldnt need much explanation, they have been in the crew since ME1 and no reason really why they should leave now (unless they died) I might suspect that if one of them died we will get a replacement for them, (Kal'reegar perhaps?) + well I cant figure any Turian who would fit in, maybe some new char or its some small time NPC we saw in ME1 / 2) its all speculation however and I except to have leveled atleast 2 chars to max lvl in SWTOR before ME3 comes out...

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Peppard wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote.. 
I wasn't intentionally just aiming that comment at Master Smurf, just
that with him tying it with 'some form of shep' due to stating how shep dying should still come back in ME3. Not to mention others in the past where I've seen them go on about how even if you send
Legion to Cerberus or it dies you'll still see it in ME3. That would
just be silly imho.

Legion = that unit, a name given to him by
EDI

So to see Legion again in ME3 would mean that unit, not 'some form' as there is only one form.

If it got sent to Cerberus we should be getting some weapon
tech in ME3.
If it died on the suicide mission or wasn't activated,
it shouldn't return either because dead is dead.



Dead is Dead is kind of  a silly thing to chant as a rationale in  a Sci Fi series where the main character was brought back to life.


I'm just quoting the producer of the series, I guess you haven't read any of the interviews or seen them where he has said this. Here is one where he states "Dead is dead". One thing you forget about Shep coming back in ME2, that was at a huge cost by TIM. Everyone else had left him for dead. TIM whilst having a vast range of resources isn't going to bring Shep back again if he is dead at the end of ME2, especially not if he destroyed the base. Besides it would be kind of hard to get Shep's remains from the base whichever decision you made (specially if you chose to destroy it).

Peppard wrote...
In any case, it is misleading talking about a synthetic creature with a hive mind.  Legion could die, but the true geth he represented are still around and his "personality" wouldn't be hugely different from a new representative mobile platform.    It wouldn't be "your" Legion, any more than Normandy SR2 is Normandy SR-1...but Joker still thought of the new ship as his "old" baby,  with some upgrades, and they were both called Normandy.   

As for if Legion were never activated--we have no idea what Cerberus did.  We also  have no idea what the true Geth did when they didn't hear back from Legion.   Maybe they sent out another mobile platform based on the same design.   

While the new unit shouldn't act exactly the same as Legion, it could be so much alike that they can basically use the same model and dialog for both versions (something they did with Morinth and Samara, who are supposed to be two different characters....Morinth reuses Samara's VO in the last mission far as I could tell), and from a certain perspective be the same, even if not technically the same.


Regarding the first paragraph and the Normandy, I guess you aren't big on sentimental values, ok that your choice, but that is the obvious answer for Joker's opinion on the Normandy.

As for Geth sending out another mobile platform based on the same design, be interesting to see where they get a copy of Shep's damaged armor from.

Your comment about Samara and Morinth, am sorry but that is just laughable. Did you actually pay any attention in the game? The reason for Morinth having Samara's VO is because Morinth was acting as Samara. To quote Morinth just after she's killed Samara "It took years to perfect but when I was younger, posing as my mother drew its advantages. How do you think I originally escaped from Thessia." obviously in this instance rather than getting Natalia Cigliuti (Morinth's VO) to try doing an impression of Maggie Baird (Samara) it is easier to just use Maggie Baird's lines in the final mission. The only time Natalia Cigliuti is used is during the loyalty mission and when in the starboard observation deck alone with Shepard. Whenever Morinth is on a mission with Shep and another squadmate Maggie Baird is used as Morinth is acting as Samara.

You are missing my point entirely about Legion anyway. For anyone where it is dead or sent to Cerberus it is most likely that any chance of a new geth squadmate isn't going to be called Legion. That was a name given to that mobile platform by EDI when Shep was asking it what they call that particular platform. They aren't going to call every geth they encounter Legion are they.

Legion is most likely going to have the same treatment Wrex got anyway if it is dead/not recruited. That being if it died on the suicide mission it is dead. If you sent him to Cerberus (in Wrex case, didn't recruit him) it is dead.

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The developers have already said that dead equals dead. They said that Shepard being revived was a one time deal, and I'm thankful for that.

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Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

I'm just quoting the producer of the series,  


Yes, they said that about _Shepard_   . And good thing, because that means they realized it was kind of out there to kill him/her in the first place as an unavoidable part of the plot, and they needed to explain if Shep doesn't live on the suicide run, you won't be importing. 

As long as you aren't trying to say if a character could die, they are dead for everyone.  Dead for you shouldn't be dead for me.

Regarding the first paragraph and the Normandy, I guess you aren't big on sentimental values, ok that your choice, but that is the obvious answer for Joker's opinion on the Normandy. 

As for Geth sending out another mobile platform based on the same design, be interesting to see where they get a copy of Shep's damaged armor from.


I was using the Normandy as an analogy, to explain how we might similarly feel sentimental about a talking Geth, even if it was not the original talking geth that we met.     I wasn't questioning Joker's feelings at all, but was using them to explain how I would feel comfortable treating another mobile platform from the Geth almost like the original Legion.  But no, it would not BE the original Legion.  He would be dead if dead /inactive in your game.

Also, I already said that the hole and armor wouldn't be on Legion 2.0, and while they could reuse the same Voice Actor and a lot of the performance, they would need some extra dialog and character design for Legion 2.0 to distinguish that from  Legion 1.0 so it didn't seem like Legion was magically alive.   If for example, you never activated Legion, there would have to be an "encounter" scene where you basically do the whole conversation from ME2 "We are Geth but have never met".  

 I'm not sure also why you're hung up on the armor and the hole.  They did not make the mobile platform AFTER finding the armor, Legion was shot and used it as a Repair. It is not necessary to be there.



Your comment about Samara and Morinth, am sorry but that is just laughable.


You missed my point, but perhaps it wasn't too clear.   What I was getting at is that they can use one voice performance for more than two characters,  even when the characters aren't the same, as long as they have an explanation for why they sound similar/the same.  Yes, I understood why Morinth sounded like Sam, and you wasted a lot of time explaining that in so much detail, when that wasn't an issue.  The issue was, that it is possible to reuse dialog as a technical thing.

They can make another explanation, much less elaborate and more believable, about why Legion 2.0 would sound like Legion 1.0 (but only if you activated and he died.  If you never activated, you wouldn't have known what the first sounded like), because Geth were supposed to be many individuals speaking through one.)  It wouldn't take a lot of dialog to explain if it even needs to be explained.  


You are missing my point entirely about Legion anyway. For anyone where it is dead or sent to Cerberus it is most likely that any chance of a new geth squadmate isn't going to be called Legion. That was a name given to that mobile platform by EDI when Shep was asking it what they call that particular platform. They aren't going to call every geth they encounter Legion are they.


No, I'm not missing it,  I just disagree. If they sent the first one to Cerb, they never named the first one Legion.  Therefore, odds are, the name would  be suggested again for the same reason it was suggested the first time in the other timeline where you DID activate, because it is a fitting name.     If Legion died, then they would reuse the name out of sentimentality.     


Legion is most likely going to have the same treatment Wrex got anyway if it is dead/not recruited. That being if it died on the suicide mission it is dead. If you sent him to Cerberus (in Wrex case, didn't recruit him) it is dead.

 
Yes, that could be, and maybe we won't see Ash or Kaidan as squad.  But I've seen people suggest that,  because we know one of them is alive even if we don't know which for any particular player.  Using that logic, well a Legion/Legion 2.0 swap could work in much the same way.  It wouldn't even be as expensive for VO, since ash/kai take 2 actors...Legion would take 1. 
 

Now I'm not arguing that Legion is as likely as Liara, who could never die, or new characters with no history.  It was just a possible thing BW could do, not that they would do it.   IF Bw is motivated to let some players keep their me2 squad if those characters did not die, Legion would be easier to offer as one, with a "replacement" of sorts for those who killed the original Legion, with the replacement using minimal resources compared to replacing the rest of the potentially dead squad (b/c the rest are unique individuals...even Miranda who shares DNA with her sister).
 

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[list][*]Garrus Vakarian: Wants to do the most good possible without restriction. Will probably follow Shep and end up becoming a council Specter at end game.
[*]Grunt: Might work with Shepard, but has little motivation if things have calmed down.[*]Jack: Probably won't be around unless you romanced her. Not a likely party member.
[*]Jacob Taylor: Would rather work for you than Cerberus. [*]Kasumi Goto: DLC and will probably not return as party member.[*]Legion: Will almost certainly be in the next game. 50% chance of being a party member in order to learn more about humans and fight Reapers. Doesn't need to be physically with the other Geth to lead them; otherwise will get the Geth to join the war for survival.  [And the Council will not approve.]
[*]Miranda Lawson: Maybe. Suspect Daddy issues involve Ceberus and she will dump them when she finds out. Possibly becomes PR diplomat between Ceberus and the Alliance.
[*]Mordin Solus: Most likely will stick around due to Thane's issues and unresolved genophage issues. [*]Morinth: Probably not. Liara is more likely to return for 3.[*]Samara: Probably not. Liara is more likely to return for 3.[*]Tali'Zorah vas Neema: Doubtful. More likely she's getting the Quarian convinced to fight along side the Geth. She is a princess.
[*]Thane Krios: Almost certainly will stay. Quest will involve Mordin speeding development of cure for Thane's people.
[*]Zaeed Massani: DLC and will probably not return as party member.


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Lucky Thirteen wrote...

Look at it this way, Thane creates a time line. If he's only got a year to live, ME3 is probably going to take place within a year. I would think it would be really bad for the guys at Bioware to have spent all that time creating Thane, only for him to be dead in ME3.

Therefore, ME3 is probably going to take place immediately, at least a couple of months after ME2. It may be soon enough that no body has the chance to move off the Normandy before Shepard's onto the next mission. It would be easier if they have already set out the entire story for each of the characters in ME3 over the course of ME2, planning ahead, they just need to put the game together and get the actors in to finish some lines. I'm actually thinking creating a new cast will be more more work then using what they already have. That's essentially starting from scratch.


This is IMO where Mordin will come into play. His recruitment quest will likely involve him getting that cure that's already in development ready faster. Mordin still hasn't resolved his issues completely at end game and Thane got an awful lot of dialogue for someone to just be dismissed. Perhaps keeping the genophage data instead of destroying will allow Thane to survive in the 3rd game?

Samara is likely just a fill in character for Liara, who is busy making herself a better squadmate during 2. I think Liara will replace her in the third game.

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If BW decides that they can't handle everything at once then I [also] support the idea of splitting ME3 into various acts where you may not have your full roster at any one time. If you can pull this segmenting off in a way that we can "buy" it certainly COULD make things easier ....

EDIT:  To come through on the promise that choices matter maybe if [for example] a living Grunt was supposed to go help Wrex [or Wreave] then if he is dead in your playthrough then your allies are weakened or you have a much harder time with things ...???

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Peppard wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

I'm just quoting the producer of the series,  


Yes, they said that about _Shepard_   . And good thing, because that means they realized it was kind of out there to kill him/her in the first place as an unavoidable part of the plot, and they needed to explain if Shep doesn't live on the suicide run, you won't be importing. 

As long as you aren't trying to say if a character could die, they are dead for everyone.  Dead for you shouldn't be dead for me.


Correct, I wasn't saying they are dead for everyone, far from it. Just that if they are dead, then in that specific import, the player won't see them. Just like people who killed Wrex or didn't recruit him, don't see him in ME2.

Peppard wrote...


Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

Legion is most likely going to have the same treatment Wrex got anyway if it is dead/not recruited. That being if it died on the suicide mission it is dead. If you sent him to Cerberus (in Wrex case, didn't recruit him) it is dead.

 
Yes, that could be, and maybe we won't see Ash or Kaidan as squad.  But I've seen people suggest that,  because we know one of them is alive even if we don't know which for any particular player.  Using that logic, well a Legion/Legion 2.0 swap could work in much the same way.  It wouldn't even be as expensive for VO, since ash/kai take 2 actors...Legion would take 1. 
 

Now I'm not arguing that Legion is as likely as Liara, who could never die, or new characters with no history.  It was just a possible thing BW could do, not that they would do it.   IF Bw is motivated to let some players keep their me2 squad if those characters did not die, Legion would be easier to offer as one, with a "replacement" of sorts for those who killed the original Legion, with the replacement using minimal resources compared to replacing the rest of the potentially dead squad (b/c the rest are unique individuals...even Miranda who shares DNA with her sister).


To me it just seems stupid to offer up a 'new' Legion. Fair enough there is the whole fact of 'new' players getting the chance to have a Geth squadmate, but if Bioware truly wanted that, they could have it that Legion is one of the survivors of the suicide mission for default Shep. Although if they were to stick by the rulings they used for ME2 default Shep then Legion will end up at Cerberus (because ME2 Default Shep took neutral/renegade options in ME).

So it comes down to imports, if players went out of their way to sell Legion to Cerberus or got it killed, it is most likely they aren't going to be bothered about wanting to recruit a new Geth in ME3, are they not?

Don't get me wrong, I understand them using the same guy to voice a geth for interaction with Shep possibly to help solve the Quarian/Geth thing if Legion was sent to Cerberus or killed. I just think as far as potential squadmates go it is Legion or none. So basically what am saying is, if new players (or old ones) want a Geth as a potential squadmate they need to get ME3 and ensure Legion survives the suicide mission as a squadmate, just like new players who started with ME2 would have to for Wrex to appear in the game by buying ME and recruiting him and getting him to survive Virmire.

When you think about it, Legion to all intent and purposes is ME2s equivalent of Wrex. You don't need to recruit Legion and yet it could be instrumental in relations between Shep and the Geth.

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Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...
 

To me it just seems stupid to offer up a 'new' Legion.  


 Maybe it seems convoluted, but it would allow the developers  to spend resources on Legion  as a squadamate  for all the players who didn't kill the character, without leaving those who did kill him short a teammate.    Again, I agree they may be more likely to do the NPC thing, because that's what they've done in the past, and they do like to make new characters. 

If they did it though, they could guarantee a team for the default/ultimate renegade this way: Ash/Kaidan (soldier..yes, retcon of poor Kaidan), Liara (biotic), and Legion 2.0 (Tech).   3 characters, for 3 of the main classes.   They could still add 2 new characters, and as others have suggested, that gives every player a large enough minimum squad.

 Or, they could just make an entirely new squad, and that way they don't have to worry about ANY of the history and previous choices with Liara/Kaidan/Ashley....but a lot of fans wouldn't like that.  Wouldn't stop them, of course, but at least if they go down that road, they should realize it's despite fan demand, not because of fan demand (though to read some people, they do want an entirely new team and want all the previous characters in ME2 dead or good as, for all the interaction they want to see from them).

 

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It's all speculation but I'd like to see the ME2 squad plus liara & ash/kaidan.



Whatever the squad makeup is I can guarantee that they will use guns, biotics, and tech powers to help shep kill aliens.



*waits for dev confirmation*

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Please note - I was not stating that if Shep dies, he should come back - I think it was a rather poor decision to kill Shep and resurrect him/her for no reason (other than rest your character) and then hype that you could die on this suicide mission... then to later reveal oh well if you do then your story wont continue because canon Shep survives.

How the game is structured it is easy to have everyone survive so it really isnt an issue - what may have been better would be to let the suicide mission feel like one and not just a checklist to ensure survival.

- More timer events or triggers like the IFF, also the ability to skip some of the recruitments or squad members jumping ship if they arent "loyal" or disagree with your politics eg Samara going to battle Morinth, Jack trying to hijack the ship or leaving if you dont give her the files after an alloted time - these instances would be tied into that person's makeup - eg Jacob wouldnt leave to go find his father because he believes in the mission more.

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I think that Liara is there for sure and Ash and Kaidan - full dialogue, you will get the surviving member and for those who didnt play 1,2 it may be a choice like how they asked you about Anderson/Udina or they just pick like they did in 2.

I just have a feeling they will put Garrus in and maybe Tali too since her love has grown exponentially - I mean Garrus didnt have much dialogue at all as a male Shep so maybe there is a meeting on the Citadel or Omega where you can recruit them similar to the first game.

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Solution:



1) TIM won the galactic lottery and was able to Project Lazarus all of Shepard's Team.

2) Dead crew members return as husk. Now that would be funny.




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Rapamaha1 wrote...

From ME2: Miranda, I recently played ME2 again and I TRIED to kill Miranda, she wasnt loyal and I put her to some role in every counter but she wouldnt just die, and if you talk with her after youve completed the game its obvius she doesnt want to work with Cerberus anymore.


Her death is guranteed if you take her to the last fight.

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NYG1991 wrote...

It's all speculation but I'd like to see the ME2 squad plus liara & ash/kaidan.

Whatever the squad makeup is I can guarantee that they will use guns, biotics, and tech powers to help shep kill aliens.

*waits for dev confirmation*

I would love a dev to pop into this thead and say, "If you saved a squad member, they'll have a promenent, non-cameo role in ME3." Or anything, really. =]